4th Generation Maxima (1995-1999) Visit the 4th Generation forum to ask specific questions or find out more about the 4th Generation Maxima.

How to: Create custom LED Map/Dome lights[Tons of pics]

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:10 PM
  #1  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
How to: Create custom LED Map/Dome lights[Tons of pics]

This is my howto on how to create custom map/dome lights with premade LED boards. I found the LEDs thanks to AZDAVE on HIDplant.com. Thread here:
http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=38557

I was never satisfied with the color or the output of the bulbs in the 4th gen map/dome lights so I decided to do my own.

I am NOT liable for anything YOU do to YOUR car so do this at your own RISK.

Tools/Parts:
Phillips Screw Driver
Flat head screw driver
Soldering Iron
Solder
50ohm resistors(or 100ohm) - See http://www.rcaz.com/images/electroni...r_solution.jpg
Led Cluster: http://cgi.ebay.com/Fantastic-Cluste...QQcmdZViewItem
Hot glue gun
Wire strippers/Cutters
Shrink Wrap(optional)


Installation:


Remove the map light by just pulling it down. It will come out easily. Get the boards and glue one board in the middle. Take another board and remove it from its base. Glue this one in next to the first board.

Solder one ground to another.
- Yes I know it looks like **** but I don't want any comments on it

Run the wires through the holes and solder in as shown. The grey wire with the blue stripe is POSITIVE and the solid wire is the NEG.

Daytime pic - no flash

Daytime with cover on.

Last edited by Kevlo911; Jun 30, 2011 at 07:24 PM.
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:10 PM
  #2  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
Dome light:
Now on to the dome light. Remove the cover on the dome light and then remove the 2 phillips screws holding it in place.
You can mount the leds however you want. I wanted to keep the stock parts in so I did it this way. I cut off one end of the board making sure I didn't cut any traces EXCEPT the ones that connect the (+) and (-) on each side. Be careful when doing this.

This is how I installed the boards. Connect the grounds to eachother and you want to make sure you connect the grounds to the WHITE wire and the white wire ONLY. If you don't you would be able to retain the ON and Door open function. The hot glue also keeps the connections from touching so they wont short out.

Run the wires as shown.

Install like shown. The Grey/blue wire is positive once again.

Test just to make sure I wired it properly haha.

PLENTY of output

Now go back and install it in the car...

Last edited by Kevlo911; Jun 30, 2011 at 07:25 PM.
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:11 PM
  #3  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
Output pictures:


Backseat - map light output.

From the outside of the car - map light only.


From the sunroof closed - map light only


Drivers side front - Dome light only

Next to dome light - dome output

Last edited by Kevlo911; Jun 30, 2011 at 07:26 PM.
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:18 PM
  #4  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
More output


From front of car - dome only


Back seat - map and dome on


From outside the car - map and dome on


From the front of the car - map and dome on


From outside the car - map and dome on


Random shot of my 2 color gauges lol.


This cost me about 10 bucks so I considered it a success.

Last edited by Kevlo911; Jun 30, 2011 at 07:27 PM.
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:19 PM
  #5  
Hammy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Sweet, Check you Pm.
Old Mar 12, 2008 | 10:24 PM
  #6  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
more!




Last edited by Kevlo911; Jun 30, 2011 at 07:28 PM.
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 12:05 AM
  #7  
Snypa's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (35)
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 7,389
From: I-75 4th_Laud
looks really nice man.
Old Mar 13, 2008 | 08:57 AM
  #8  
MOHFpro90's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (11)
 
Joined: Aug 2006
Posts: 4,705
From: Sunshine State
Nice thread kev.


Love the gator in the front seat.
Old May 23, 2008 | 06:00 AM
  #9  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:00 AM
  #10  
G4nismo's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,683
From: Columbia, SC
just ordered 50 3mm white 6000mcd LEDS and going to redo everything, pretty much what you did, cause setup right now is crap and is falling apart.

where did you get your breadboard by the way? radioshack perhaps?
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:04 AM
  #11  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
Search "9 chip led" on Ebay and you will see the boards I bought
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:08 AM
  #12  
G4nismo's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,683
From: Columbia, SC
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
Search "9 chip led" on Ebay and you will see the boards I bought
uhhhh those already have leds on them.... there actually dirt cheap though.
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:13 AM
  #13  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
Yeah, I didn't know if you knew or not.

I usually get breadboard from radioshack, but I haven't done a project that required them in a while
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:26 AM
  #14  
Teaner's Avatar
2003 Nisan Maxima
iTrader: (191)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,457
From: timonium, maryland
wouldnt have been easy to make the led's a plug and play so you didnt have to splice everything?

are the back of your bread boards adhesive?

good work overall, nice modification
Old May 23, 2008 | 07:29 AM
  #15  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
I don't mind soldering, it is a good solid connection. To make it PnP I would have to break a bulb and then solder the wires to the base of a bulb
Old May 23, 2008 | 08:07 AM
  #16  
Teaner's Avatar
2003 Nisan Maxima
iTrader: (191)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,457
From: timonium, maryland
i just bought some led boards off of an org member im sure it was failry simple to make. its for a 5th gen though.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543995
Old May 23, 2008 | 08:15 AM
  #17  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
Originally Posted by Teaner
i just bought some led boards off of an org member im sure it was failry simple to make. its for a 5th gen though.

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=543995

Too much money and too many LEDs.
Old May 23, 2008 | 11:26 AM
  #18  
Teaner's Avatar
2003 Nisan Maxima
iTrader: (191)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 3,457
From: timonium, maryland
MY POINT was to just show you how easy plug and play could be done.

you can never have to many led's
Old May 23, 2008 | 12:29 PM
  #19  
oallauddin's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 22
sweet, this is a cool little project
Old May 23, 2008 | 12:57 PM
  #20  
kzoosho's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 4,029
From: Grand rapids Mi
Originally Posted by Teaner
MY POINT was to just show you how easy plug and play could be done.

you can never have to many led's
Umm yes you can and this is coming from someone that has led everything.
Old May 23, 2008 | 01:52 PM
  #21  
G4nismo's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,683
From: Columbia, SC
Originally Posted by Teaner
MY POINT was to just show you how easy plug and play could be done.

you can never have to many led's
man his price is over the top IMO. you could simply buy your own leds and breadboard and do your own for less than $15. excluding tools.
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:51 PM
  #22  
aznsap's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,135
ya, i bought LEDs for cheap and PC Board and did this project a few years back.
kevlo you did a great job. i'll add my pics so people have more reference as well.

how i did the courtest lights (in the door). you can google up 'led calculator' to figure out what ohm resistors you need depending on how many led's are in your array.
test fitting of the pc board i cut out in the map light. i had to do some dremeling and use one of the stock screws to hold the pcb in place.

back of the pcb. keep the soldering clean and make sure the contacts are firm. i recommend using flux and running the + and - in opposite directions.

how i put everything together. make sure you have a resistor in there
the what it looks like in, all ready to go
Old May 24, 2008 | 06:53 PM
  #23  
aznsap's Avatar
Supporting Maxima.org Member
iTrader: (29)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 2,135

test fitment of the pcb in the dome light

you know what im too lazy to post the rest of my pics so if you want to check them out on my cardomain here:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/352601/10
Old May 24, 2008 | 07:05 PM
  #24  
metallic97gxe's Avatar
Master Will
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Sep 2000
Posts: 5,270
From: Metter,Ga
been thinking of the same mod myself great write up and pics
Old Aug 6, 2008 | 07:57 PM
  #25  
rexolicious's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 44
From: Fayetteville, AR
Great write up! Just got my map light installed on my 5th gen. The only difference is that there isn't any blue stripe on my pos+ wire. No prob though.
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:46 PM
  #26  
NousDefions's Avatar
Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 146
From: CONUS
Originally Posted by aznsap

test fitment of the pcb in the dome light

you know what im too lazy to post the rest of my pics so if you want to check them out on my cardomain here:

http://www.cardomain.com/ride/352601/10
I just did the modification today to all the bulb interior lights (dome, map, and both doors) using a Ratshack perf board like you did. They fit like a champ.

I wired everything series-parallel in groups of three, using a 100 ohm resistor to manage current on each of the series legs. Although not necessary, I also used an LM317T variable voltage regulator (wired with a single sensing resistor so it performs as a current regulator) for the map light and dome light so regardless of the battery voltage they will remain the same brightness. Works pretty well.

Thanks for the photos that got me started on this project!

As an aside, just looking at some of the way people have their LED's wired in an array, I would only expect to see a few hundred hours of lifespan from running them way, WAY over the rated current. Brush up on Ohm's law before you do this, unless you want to have to pull your boards out again. Running 20mA or less should get you a long, long LED life.... much longer than the life of the car.

Last edited by NousDefions; Oct 5, 2008 at 05:56 PM.
Old Oct 5, 2008 | 05:52 PM
  #27  
maxx0831's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 765
From: Queens,NY
definately looks sweet bro... nice job and write up
Old Jan 14, 2009 | 07:08 PM
  #28  
Black97maxx's Avatar
Newbie - Just Registered
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 3
From: CT
thankz for the write up i been lookin into this for the past few days n i really wanna do this lil project for my car, gettin tired of the stock lights...but yea thnkz n great write up n pics
Old Feb 3, 2009 | 09:27 PM
  #29  
Dome1's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Ok so I was making my bulb using this method "http://www.pbase.com/dloftus/led_flashlight_bulb" but i used a 100 ohm resistor instead, the bulb still doesn't work in the car but when I connect it to a 9v battery it works. whats wrong to I a higher number resistor. This is my first try at this so sorry if what im asking is a dumb question.
Old Feb 4, 2009 | 06:03 PM
  #30  
Dome1's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 04:53 AM
  #31  
AtomicBatman's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 21
From: Rhode Island
Nice Project, that was one of the things I didn't like about my car when I bought it. Interior lights are too dim (especially the door ones). If you did the door lights too can we see some pics and also how long did it take to do both lights?
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 05:47 AM
  #32  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
Originally Posted by Dome1
Ok so I was making my bulb using this method "http://www.pbase.com/dloftus/led_flashlight_bulb" but i used a 100 ohm resistor instead, the bulb still doesn't work in the car but when I connect it to a 9v battery it works. whats wrong to I a higher number resistor. This is my first try at this so sorry if what im asking is a dumb question.


That write up is for 3v? Did you get it up to 12v? I would assume the wireing is backwards if it works with a 9v batt and not the car. Did you try it on the car batt?
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:07 AM
  #33  
Dome1's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
What do you mean did I get it up to a 12v. Well from that write up instead of using a 47ohm resistor I am using a 100ohm.
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 07:04 AM
  #34  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
My bad i misread what you are trying to do. If you are using one led, it is not gonna be very bright but. To get the right resistor you need the specs on the led and plugging it into:
http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz

To get the proper resistor.

Last edited by Kevlo911; Feb 5, 2009 at 07:09 AM.
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:14 PM
  #35  
Dome1's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 29
Thank you that helps a lot. Now I just have to try it out tomorrow the calculator says I need a 470 ohm. I will let you know if it does.
Old Feb 5, 2009 | 06:54 PM
  #36  
tyler5619's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,087
From: Murfreesboro, TN
inappropriate thread perhaps, but is there a howto (ANYWHERE) on how to make your own LED Tails?

yes, i have searched.
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 07:19 AM
  #37  
Kevlo911's Avatar
Thread Starter
Kevlo for President
iTrader: (36)
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 35,755
From: Lake Orion, MI
No but you can buy some from me
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:01 AM
  #38  
shyheim07's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 392
From: Boston, MA
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
My bad i misread what you are trying to do. If you are using one led, it is not gonna be very bright but. To get the right resistor you need the specs on the led and plugging it into:
http://led.linear1.org/1led.wiz

To get the proper resistor.
Oh man I want to do this so bad. These are the boards I found (UV)
EBAY

But I'm still a little confused, even with the calculator.

If I use two of these for the center dome, it will be 16 Leds...so I put the source voltage as 13.4 (car batt)..3.3 forward voltage and 20mA and it says I need 1/4W resistors....12ohm for four leds...

The way the wiring diagram shows it is wiring four leds, to four resistors, but in this case it would be 8 leds to one resistor because of the board...

ARRGHHH am I on the right track here?
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 08:08 AM
  #39  
shyheim07's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 392
From: Boston, MA
either that, or I was just gonna buy this...

V-Leds
Old Feb 6, 2009 | 11:47 AM
  #40  
tyler5619's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 1,087
From: Murfreesboro, TN
Originally Posted by Kevlo911
No but you can buy some from me
how much shipped? do you need my current tails, or how does it work



All times are GMT -7. The time now is 05:47 PM.