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V2 INTERCOOLER, who would want one???

Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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V2 INTERCOOLER, who would want one???

I'm going to intercool my car in the next couple weeks. I will have baseline dyno #'s and post-install #'s. I will post the hp gains (hopefully) and boost losses (design will keep that to a minimum.) The question is who would want one if I manufacture multiple kits???
This is a SERIOUS thread. The more made of course the cheaper the cost. Cost will be ROUGHLY $1K but probably cheaper. Just thinking worst case scenario. My car is a

5th gen AE 5spd (3.125) 323.xx fwhp tuned.
There's more power somewhere and I'll find it. Other members have done custom IC's and are satisfied. Thanks for the help fellas. intercooling improves throttle response, increases hp/tq, and prevents detonation.

I will be working with dashingmax (bobby) for a 4th gen design as well. BOV connections will exist as well as room for MAF's in 4th gens.
So give me an idea of who is up for an intercooler so I can get these rolling.
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Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:41 AM
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Not a bad price. That's around what a shop quoted me for pipes, IC, couplers, clamps, and labor for the SC

Never went through with it because I went WI.
Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Re: V2 INTERCOOLER, who would want one???

Originally posted by 20thdriven
I'm going to intercool my car in the next couple weeks. I will have baseline dyno #'s and post-install #'s. I will post the hp gains (hopefully) and boost losses (design will keep that to a minimum.) The question is who would want one if I manufacture multiple kits???
This is a SERIOUS thread. The more made of course the cheaper the cost. Cost will be ROUGHLY $1K but probably cheaper. Just thinking worst case scenario. My car is a

5th gen AE 5spd (3.125) 323.xx fwhp tuned.
There's more power somewhere and I'll find it. Other members have done custom IC's and are satisfied. Thanks for the help fellas. intercooling improves throttle response, increases hp/tq, and prevents detonation.

I will be working with dashingmax (bobby) for a 4th gen design as well. BOV connections will exist as well as room for MAF's in 4th gens.
So give me an idea of who is up for an intercooler so I can get these rolling.
Thanks

Derrick
Sounds good.. I would definitely be down for an IC kit
Old Apr 11, 2003 | 10:54 AM
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I got one and it is worth it. Good luck.
Old Apr 11, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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what size piping and what kind of finish? cfm's of the i/c? ease of fit i guess can wait til later.
Old Apr 11, 2003 | 11:42 AM
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Originally posted by Confused
what size piping and what kind of finish? cfm's of the i/c? ease of fit i guess can wait til later.

good question, what size piping bigger then what we have currently?
Old Apr 11, 2003 | 01:26 PM
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Are you talking about a FMIC kit?

I always though a AWIC would make more sense with our SC setup, and be easier, if not cheaper to do.
Old Apr 12, 2003 | 12:31 AM
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IC answers

-Piping will be no less than stock. People have lost ~1psi so let's keep it as big as possible. Specs will come during install.
-kit will be able to handle max V2 boost/CFM (2.87")
-Project is for portfolio not business, hence the resonable price
-It will be FMIC, don't want to mess with hoses/leaks/pumps/resivoir of AWIC's
-Finish will be standard aluminum/steel piping, powder coating of course is possible with an increased price. I don't want to have to charge a higher price though for something non-performance based, (I'm biased though cuz I don't show my car, Kev he's trying to tell you to get your TC finished by next show J/K)

-If the air's not cold enough for you. I plan to use the NX
N-tercooler on mine. It took .7 sec off the 1/4 on a WRX just spraying n2o or co2 on the core. It's like pulling in winter cold air on a summer day with a grippy track. Just another mod I can't say no to.

Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. I'm a perfectionist and I don't want this any different.
I'll keep you posted.
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Old Apr 12, 2003 | 06:11 AM
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Re: IC answers

Originally posted by 20thdriven
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-If the air's not cold enough for you. I plan to use the NX
N-tercooler on mine. It took .7 sec off the 1/4 on a WRX just spraying n2o or co2 on the core. It's like pulling in winter cold air on a summer day with a grippy track. Just another mod I can't say no to.

Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. I'm a perfectionist and I don't want this any different.
I'll keep you posted.
Derrick
so the complete purpose of the NX kit would just to spray the intercooler to get cold right?

I heard of this set up and that would be a great idea. Craig Liberman has that set up on that blue skyline.
Old Apr 12, 2003 | 11:20 AM
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Sounds good to me.

SHow me the gains, and then I'll buy if it's worth it.
Old Apr 12, 2003 | 11:57 AM
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Hmmmm. . .this sounds interesting. I would be interested if the gains are worth it, I like the idea of the NX kit too.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 09:14 AM
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i think in one of the turbo magazine or not sure which one they did a stillen sc intercooled system and gained 50 hp at the wheel. i will look for the magazine cause it explains the whole process of the piping so i'll let u sc guys know when i find it.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by qnpark
i think in one of the turbo magazine or not sure which one they did a stillen sc intercooled system and gained 50 hp at the wheel. i will look for the magazine cause it explains the whole process of the piping so i'll let u sc guys know when i find it.
dang~....50whp. how much boost are they running?

sure? that's like adding 4 psi of boost.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:15 PM
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Originally posted by [maxi-overdose]


dang~....50whp. how much boost are they running?

sure? that's like adding 4 psi of boost.
there's no way we're going to see that much of a gain just by throwing that on...
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:21 PM
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there's no way we're going to see that much of a gain just by throwing that on...
15-20 isn't unheard of...and 20 plus ft/tq as well...add some fine tuning with some sort of ECU adjutment and it's all good.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:29 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out


15-20 isn't unheard of...and 20 plus ft/tq as well...add some fine tuning with some sort of ECU adjutment and it's all good.

read above, i was referring to 50 whp.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by seximagtr



read above, i was referring to 50 whp.
I know...I'm setting it out there. So the normal numbers are known.
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by max'n out


I know...I'm setting it out there. So the normal numbers are known.

coo
Old Apr 16, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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well dats what i think i read. well i'll be posting the magazine by tonight if i find it.
Old Apr 19, 2003 | 09:34 PM
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If the numbers are good I would be interested also.
Old Apr 21, 2003 | 03:44 PM
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Count me in. I always thought about one but didn't want to deal with the time/headache of cutomizing one. So if there is a perfect fit kit, I'd be stoked.
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 11:17 AM
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With the benefits of a more quality air charge with the awic "more oxygen in the combustion" would I run lean automatically? or would the colder air actually lower egts to the point where extra fuel wouldn't be necessary. I am pretty much maxed out with my current setup (326whp with stock injectors) and the next power step I assume an injector upgrade (370cc) would be necessary. I really don't want to go that far but nice cooler to ambient air in the summer would kick ***. What do you guys think?
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 12:16 PM
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question : will there be two different kits for 5th and 4th gen? 4th gen's MAF is on the charger piping.
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by [maxi-overdose]
question : will there be two different kits for 5th and 4th gen? 4th gen's MAF is on the charger piping.
guees this isn't gonna happen.
Old Apr 27, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Originally posted by AllGo
With the benefits of a more quality air charge with the awic "more oxygen in the combustion" would I run lean automatically? or would the colder air actually lower egts to the point where extra fuel wouldn't be necessary. I am pretty much maxed out with my current setup (326whp with stock injectors) and the next power step I assume an injector upgrade (370cc) would be necessary. I really don't want to go that far but nice cooler to ambient air in the summer would kick ***. What do you guys think?
Yes!
Cooler air is denser and hence contains more Oxygen parts compared to hotter air.
326whp on Stock injectors on 4th gen! I'd say you're pushing things to the edge...waaay to the edge!!
Get those injectors first...just my 0.02
Old Apr 28, 2003 | 07:39 AM
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Originally posted by dashingMax

Yes!
Cooler air is denser and hence contains more Oxygen parts compared to hotter air.
326whp on Stock injectors on 4th gen! I'd say you're pushing things to the edge...waaay to the edge!!
Get those injectors first...just my 0.02
My 12.5 air/fuel is flatline from 2500-6500rpm so I am safe for now. The cooler denser air from even a 100degree drop would definitely cause some leanness and I have no room to increase fuel from 6k up. From 3.5k to 5.5k I am taking out a decent amount of fuel right now so it could be fattened up there with no problems. But as you get towards redline on a centrifugal blower and peak power numbers are made, this is where the leanness/detonation would show itself. I cant help but wonder how much stronger the pull would be with a good awic setup. Midday driving with repetitive boosting just doesn't give you that early morning pull
Old May 6, 2003 | 10:17 AM
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i have an ae superchargered with an ic kit and it's worth it..
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