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Old Jul 25, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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Question on Nitrous activation...

Ok I've been reading many of the old threads but haven't been able to find an answer to my question.

My questions is regarding having both a window switch and a wot switch working together. From what I have read, as long as ur at WOT and at the designated rpm, it will spray. Now is that for every gear ur in? I.E. let say your in 4th and about 3500rpm (at the rate u'll be doing 105-110ish mph) and both of these conditions are met (wot and within the 3k-6k rpm). will the system still spray? I guessing that it would but I like to confirm.
Also with this senario, it is even safe to spray at that speed? The reason i ask is because where I live, many like to do highway runs or top speed runs so we're able to get to 120-130ish, so just in case that happens to me I would like to know if I was spraying when it is not safe anymore to spray. Would I need to disarm the system when I am at the speed?

Another thing that I am confused about is when one say they are doing a 50 shot, its that 50 shot over a period of time? Can someone define what actually is a 50 shot? Let say i am spraying in 2nd from 3k-6k and then respraying in 3rd. would that be a 50 shot in 2nd and part of a 50s shot in 3rd? sorry for asking such a dumb question but I'm still new to this...
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by jcy98maxse
Ok I've been reading many of the old threads but haven't been able to find an answer to my question.

My questions is regarding having both a window switch and a wot switch working together. From what I have read, as long as ur at WOT and at the designated rpm, it will spray. Now is that for every gear ur in? I.E. let say your in 4th and about 3500rpm (at the rate u'll be doing 105-110ish mph) and both of these conditions are met (wot and within the 3k-6k rpm). will the system still spray? I guessing that it would but I like to confirm.
Also with this senario, it is even safe to spray at that speed? The reason i ask is because where I live, many like to do highway runs or top speed runs so we're able to get to 120-130ish, so just in case that happens to me I would like to know if I was spraying when it is not safe anymore to spray. Would I need to disarm the system when I am at the speed?
Yes its for every gear as long as those conditons are met, ie rpm and wot. It is also safe, (for the engine) to spray at that speed.

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Another thing that I am confused about is when one say they are doing a 50 shot, its that 50 shot over a period of time? Can someone define what actually is a 50 shot? Let say i am spraying in 2nd from 3k-6k and then respraying in 3rd. would that be a 50 shot in 2nd and part of a 50s shot in 3rd? sorry for asking such a dumb question but I'm still new to this...
A 50 shot just means that x amount of nitrous and fuel is being injected into the intake that will produce 50 HP. The amount injected is constant regardless of RPM or gear, no sophistication here its just a plain dumb system. How much x is depends on what system you are using and whether they rate it at the crank or wheels.
We should correctly say "50 HP shot" but like everything else in our language the import stuff gets overlooked.

You also have to realize that with the same amount being injected at 3k and 6k it is only putting in 1/2 the amount of nitrous and fuel per revolution at 6k that it is at 3k so the HP increase is still 50 but its putting much less extra pressure on each cylinder at 6k.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 05:32 AM
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could also get a progressive controller to fine tune n20 delivery over a given rpm range. The Maximizer unit by nx lets you define what % of full hp shot you want over an rpm range per gear.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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But that dam Maximizer cost as much as a nitrous kit.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 06:40 AM
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yeah I know, costs more in fact. Still sounds pretty sweet, and makes a nitrous application perform much like a turbo/sc from my limited understanding.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 07:58 AM
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I have the Maximizer and it costs more than a nitrous kit.

Its a great unit I will do a write up one of these days. Pretty easy to hook up and eliminates the wot switch with a tps and has window switch integrated as well. Great for traction problems and keeps the breakage down by ramping up the power.

Nice to have the pc and palm hookup as well nothing to buy and software is virtually identical for both.

I just put in one set of jets and have multiple configs for whatever shot I want to run.

If you want to download the software and view it go to www.fjoracing.com which is the company that produces it for NX. Its located in Canada btw. Its exactly the same software that comes on the cd with the kit.

It also has an ignition retard and transmission brake connections which I don't use. However I do use the wideband input.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 08:55 AM
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Jim have you had many runs yet with the Maximizer? Did you get your 12.19 time with it? Was wondering how many tenths you think you'd save by metering the nitrous and maxmimizing traction?
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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I haven't gotten as good a time with the Maximizer yet as I did with the 2 stage. But it takes time to get it set properly. Not sure I can really go faster but sure a lot easier on the drivetrain.

I was at a race on Sat but only go 3 runs including eliminations so no chance to really get it sorted out. It was a night race and the track had to close at midnight because of the noise bylaws so the race will be completed at the beginning of next race day next month. I am sitll in the running though.

There is another sport compact race this sun at another track so I hope to get a few runs in there and get a little better time. I am only running a 100 shot until I get the program perfected. Too many options for a simple guy like me.

So to answer your question I have had 1 run at the track with the Maximizer the 1st 2 runs were N/A to make sure my new slicks were hooking up and all else was ok.
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:01 AM
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Sounds promising Jim. Gotta think the maximizer will at least help with your 60'.

I ordered my nx kit from diabloperformance in alberta last week, along with the maximizer, fpss and bottle heater. Hopefully the Safeguard gets here around the same time - gonna have a lot of wiring to do. Does the maximizer wire into the ecu, or just the nitrous setup?
Old Jul 26, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Don't think it will help the 60' much I used to run a 150 right out of the hole with no traction problems so don't think the Maximizer could help with that. However with the 2k2 I can only run a 50 out of the bucket so it may help but I don't think so, 60' is such a short distance and time its almost impossible to do much manipulation with ramping. My biggest problem is after the 1-2 shift when I lose traction, that should be better, however if I don't spray between shifts I will certainly lose time that will have to be made up elsewhere. Going to be interesting.

You have to connect the TPS and Tach leads to the ECU. I really like the solenoid drivers vs using the relays. I actually mounted it under the hood to keep it away from any electronics, the pulsing voltage can really screw up sensitive stuff. The leads are long enough that you can leave the main maximizer box in the car and mount the solenoid driver elsewhere.

It only took an hour or so to wire the Maximizer but I already had the nitrous installed.
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