Do all 99s have to buy the special SC kit or is it just SE-L that need the 99 kit?

Thanks

 

It's not just the SE'L's it very well may be all 99's

 

How much different are they? I heard it is just a different mounting bracket. Could I have a shop modify an earlier bracket or do I have to get a 99 kit?

 

The bracket for the SC itself is the same. There are some other doodads that are included in the 99 kit for some more relocations and stuff that you need. I don't know how much of this is a neccessity versus a nice to have, most of Stillen's kit can be worked around

 

I argee. I've never installed a SC, but understand the basic idea and have read through the instructions.

I've lined up my 99 and my old 97 and looked them over. The differences are so minor, I'm sure you COULD work around the differences in the kit if you needed to.

Personally though, I'd spring for a new kit, and not just because the 99's need a "special" one.

 

I was really looking going for a turbo, but I found a really good deal on a supercharger soI might have to go with that.

 

Boost is boost... granted the gains on the Turbo are outstanding, but 300HP out of a max is nothing to snub your nose at. I am not hating on the turbo guys. I always wanted to go turbo, but never wanted to go custom, now the kit is out, and I already have the SC...

350FWHP is not too shabby, that is my goal, and if I get there soon, I will leave the car as is. If not... enh I don't even wanna think about that...

 

I am on a college budget so I might have to go SC even though the turbo is what I really want just so I have some extra cash.

 

if its a 95 - 98 kit.. i wouldn't mess with trying to make it work.. if it doesn't fit you are fcked

 

Why do you say that? What do you know about the 99 kit that I don't? I am not being a wiseass or anything, just trying to get a feel for the 99 kit. I have worked on 95-98's and 2K+ SC kit's but never a 99. There is not much in Stillen's kit that I found to be absolutely essential, other than the plate and the piping, everything else can be worked around from what I have seen. I know the 99 kit does have some differences, but I was always fairy confident that a 95-98 kit could be adapted relatively easily, although I wouldn't go around betting my mother on it or anything. Please shed some light on this bro.

 

i don't know the workings of it.. i have never installed it.. however.. i was using your tribulations as an example.. obviously we have established their is some differnce with both kits.. wether large or small large.. stillen is going to give him **** over it.. i mean he is welcome to try.. obviously i don't know anything about the install or what it entails.. but what i do know is.. if something goes wrong.. he is going to go through a nightmare getting it right..

but i dunno..

 

Just curious, can a 2k-2k1 kit modified to fit in a 97?

 

thats pretty much what we are debating right now

 

I thought we were debating about the 99

 

The 99 kit is basically the same as a 2k-2k1 so if a 95-98 kit fits a 99 with some adjusment a newer kit should fit the 95-98 with some modification.

 

thanks for explaining that

 

Well it apeared some of us weren't sure what this topic was about.

Maybe I should just fork out the extra money for the turbo

 

 

Spemdimg money is like getting kicked in the nuts

 

yes.. and if you have big ***** like kev and delio it doesn't hurt at all

 

What does the size of my ***** have anything to do with anything? LOL!

 

I have a 99 SE-L, and my kit looks quite similar to the other kits (via ptatohead's writeup).

I'll do a check again and see if there are any different parts.

 

Tanks for looking.

 

Notice anything?

 

Guys, sorry for the long wait........long weekend plus my bud's bachelor party = me being hung over and broke.

I've been having trouble getting to ptatohed's homepage. Is it down or something? I had to go at this by memory so don't be TOO mad at me (a.k.a. Sprint )

BUT.. as far as I can see, the kit does resemble the other 97-98 kits. There is an aux fuel pump and wiring, extra hoses for power steering, belts for the S/C that are wrapped around the charger (how it came in the box) Different bags for the P.O.S. plastic Idler and Tenisor pulleys (they look like the ones Danny posted awhile back so I don't know if stillen actually fixed the problem or not). It came w/ the donut filter and breathing material, fuse box relocation unit (piece of plastic).

The kit came in 2 boxes.... 1 HUGE Box that had the S/C already mounted to the mounting bracket (looks the same as ptatohed's), 2 small boxes inside : 1 containing the Aux fuel pump and wiring assembly, and 2 containig the pulleys and misc parts (i.e. oil drainback plate). Outside this, was the S/C and bracket, and a bunch-o-hoses. I did not see, however, a relocation for the winshield washer resevoir. Maybe it's something magical, such as just moving the location by twisting the actual unit.

The second box contained the aluminum/metal tubing the air goes through to the throttle body. Just a small long box.

The kit came w/ instructions and... OH Some cool stickers to advertise the S/C, so it could be stolen! yea, I won't be putting those on. Maybe I'll wear the MAXIMA SUPERCHARGED Emblem around my neck... OLD SCHOOL STYLE! J/K.

Seriously, there were some things that stillen should have addressed, i.e. spark plug issues, exhaust (y to be exact), and the oil cooler. IN their newest catalog they advertise the Oil Cooler Unit right below the S/C. They should have the option of adding in the Oil Cooler and Spark Plugs (which you could buy from them) at a reduced price. Afterall, you are buying a 3500 dollar unit, the least they could do is cut you a LIL break on the extras!

I hope that this helps, please let me know if I missed anything. I will be getting my S/C installed here soon, but I do still need to get the Y Pipe (from Warpspeed) Thinking of getting the MIG welded... there is not that much of a difference (according to Dallas), and the oil cooler unit from Stillen. Any ideas where to get that cheaper that the 300 that is advertised?

 

I have to correct something:

The part about the mounting plate: it DOES look different that DIXIT's:


the plate looks more ergonomic (sp?) One of these G.D. days I will get a digi so I can click some pics.....grrrr

 

I can do everyone here a favor if anyone in the Atl area has a 5th gen and is supercharged I would remove off their car and install it on my car just for 30 mins and test it out to see if it will fit. Thats the only way we can solve this mystery question will a 2k-2k1 SCer fit a 4th gen Max?

 

So its safe to assume that the only difference would be the mounting plate, correct?

If that's the case I can put my 99 next to my mothers 97 and measure the distance to and from holes, etc, to make sure they are the same.

 

I'll go home and measure it tonight, length and width, and let you know tomorrow EJJ

 

EJJ,

I'm sorry but I couldn't measure the S/C plate last night. My girlfriend stole my tape measure to do something w/ curtains, etc. Anyway I did count holes, and there were 18. I'll HOPEFULLY be able to do that tonight!

-fnny

 

Don't worry about it. I have a 99 and my mother has a 97. I'm going to go to her place this weekend and check for myself. I know which holes in the timing cover the SC plate uses, and I'm just going to check if they're the same or not.

 

well let me know b/c I am surely interested.

-fnny

 

me too...

 

I have a partial 98/99 SC kit in my 99SE (none L) installed on 5/99. I believe my car was the reason why there is a seperate kit for 99. I didn't install the kit myself so I don't have all the details other than the ones I know for sure.

The mounting bracket is defintely different. Stillen originally sold me the 98 kit telling me that it will fit 99 without any problem. Of course my installer had to improvise on several hoses and such because they were either too short or were of different sizes. I believe he was in constant contact with Stillen letting them know what didn't fit/needed modified.

I had the 98 bracket installed on my car originally, but because the way it was mounted to to timing chain cover, it ended up cracking the lower part of the cover and started leaking oil. The locations for the bolts and the size were the same but Nissan made the base where the bolt goes in narrower on 99. Stillen had to refabricate the bracket to make that part narrower. Copied from another post on the bracket below is 97-98 bracket.



On my 99 bracket, the part where it mounts to the timing chain cover is narrowed. Sorry I don't have a pic for it

It costed my installer around $1500 from the dealer to replace the timing chain cover which Stillen reimbursed I believe.

So other than the bracket, my kit is a 98 kit with alot of bandaged hoses.

Hopely this helps. =)