Nitrous Discuss dry, wet, and direct port nitrous setups. How many shots can you handle?

Want to make the jump to the 100 shot

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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:08 PM
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Want to make the jump to the 100 shot

I know im going to need colder step spark plugs, guages, and fuel pump.


Does anyone know if this setup is safe to also run on the street on 93 octain gas, or is this type of shot only for the track and on race gas?


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Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:24 PM
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What kit are you running?
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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The Nitrous Express wet kit
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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Sorry I was going to respond but I think you should direct your question directly to Maximus101, he has superior knowledge and experience in nitrous and I don't want to influence anyone in the wrong direction.
Old Mar 31, 2004 | 05:49 PM
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ok but can i get your advie also?
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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It never hurts to use a higher grade octane & helps to prevent detonation. Detonation is a killer, and is probably the #1 cause of engine failure when using Nitrous Oxide. You can always go to your local paint store & purchase a gallon of (TOULENE) to increase octain levels. It is a hell of alot cheaper then buying octain booster. I have included a website where you & anyone who want's increase there knowledge of fuel can go to visit & learn what ratio's of toulene to mix for specific octain rating's. As far as Jimes response to you, to ask me. Maybe you should ask him since he's only person I know of that is brave enough to risk engine damage by not doing any internal engine upgrades. I personally know better then to risk using that big of a shot on stock engine internal's. Note it can be done, but for how long is anyones guess?

http://www.team.net/sol/tech/octane_b.html
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Maximus do u think 100 is to big of a shot with out upgrading internals?
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 06:20 PM
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It is deffinitly not the safest thing to do. I wouldn't want an extra 100hp being placed on my engine all at once. I would only attempt that on stock internal's if I had some way to make the shot come on smooth & finish stronge. Like how a progressive nitrous controller would do? Otherwise you run the risk of damage. Go and figure out how much it would cost to replace or rebuild your engine then tell me if it's worth the risk??? Especially for a daily driver & not a dedicated drag strip vehicle. Could you afford to be without a running vehicle. How would you get to where you need to be?
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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I can get a new motor for 300 bucks and drop it in my self...i have a bike as a 2nd ride, but do you think a superC and a small shot of nitrous would be safer cuz that would be a faster maxima correct?
Old Apr 1, 2004 | 06:26 PM
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if you take 100hp & divide it by the amount of cylinders 6, it only turns out to be an additional 16.6hp per cylinder. Doesn't sound like a whole lot, but what is the cylinder pressure @ TDC how much is your compression increased? How do you adjust your computer controlled ignition timing without ECU mod or some kind of ignition timing controller? Tell me if you think thats safe to do, when you have limited tunning ability.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Maximus101
Maybe you should ask him since he's only person I know of that is brave enough to risk engine damage by not doing any internal engine upgrades.
only person?
there are at least 100-200 people on this boad running at least 100 hp over stock #s
I know about 5 personally.
Old Apr 2, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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Yeah I was about to say i remember all those videos of Thomas when he was on nitrous and he was running like a 130 shot
Old Apr 3, 2004 | 02:24 PM
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Note the part where I mentioned "The only person I know of that is brave enough"........
Old Apr 12, 2004 | 02:58 PM
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lol Im still a nitrous newb and I want to get to a 100 shot. But before I do that Im going to upgrade my flywheel, clutch, fuel pump, injectors, spark plug, get guages. THat's just my 2 n00b cents. Good luck!
Old Apr 14, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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I wonder with upgraded fuel pump, fpr, and plugs if we can push the limits safly like thomas did with a 130 shot
Old May 18, 2004 | 09:15 PM
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I don't see why not.... 130 shot is not as big as people make it sound. Granted.. its approx 22HP per cyl, but if its displaced properly (direct port/fogger), you don't have to worry as much about it, because the first cyl that draws isn't going to be taking that entire hit

Thats the main problem with running a big hit like that in a single nozzle. You throw all that fuel and nitrous into the intake plenum, and when the first cyl draws, its drawing most of that into it. Granted it 'should' evenly distrubte and be properly atomized, but it never is =)

So.... if you do want to run that kinda shot... I'd recommend running some type of direct port setup.

Just my .02
Old May 20, 2004 | 05:48 AM
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Kwl, thanks for the input baughb
Old May 20, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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NP! Just trying to get the people on the forum to realize nitrous doesn't harm motors =)
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