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Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:35 PM
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16 year old + nitrous =?

Alright big q for the vets. I'm a smart kid with a lot of common sense, and id like to buy nitrous for my car , i like to drive fast, and probably in the near future want to start racing at the local dragway. Nitrous seems to be my first logical mod. However, im having a hard time convincing my parents to let me do it, but before i go gung ho on this idea id like to know YOUR (basically experts') opinions about whether i should get it. all input appreciated !
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 03:57 PM
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amateurs dont use nitrous oxide BRIAN.

If you're just starting off racing at a track, I wouldn't recommend getting N20. go smaller first, baby steps.
nitrous isn't a toy, if you use it to much you will blow your motor.
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:12 PM
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If your interests really are drag racing, I'd probably wait to go the juice route. Get better at racing before spraying. Also, you should do as many bolt on mods before spraying, I made the mistake of putting the juice on before the car was complete in terms of bolt ons. Now I have spent more money on a dyno trying to make sure I am tuned and running safe. Also I'd suggest getting more than a basic Nitrous kit when it comes time to buy. Make sure you get appropriate safety equipment.
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:15 PM
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alrighty thanks...rofl to the FnF ref.... youll blow yourself to pieces... but anyway, yeah we got a celica w/ a zex wet kit as a trade in at work today (i work @ Lexus/Toyota dealership) and took it for a good ride (i.e. a ride w/ spray) and it basically got me addicted. what WORTHWHILE mods would you recommend? and not like a catback because well, its just a catback unless i go full 2.5... but anyway yeah, let me know
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 04:35 PM
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if u want proven power, go with a y pipe, UDP, place raicing CAI, and a catback. after those mods, u only have headers, t/c, s/c, and n2o left as options, or the big bad 3.5 swap.

I'd recommend a y pipe, udp, and CAI. u will like the results!
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:35 PM
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3.5 swap sounds like an awesome idea right now. my dad has an 05 max and that thing is a beast. i spent some time imagining what that engine would be like in my smaller and im guessing much lighter car.... but yeah im sticking to the 30 for now. i was looking at that $440 NX(nopi) wet kit thats stickied. would that be a good kit when i get my car up to par? thanks for the info btw
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 05:40 PM
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i was looking at that $440 NX(nopi) wet kit thats stickied. would that be a good kit when i get my car up to par? thanks for the info btw
That kit will do fine, the NX solenoids are top notch. Nobody here has had problems with ZEX, but after seeing what their solenoids look like inside those "brain" boxes, I am glad I have the NX.
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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alright so nitrous if any is a low shot for now 35 probably, but the BIG dilemma now is how to get it. i can obviously pay for it, but that would void my dad warranty, i.e. i pay insurance now. so drop 1200 a year to race my car, or save for 4 more years and get an IS300 when i graduate.... damn maxima loyalty being tested.. talk me back into the max
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Nice to see another performance-oriented 16-year-old on the site

My advice: KEEP THE MAX. You'll be hard pressed to find something better. It will last you just fine, no need to worry about getting an IS300 in a couple years. Save that for later.

The nitrous? I'm considering it myself. Not right now, since I have no job and I'm attempting to make car payments so I have no extra to spend at the moment. Just follow what these guys say about preparing your car first, make sure it's in good running order, and make sure to take the proper precautions even though it's going to cost you a little extra money.

Be safe, and happy modding
Old Jul 11, 2005 | 06:46 PM
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Just a note, you won't stay with the 35 shot. That is what I said. I had the 35 jets in for about 5 min. Other than looking good, I think the IS300 is over-rated.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 04:35 AM
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If you are talking about the current IS300 then it's overrated. 15.1 with a manual and 15.7 with an automatic. And that is with a good driver. The IS is really not a good platform for power. Remember that IS on Rides?? Well that 6 speed with GS engine IS could only do 14.0

There are lots of other IS that have turbos and are slow. My 4 cylender altima makes 15.7 in the 1/4 mile. That is only with intake and a 75 shot. A maxima is capable of a lot more because it has 2 extra cylenders.
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If I was you I would leave it stock, go to the track and race bracket for a year until you learn as much as you can then decide. You may not even want nitrous anymore.

Next year I am not sure I will use it at all for the racing I am doing, its harder to make the car consistant, cost money to refill and possible damage if something goes wrong.

Last sunday I was racing the 1/8 mile against an 11 sec truck (slow as he11) and he was kicking A$$. I didn't have to go against him but he took out a whole bunch of 6 sec guys.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 06:58 AM
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how the hell does an 11 sec truck kick a 6 sec car ***??? I have a 10 sec car, I want to kick some 6 sec car *** too.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:09 AM
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You abviously know nothing about bracket racing. Try google.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
how the hell does an 11 sec truck kick a 6 sec car ***??? I have a 10 sec car, I want to kick some 6 sec car *** too.
They do it by bracket racing, which is what 95% of the V8 community does. Time does not matter, r/t and consistency is king. It takes a lot more talent to bracket race than heads up.

Heads up is virtually dead in the v8 world except for the super fast guys like John Force etc even 6 and 7 sec 1/4 guys race bracket. The heads up import world is slowly catching on that the richest guy usually wins and it kills the sport so bracket racing was invented to level the playing field.
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This is my plan, more or less. Just like you guys said, I'm leaving mine more or less stock (except free mods) and running my car like that for awhile until I get the hang of it, seeing as how I've never even raced before. I have a friend with an AWD Talon who did quite well in the bracket racing last weekend, so he'll be showing me the ropes.
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I think you've got the idea Tatanko. Experience will be much more worth it than just ordering all the kits that you see on the web.

Also . .(RockfordMax) as far as speed goes (which seems like what you're into) the IS is not a step up from the Maxima. With all the stock/lightly modded ones I have come accross I always manage to walk (well creep) them. My experience being in the 40-100 range, I hear they open up in the top end.

Just take your time and build skill, it will be best overall.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Jime
They do it by bracket racing, which is what 95% of the V8 community does. Time does not matter, r/t and consistency is king. It takes a lot more talent to bracket race than heads up.

Heads up is virtually dead in the v8 world except for the super fast guys like John Force etc even 6 and 7 sec 1/4 guys race bracket. The heads up import world is slowly catching on that the richest guy usually wins and it kills the sport so bracket racing was invented to level the playing field.
Under nitrous I'm not consitent at all, I just spray as soon as I feel I have traction, which is different at times. But in NA form I'm very consistent(1/4 mile time). How do you get the best light?? Just leave on the last yellow??
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Fr33way
I think you've got the idea Tatanko. Experience will be much more worth it than just ordering all the kits that you see on the web.

Also . .(RockfordMax) as far as speed goes (which seems like what you're into) the IS is not a step up from the Maxima. With all the stock/lightly modded ones I have come accross I always manage to walk (well creep) them. My experience being in the 40-100 range, I hear they open up in the top end.

Just take your time and build skill, it will be best overall.
They are slow at the track, but on the freeway it's game over. From a roll it's hard to beat one.
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
Under nitrous I'm not consitent at all, I just spray as soon as I feel I have traction, which is different at times. But in NA form I'm very consistent(1/4 mile time). How do you get the best light?? Just leave on the last yellow??
You have to have slicks to race, especially with nitrous, if your wheels spin off the line your consistency is gone. No wheelspin=consistency. The V8 guys either put bigger tires, higher gear ratio or less power to achieve this.

I do not race anymore with nitrous, N/A only.

Leave as soon as the 3rd yellow lights.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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A y-pipe+VI can fix that quite easily.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Jime
You have to have slicks to race, especially with nitrous, if your wheels spin off the line your consistency is gone. No wheelspin=consistency. The V8 guys either put bigger tires, higher gear ratio or less power to achieve this.

I do not race anymore with nitrous, N/A only.

Leave as soon as the 3rd yellow lights.
With my current tires my 60' is all over the place. I used to have Kelly tires the 60' wasn't consistent but my 1/4 mile was.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Brushedpewter
They are slow at the track, but on the freeway it's game over. From a roll it's hard to beat one.
If you drive a saturn.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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I doubt it after my 1st butt-dyno session with the intake and Y. They help open up the top end more, my car really rips through 3rd and keeps going in 4th

Not that I have a 3.5 swap or anything, but a highway run with the IS would not worry me.
Old Jul 12, 2005 | 06:39 PM
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Originally Posted by SeaFoam2DMax
If you drive a saturn.
we are talking about stock/lightly modified. I can smoke the auto IS300 at the track but on the freeway I doubt that will happen. I'd never drive a domestic. I own a 99 altima.
Old Jul 13, 2005 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Jime
Heads up is virtually dead in the v8 world except for the super fast guys like John Force etc even 6 and 7 sec 1/4 guys race bracket. The heads up import world is slowly catching on that the richest guy usually wins and it kills the sport so bracket racing was invented to level the playing field.
Yeah but I like the indexed classes, you know where they have a 10.00 breakout (can't go faster or you lose). It's sort of like bracket but you don't get to pick your own dial in.



As for the original post. I guess listen to what these guys are saying. Get a few bolt ons first. I had intake/exhaust before I got my nitrous setup. And I'm guessing you don't intend on using it for racing at the track, that's just the excuse to get it LOL. I remember how I thought, hell I still do think that way.

Run the bolt ons, get some experience driving, then go for the juicy boost. Learn as much as you can about it so your an expert by the time you do get it.

Old Jul 18, 2005 | 07:28 PM
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nitrous is safe and fun. i dont recommend getting it right away, but its a VERY worthwhile modification. cousin has it in his maxima up here, but he dosnt have the internet..(i know dont ask)
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