V2 INTERCOOLER, who would want one???
V2 INTERCOOLER, who would want one???
I'm going to intercool my car in the next couple weeks. I will have baseline dyno #'s and post-install #'s. I will post the hp gains (hopefully) and boost losses (design will keep that to a minimum.) The question is who would want one if I manufacture multiple kits???
This is a SERIOUS thread. The more made of course the cheaper the cost. Cost will be ROUGHLY $1K but probably cheaper. Just thinking worst case scenario. My car is a
5th gen AE 5spd (3.125) 323.xx fwhp tuned.
There's more power somewhere and I'll find it. Other members have done custom IC's and are satisfied. Thanks for the help fellas. intercooling improves throttle response, increases hp/tq, and prevents detonation.
I will be working with dashingmax (bobby) for a 4th gen design as well. BOV connections will exist as well as room for MAF's in 4th gens.
So give me an idea of who is up for an intercooler so I can get these rolling.
Thanks
Derrick
This is a SERIOUS thread. The more made of course the cheaper the cost. Cost will be ROUGHLY $1K but probably cheaper. Just thinking worst case scenario. My car is a
5th gen AE 5spd (3.125) 323.xx fwhp tuned.
There's more power somewhere and I'll find it. Other members have done custom IC's and are satisfied. Thanks for the help fellas. intercooling improves throttle response, increases hp/tq, and prevents detonation.
I will be working with dashingmax (bobby) for a 4th gen design as well. BOV connections will exist as well as room for MAF's in 4th gens.
So give me an idea of who is up for an intercooler so I can get these rolling.
Thanks
Derrick
Re: V2 INTERCOOLER, who would want one???
Originally posted by 20thdriven
I'm going to intercool my car in the next couple weeks. I will have baseline dyno #'s and post-install #'s. I will post the hp gains (hopefully) and boost losses (design will keep that to a minimum.) The question is who would want one if I manufacture multiple kits???
This is a SERIOUS thread. The more made of course the cheaper the cost. Cost will be ROUGHLY $1K but probably cheaper. Just thinking worst case scenario. My car is a
5th gen AE 5spd (3.125) 323.xx fwhp tuned.
There's more power somewhere and I'll find it. Other members have done custom IC's and are satisfied. Thanks for the help fellas. intercooling improves throttle response, increases hp/tq, and prevents detonation.
I will be working with dashingmax (bobby) for a 4th gen design as well. BOV connections will exist as well as room for MAF's in 4th gens.
So give me an idea of who is up for an intercooler so I can get these rolling.
Thanks
Derrick
I'm going to intercool my car in the next couple weeks. I will have baseline dyno #'s and post-install #'s. I will post the hp gains (hopefully) and boost losses (design will keep that to a minimum.) The question is who would want one if I manufacture multiple kits???
This is a SERIOUS thread. The more made of course the cheaper the cost. Cost will be ROUGHLY $1K but probably cheaper. Just thinking worst case scenario. My car is a
5th gen AE 5spd (3.125) 323.xx fwhp tuned.
There's more power somewhere and I'll find it. Other members have done custom IC's and are satisfied. Thanks for the help fellas. intercooling improves throttle response, increases hp/tq, and prevents detonation.
I will be working with dashingmax (bobby) for a 4th gen design as well. BOV connections will exist as well as room for MAF's in 4th gens.
So give me an idea of who is up for an intercooler so I can get these rolling.
Thanks
Derrick
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,451
From: Near Archer High School, Ga
Originally posted by Confused
what size piping and what kind of finish? cfm's of the i/c? ease of fit i guess can wait til later.
what size piping and what kind of finish? cfm's of the i/c? ease of fit i guess can wait til later.
good question, what size piping bigger then what we have currently?
IC answers
-Piping will be no less than stock. People have lost ~1psi so let's keep it as big as possible. Specs will come during install.
-kit will be able to handle max V2 boost/CFM (2.87")
-Project is for portfolio not business, hence the resonable price
-It will be FMIC, don't want to mess with hoses/leaks/pumps/resivoir of AWIC's
-Finish will be standard aluminum/steel piping, powder coating of course is possible with an increased price. I don't want to have to charge a higher price though for something non-performance based, (I'm biased though cuz I don't show my car, Kev he's trying to tell you to get your TC finished by next show J/K)
-If the air's not cold enough for you. I plan to use the NX
N-tercooler on mine. It took .7 sec off the 1/4 on a WRX just spraying n2o or co2 on the core. It's like pulling in winter cold air on a summer day with a grippy track. Just another mod I can't say no to.
Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. I'm a perfectionist and I don't want this any different.
I'll keep you posted.
Derrick
-kit will be able to handle max V2 boost/CFM (2.87")
-Project is for portfolio not business, hence the resonable price
-It will be FMIC, don't want to mess with hoses/leaks/pumps/resivoir of AWIC's
-Finish will be standard aluminum/steel piping, powder coating of course is possible with an increased price. I don't want to have to charge a higher price though for something non-performance based, (I'm biased though cuz I don't show my car, Kev he's trying to tell you to get your TC finished by next show J/K)
-If the air's not cold enough for you. I plan to use the NX
N-tercooler on mine. It took .7 sec off the 1/4 on a WRX just spraying n2o or co2 on the core. It's like pulling in winter cold air on a summer day with a grippy track. Just another mod I can't say no to.
Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. I'm a perfectionist and I don't want this any different.
I'll keep you posted.
Derrick
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 6,451
From: Near Archer High School, Ga
Re: IC answers
Originally posted by 20thdriven
-
-If the air's not cold enough for you. I plan to use the NX
N-tercooler on mine. It took .7 sec off the 1/4 on a WRX just spraying n2o or co2 on the core. It's like pulling in winter cold air on a summer day with a grippy track. Just another mod I can't say no to.
Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. I'm a perfectionist and I don't want this any different.
I'll keep you posted.
Derrick
-
-If the air's not cold enough for you. I plan to use the NX
N-tercooler on mine. It took .7 sec off the 1/4 on a WRX just spraying n2o or co2 on the core. It's like pulling in winter cold air on a summer day with a grippy track. Just another mod I can't say no to.
Thanks for the feedback, keep it coming. I'm a perfectionist and I don't want this any different.
I'll keep you posted.
Derrick
I heard of this set up and that would be a great idea. Craig Liberman has that set up on that blue skyline.
i think in one of the turbo magazine or not sure which one they did a stillen sc intercooled system and gained 50 hp at the wheel. i will look for the magazine cause it explains the whole process of the piping so i'll let u sc guys know when i find it.
Originally posted by qnpark
i think in one of the turbo magazine or not sure which one they did a stillen sc intercooled system and gained 50 hp at the wheel. i will look for the magazine cause it explains the whole process of the piping so i'll let u sc guys know when i find it.
i think in one of the turbo magazine or not sure which one they did a stillen sc intercooled system and gained 50 hp at the wheel. i will look for the magazine cause it explains the whole process of the piping so i'll let u sc guys know when i find it.
....50whp. how much boost are they running?sure? that's like adding 4 psi of boost.
Originally posted by [maxi-overdose]
dang~
....50whp. how much boost are they running?
sure? that's like adding 4 psi of boost.
dang~
....50whp. how much boost are they running?sure? that's like adding 4 psi of boost.
Originally posted by seximagtr
there's no way we're going to see that much of a gain just by throwing that on...
there's no way we're going to see that much of a gain just by throwing that on...
Originally posted by max'n out
15-20 isn't unheard of...and 20 plus ft/tq as well...add some fine tuning with some sort of ECU adjutment and it's all good.
15-20 isn't unheard of...and 20 plus ft/tq as well...add some fine tuning with some sort of ECU adjutment and it's all good.
read above, i was referring to 50 whp.
With the benefits of a more quality air charge with the awic "more oxygen in the combustion" would I run lean automatically? or would the colder air actually lower egts to the point where extra fuel wouldn't be necessary. I am pretty much maxed out with my current setup (326whp with stock injectors) and the next power step I assume an injector upgrade (370cc) would be necessary. I really don't want to go that far but nice cooler to ambient air in the summer would kick ***. What do you guys think?
Originally posted by [maxi-overdose]
question : will there be two different kits for 5th and 4th gen? 4th gen's MAF is on the charger piping.
question : will there be two different kits for 5th and 4th gen? 4th gen's MAF is on the charger piping.
Originally posted by AllGo
With the benefits of a more quality air charge with the awic "more oxygen in the combustion" would I run lean automatically? or would the colder air actually lower egts to the point where extra fuel wouldn't be necessary. I am pretty much maxed out with my current setup (326whp with stock injectors) and the next power step I assume an injector upgrade (370cc) would be necessary. I really don't want to go that far but nice cooler to ambient air in the summer would kick ***. What do you guys think?
With the benefits of a more quality air charge with the awic "more oxygen in the combustion" would I run lean automatically? or would the colder air actually lower egts to the point where extra fuel wouldn't be necessary. I am pretty much maxed out with my current setup (326whp with stock injectors) and the next power step I assume an injector upgrade (370cc) would be necessary. I really don't want to go that far but nice cooler to ambient air in the summer would kick ***. What do you guys think?
Cooler air is denser and hence contains more Oxygen parts compared to hotter air.
326whp on Stock injectors on 4th gen! I'd say you're pushing things to the edge...waaay to the edge!!
Get those injectors first...just my 0.02
Originally posted by dashingMax
Yes!
Cooler air is denser and hence contains more Oxygen parts compared to hotter air.
326whp on Stock injectors on 4th gen! I'd say you're pushing things to the edge...waaay to the edge!!
Get those injectors first...just my 0.02
Yes!
Cooler air is denser and hence contains more Oxygen parts compared to hotter air.
326whp on Stock injectors on 4th gen! I'd say you're pushing things to the edge...waaay to the edge!!
Get those injectors first...just my 0.02
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