Nitrous Discuss dry, wet, and direct port nitrous setups. How many shots can you handle?

nitrous setup

Old Aug 17, 2004 | 11:31 PM
  #1  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
nitrous setup

Im planning to get a 50 shot NX wet kit (20923). Hiding the lines and soleniods seems like it would be easy but where can the 10lb bottle go? Im not really sure how big it is but can it fit in the spare tire well? Also, Im going to be getting a remote bottle opener but is there any brand I should go with? I dont have a lot of money so is it neccessary for the bottle heater, I plan to buy one later when I have extra money.
Old Aug 18, 2004 | 08:56 PM
  #2  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I want to hide the nitrous setup up so does anyone know if the 10lb bottle will fit in the spare tire well? Also, is there anywhere to put the shark nozzle in the stock intake?
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:24 PM
  #3  
maxima98vspec's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,244
Originally Posted by JeEvE
I want to hide the nitrous setup up so does anyone know if the 10lb bottle will fit in the spare tire well? Also, is there anywhere to put the shark nozzle in the stock intake?

well u could lay the bottle in the spare tire well, but then u would have to lay it down, so that wouldn't work well.....unless u get 2 smaller bottles and routh them into one line.....
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 12:36 PM
  #4  
Bluebird's Avatar
I am Roid Rage
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 1,146
Put it in a subwoofer box, you sneaky bish.

You're going to want a heater. Might as well just do it now, especially with fall right around the corner.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 02:46 PM
  #5  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Right now I have no extra money at all, so I will just have the nitrous kit. Dont have money for the bottle heater or a remote bottle opener right now so that has to wait. There is no way to bolt the bottle in the spare tire well without just laying it in there? Is it just a height problem because I can just make a raised floor for the trunk with some wood.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 03:39 PM
  #6  
bruteMax's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 408
In your planning, did you do any research? Do you know why the nitrous bottle should not lie flat? The NX wet kit install instructions are available on their website.

not having $$ for a bottle heater makes getting a nitrous kit rather senseless unless your trunk stays damn hot, especially with colder months around the corner.

if stealth is such a concern to you that you'd actually consider building a raised floor to hide your bottle, then sure mount your bottle in the spare tire well.

Why not complete your raised trunk bed assembly first and in that time you'll have enough saved for a kit, heater and fpss.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 05:59 PM
  #7  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I already ordered the kit and was planning to get a bottle opener and heater but other things came up so I can get the bottle opener and heater. I wasnt planning on putting the bottle flat in the spare tire well, I just wanted to know if it would fit in there bolted down with the mounts that come in the kit. Should I not even bother using it without the bottle heater? I was just going to install it and just experiment with a 35 shot until I get a bottle heater and I am more familiar with spray. Is the bottle just not going to have enough pressure without the heater?
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 07:31 PM
  #8  
ajsince81's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 123
I havent measured the spare tire well, but I say that there is no way the bottle will fit in the spare tire well. My year come with a donut tire i would guess your is the same. Those tire arent more than 4"-5" thick. My bottle is about 10"off the floor. I just got my remote opener last week and its pretty big so i doubt that will fit either. So I doubt you can make it fit. A bottle heater is much more inportant than a remote opener. in order for your nitrous to work correctly, the temp. has to be about 93 or you wont get the right HP.
Bluebird had a good idea, put the bottle against the back seat( I hope your back seat folds) and build a sub box in front of it.
Old Aug 19, 2004 | 08:20 PM
  #9  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Ill try to get some money together for the bottle heater and worry about the opener and other things later. Is there any brand I should go with for the bottle heater and the opener? Theres some bottle heaters on ebay for about $50 but they seem to have no brand, should I just stay away from those?
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:10 AM
  #10  
hlh0501's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,371
This is angled, in my tire well
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:12 PM
  #11  
ajsince81's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 123
I would use a name brand like NX because it works off your bottle pressure and turns itself off at 1050psi so you dont have to worry about your pressure being high. My friend has a cheaper bottle heater that is not automatic, which would work fine if you had a remote pressure gauge($250-$350) so you can turn it off at the right psi, but that more money than i can spend right now. On top of that my heats my bottle to the correct psi in about 6-8mins. his takes a lot longer to reach the correct psi i seen him drive around for about an hour and hes still in the yellow. Hope that helps you.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 04:24 PM
  #12  
ajsince81's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 123
Originally Posted by hlh0501
This is angled, in my tire well
Nice install! I dont know if you were planning on it but i would be worried about using a bottle heater on your setup( if you use your bottle often). NX says that there heater can reach up to 400 degrees which might cause your carpet to melt or possible a fire.
Old Aug 20, 2004 | 06:40 PM
  #13  
hlh0501's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 2,371
Originally Posted by ajsince81
Nice install! I dont know if you were planning on it but i would be worried about using a bottle heater on your setup( if you use your bottle often). NX says that there heater can reach up to 400 degrees which might cause your carpet to melt or possible a fire.
Thanks for the heads up... I actually use a heater now (hard to have nitrous without one!), but my trunk no longer has carpet - so no fear of fire
Old Aug 21, 2004 | 08:01 PM
  #14  
koldsimer's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 171
Install the bottle with the valve right next to the pass thru door. It's so nice to just be able to reach back and open/close your bottle. You can easily hide the bottle with the gym bag trick. And watch the bottle heater from nx. It works perfect as long as you don't forget to open the bottle just so you can warm it up a bit quicker.
Old Aug 22, 2004 | 12:19 PM
  #15  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Anyone have nitrous with the stock intake? Theres not much space to put the nozzle anywhere except between the midpipe/resonator and the TB but that might be too close to the TB.
Old Aug 25, 2004 | 10:39 PM
  #16  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
anyone....?
Old Sep 1, 2004 | 03:44 PM
  #17  
CBass69187's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 776
N2o

Nitrous will work with the stock intake. Run the line from the firewall to the back part of the intake and plumb it in there. Cover the braided line with some of that plastic wire covering and you should be good to go.
Old Sep 12, 2004 | 12:19 PM
  #18  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I am going to start installing my NX kit and Im going to have a few questions. Im going to be running the feed line from the trunk. Where do you guys run the line under the car. I was going to just zip tie them up to the four black lines running along the drivers side, are those the fuel lines?
Old Sep 12, 2004 | 12:42 PM
  #19  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I put the bottle in my spare tire well and it seems like it fits okay, the angle is not as great as hlh0501, did you but the other bracket on the raised center part of the wheel well?
Old Sep 15, 2004 | 07:49 PM
  #20  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I ran the line from the trunk to the engine bay. I went to Home Depot to find pieces for the fuel tee but they didnt have everything. I didnt find a place to mount the selonoids yet, anyone know a good place to put them so they are hidden? I have to drop my trans still to change out my leaking rear main seal so ill just take my time with the install until i get the seal fixed. Im a little confused on how the kit sprays, do I just flip the activation switch and when I got WOT, the WOT switch causes it to spray?
Old Sep 16, 2004 | 09:13 AM
  #21  
CBass69187's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 776
You can find parts for the fuel tee at most automotive or performance shops. You can mount the solenoids quite a few places but since you still have your factory intake, there is a lot of room underneath that where you could mount them. Just be creative. When the kit is armed (and the bottle is open) it will spray when you are WOT.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 03:01 PM
  #22  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I just went ahead and got a CAI, so the stock airbox is gone. I got a 1/8" tee, 1/8" nipple from Home Depot and now all I need is two 5/16" barb to 1/8". I went to a few places and they didnt have them, I found a 5/16" tee but it wont screw into the SS fuel line that came in the kit. Ill check out some performance shops and see if I can find anything. Im guessing that if I bounce off the limiter in 1st while spraying can cause damage to the engine, only time that ever happened was with a bad launch and I never got traction.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:19 PM
  #23  
CBass69187's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 776
You will probably need a NPT-AN union. A shop should be able to get you the part or you can try Jegs, Summitt, etc. It is really really not a good idea to bounce off the rev limiter while spraying. If you need to, get a window switch but you can destroy an engine real quick when hitting the rev limiter while spraying.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:02 PM
  #24  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Is it okay if I am already at WOT and flip the activation switch? From looking at the wiring diagram, it looks like it doesnt matter because the WOT switch just closes the connection to the relay.
Old Sep 22, 2004 | 08:20 PM
  #25  
CBass69187's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 776
Originally Posted by JeEvE
Is it okay if I am already at WOT and flip the activation switch? From looking at the wiring diagram, it looks like it doesnt matter because the WOT switch just closes the connection to the relay.

I am not 100% sure about that. Maybe Jime would know.

Did you find the parts for your fuel tee?
Old Sep 23, 2004 | 03:42 AM
  #26  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I was able to find the 5/16" barb to 1/8" at Pepboys so I have the tee together. This weekend im going to pull the tranny to change my rear main seal and I will also try to finish installing the kit. Anyone know where I can run lines from the engine bay into the interior? I searched and a few said theres a way from the driver's side wheel well.
Old Sep 28, 2004 | 11:17 AM
  #27  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I got most of the install done, all I have left to do is mount the bottle and hook up the activation switch. Where did you guys hook up the ignition for the swtich? I know that if I get a test pipe to replace the stock cat will give me nothing N/A but will it give me better gains while spraying?
Old Sep 29, 2004 | 01:37 PM
  #28  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Where do you wire the power for the switch? I was thinking about splicing into the cigarette lighter, is that okay?
Old Sep 30, 2004 | 02:59 PM
  #29  
russianyuri's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 18
coming from a crooked houston street-racer I would recommend that you trade the 10LB bottle for a 5LB and put it up under the dash right behind the glove-box compartment... run the line behind the radio and tap it into the engine bay through the fire-wall somewhere next to a bunch of wires so that it looks like it belongs there... oh yeah, dont' forget to wrap the entire main feed line in black electrical tape, that way when somebody looks under the car or into the engine bay it won't reflect any light and it will look like a bundle of wires. If you have a bunch of free time and want more details on hiding the solenoids so you can't hear them opening when you spray send me an e-mail and we'll talk

muska0044@yahoo.com
Old Oct 7, 2004 | 08:41 AM
  #30  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Can anyone tell me where I should power the switch from? I dont want to end up burning the cigarette lighter out.
Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:19 PM
  #31  
maxima98vspec's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,244
my bottle fits in my well preaty good..i donno what kind of troubles u guys are having..........just bang the well out to make it fit.


also i got a brand new main line NX kit (basic) for sale for 350 lemme know if ur interested
Old Oct 7, 2004 | 07:41 PM
  #32  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Do you have any pics of it in there? Area you able to put the cardboard and mat over it?
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 09:39 AM
  #33  
maxima98vspec's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 1,244
Originally Posted by JeEvE
Do you have any pics of it in there? Area you able to put the cardboard and mat over it?

i don't yet...i've bin busy, but i will post up as soon as i get time...cause im acutaly taking it out of the well since i do want my spare with me

and i do have the mat and the cardboard on it
Old Oct 8, 2004 | 12:40 PM
  #34  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Alright, thanks. Do you have the nozzle facing the side of the car and the bottle is closest to the front? That is the only place where the well is the deepest. Also, can you tell me where you are getting the pwr from the switch from?
Old Oct 14, 2004 | 05:08 PM
  #35  
ajsince81's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 123
My switches get the power from the cig. lighter, however my switches only send a signal to the relays (one relay for nitrous and one for bottle heater) which are under my hood. Thoughs relays are connected to the battery. I like how my setup is, because the key has to be turned on for anything to work.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 05:24 PM
  #36  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I made my fuel tee getting the pieces from Lowes. The 1/8" nipple that I bought is not barbed like the NX fuel tee. The nipple connects to the fuel tee and the SS fuel line that comes in the kit. Here is a pic of the the NX fuel tee and the 1/8" nipple. Mine seems to be leaking from where the tee connects to the SS fuel line. Does the nipple need to be barbed to be sealed correctly or can I just use some teflon paste on there.
Old Oct 16, 2004 | 09:19 PM
  #37  
Jime's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,919
From: https://t.me/pump_upp
Originally Posted by JeEvE
I made my fuel tee getting the pieces from Lowes. The 1/8" nipple that I bought is not barbed like the NX fuel tee. The nipple connects to the fuel tee and the SS fuel line that comes in the kit. Here is a pic of the the NX fuel tee and the 1/8" nipple. Mine seems to be leaking from where the tee connects to the SS fuel line. Does the nipple need to be barbed to be sealed correctly or can I just use some teflon paste on there.
You need to go back to Lowes and get the following, do not use the connector that came with the kit.

Old Oct 16, 2004 | 10:37 PM
  #38  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
I have all those pieces, the 1/8" tee and the two 1/8" x 5/16" hose barb but i was unsure about the 1/8" x 1/8" nipple. Is the one in the pic I have okay? It was leaking where the SS fuel line connects but I didnt not use any teflon paste so that just might be it.
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 03:58 AM
  #39  
Jime's Avatar
Banned
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 4,919
From: https://t.me/pump_upp
Originally Posted by JeEvE
I have all those pieces, the 1/8" tee and the two 1/8" x 5/16" hose barb but i was unsure about the 1/8" x 1/8" nipple. Is the one in the pic I have okay? It was leaking where the SS fuel line connects but I didnt not use any teflon paste so that just might be it.
You can't just connect the fuel line to the 1/8" nipple there should be another fitting that screws onto the 1/8" nipple that has a bevelled fitting on the other end for the an4 fuel line to connect to. The fitting has to have that bevelled end because thats where the an4 fittings seal, they don't seal at the threads, the threads just force the two bevelled end together to make the seal.

Don't use any teflon on the an4 fittings just the 1/8" pipe fittings.
Old Oct 17, 2004 | 01:12 PM
  #40  
JeEvE's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,673
Thanks Jime for your help. A was able to find a speed shop that was open and they had a 1/8" to an4 nipple so I didnt need the 1/8" nipple. I have another question. I know its not good to leave the bottle open because the pressure on the solenoid for a long time is not good. When I close the bottle, there is still going to be pressure in the lines and on the solenoid, should I just leave it or does it need to be released.

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:57 PM.