Turbo teardown has begun....
08-17-2003, 07:50 PM
#1
Turbo teardown has begun....
As you all know with Hal's setup ands it major problems, Ive decided to tear apart the whole thing and get it right. I began tearing apart the most important part and going to get all this ceramic coated. Im going to start by getting the turbine housing ceramic coated. While that is getting done, Im going to get the compressor housing polished or maybe chromed if possible.
Then we will think about how i want to re-do the Reverse Ypipe. I looked at it and it may not be easy to remove the piping now that it is welded in one piece. I dont think I have enough ground clearance to remove the piping even with the jack on jacks. Might just sawzall the joker off.
http://bigdogjonx.com:81/fullpics/turbo/teardown/ Those are the pics. Yes this only took me 1hr by myself. Its not really that hard. At one point I couldnt get the silicone coupler for the intake side (3" coupler) of the turbo to come off, so decided to just slice the sucker and remove it. Will get a new one and more clean cut one instead of a hacked up one that Hal installed.
This is going to be at least a 2week project to get this all done. Good thing I got a crotchrocket to roll to work on. And the Hemi ram should be here anyday.
Dixit
Then we will think about how i want to re-do the Reverse Ypipe. I looked at it and it may not be easy to remove the piping now that it is welded in one piece. I dont think I have enough ground clearance to remove the piping even with the jack on jacks. Might just sawzall the joker off.
http://bigdogjonx.com:81/fullpics/turbo/teardown/ Those are the pics. Yes this only took me 1hr by myself. Its not really that hard. At one point I couldnt get the silicone coupler for the intake side (3" coupler) of the turbo to come off, so decided to just slice the sucker and remove it. Will get a new one and more clean cut one instead of a hacked up one that Hal installed.
This is going to be at least a 2week project to get this all done. Good thing I got a crotchrocket to roll to work on. And the Hemi ram should be here anyday.
Dixit
08-17-2003, 08:12 PM
#2
i can't believe there is no gasket on the oil drain flange and the face that a bunch of oil was coming out of your compressor into your piping. there is just oil all over the place.
best of luck and i will let you know on the powdercoating and chrome tomorrow.
best of luck and i will let you know on the powdercoating and chrome tomorrow.
08-17-2003, 08:28 PM
#4
Erik, You know any ceramic coating shops around us? I know there are a few in Marietta. I want to get this thing done ASAP. Also need a shop that will polish the compressor side as well.
Dixit
Dixit
08-18-2003, 07:38 AM
#5
dixit you can call gran muffler, they should be doing ceramic now, if not cal MIller's powder coating, that is who did my down pipe.
I am jealous.. your doing what I want to do, but maybe you will learn something that will help me.
god luck man, and I will help anywhere I can
I am jealous.. your doing what I want to do, but maybe you will learn something that will help me.
god luck man, and I will help anywhere I can
08-18-2003, 10:46 AM
#7
I'd ship the turbo to: http://www.swaintech.com/
08-18-2003, 01:31 PM
#8
I was thinking of Swain earlier, but unfortunately, I cant get over the Pearl white coating they do. I know they have some of the best coatings, but pearl white under my hood with chrome piping and all that is not going to look pretty.
Dixit
Dixit
08-18-2003, 02:36 PM
#9
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
I was thinking of Swain earlier, but unfortunately, I cant get over the Pearl white coating they do. I know they have some of the best coatings, but pearl white under my hood with chrome piping and all that is not going to look pretty.
Dixit
I was thinking of Swain earlier, but unfortunately, I cant get over the Pearl white coating they do. I know they have some of the best coatings, but pearl white under my hood with chrome piping and all that is not going to look pretty.
Dixit
You could always get one of those BLING BLING chrome HKS shields to cover it up.
08-18-2003, 07:07 PM
#10
My friend at Batlground is going to be ceramic coating Jason's pipes on Wed. evening if you want to get in on that. But the ceramic he uses is black, not sure if that's what you want. He had trouble with the shiny silver ceramic turning yellow under extreme heat.
Jason called Miller's today, and they said they're pretty booked up for a while. Next week is the earliest time they have I think.
Jason called Miller's today, and they said they're pretty booked up for a while. Next week is the earliest time they have I think.
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
I was thinking of Swain earlier, but unfortunately, I cant get over the Pearl white coating they do. I know they have some of the best coatings, but pearl white under my hood with chrome piping and all that is not going to look pretty.
Dixit
I was thinking of Swain earlier, but unfortunately, I cant get over the Pearl white coating they do. I know they have some of the best coatings, but pearl white under my hood with chrome piping and all that is not going to look pretty.
Dixit
08-18-2003, 09:59 PM
#11
Well I got more pics up of DAY2. Just look at the dates on the files and you will know which ones are DAY2.
Pics in there show the complete Ypipe out. You can see kinda how harsh the 90degree join the front bank comes into the rear piping. The last pic shows that. Some on there show the more hideous welds as well.
Turbo is completely in two pieces now. Going to get that redone. Just need to figure out how to clean and prevent the center part of the turbo from rusting again.
Dixit
Pics in there show the complete Ypipe out. You can see kinda how harsh the 90degree join the front bank comes into the rear piping. The last pic shows that. Some on there show the more hideous welds as well.
Turbo is completely in two pieces now. Going to get that redone. Just need to figure out how to clean and prevent the center part of the turbo from rusting again.
Dixit
08-19-2003, 08:31 AM
#12
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Pics in there show the complete Ypipe out. You can see kinda how harsh the 90degree join the front bank comes into the rear piping. The last pic shows that.
Pics in there show the complete Ypipe out. You can see kinda how harsh the 90degree join the front bank comes into the rear piping. The last pic shows that.
Looking at it further, you can see how the downward momentum of the exhaust from the front bank is going to oppose exhaust coming up from the rear bank, so it's going to create backpressure for the rear bank, too.
08-19-2003, 10:11 AM
#13
Stephen: I fully understand there. Except Im working with very little if any space to figure out how to make a U turn on that pip somehow to get it to join the Y more smoother then how it is right now.
Reason why I dont think it is too bad is since the rear bank has the flow coming, when the front flow joins, the rear is already flowing, kinda forcing the front to go that way as well.
Dixit
Reason why I dont think it is too bad is since the rear bank has the flow coming, when the front flow joins, the rear is already flowing, kinda forcing the front to go that way as well.
Dixit
08-19-2003, 10:41 AM
#14
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Stephen: I fully understand there. Except Im working with very little if any space to figure out how to make a U turn on that pip somehow to get it to join the Y more smoother then how it is right now.
Reason why I dont think it is too bad is since the rear bank has the flow coming, when the front flow joins, the rear is already flowing, kinda forcing the front to go that way as well.
Dixit
Stephen: I fully understand there. Except Im working with very little if any space to figure out how to make a U turn on that pip somehow to get it to join the Y more smoother then how it is right now.
Reason why I dont think it is too bad is since the rear bank has the flow coming, when the front flow joins, the rear is already flowing, kinda forcing the front to go that way as well.
Dixit
If the runners are equal, ideally you don't want the exhaust pulses to collide at the collector. However, companies spend BIG $$$ properly tuning exhaust manifolds/headers to get the timing right.
I'd say forget about it and fix what you can.
08-19-2003, 01:32 PM
#15
Well Im probably not going to try to fix it cause its more work that I want to do.... I have to hack off the pipe there, get a new flange and mount that up and mount the hacked up reverseY up there and then tack weld the right angle (if I can even do that.....) then pull it off and do complete weld.
Im working with the car on Jacks, so dont know if I got enough room to get that done. Would be easier with it on a lift.
Dixit
Im working with the car on Jacks, so dont know if I got enough room to get that done. Would be easier with it on a lift.
Dixit
08-19-2003, 02:41 PM
#16
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Well Im probably not going to try to fix it cause its more work that I want to do.... I have to hack off the pipe there, get a new flange and mount that up and mount the hacked up reverseY up there and then tack weld the right angle (if I can even do that.....) then pull it off and do complete weld.
Im working with the car on Jacks, so dont know if I got enough room to get that done. Would be easier with it on a lift.
Dixit
Well Im probably not going to try to fix it cause its more work that I want to do.... I have to hack off the pipe there, get a new flange and mount that up and mount the hacked up reverseY up there and then tack weld the right angle (if I can even do that.....) then pull it off and do complete weld.
Im working with the car on Jacks, so dont know if I got enough room to get that done. Would be easier with it on a lift.
Dixit
08-22-2003, 01:48 PM
#23
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
But a turbo from Hal and you can be there in days.
Dixit
But a turbo from Hal and you can be there in days.
Dixit
Going NX until the powertrain warranty dies, then custom turbo piping+NX.
08-22-2003, 01:55 PM
#24
Good deal. Im probably going to upgrade this to the same one Erik and Kev have (turbo).
But then again why bother, thats what the crotchrocket is for. 1/4 in 10.5sec. And that feeling of going to 75+ in 1st gear? shiet.............
Turbo and NX? what you going to be shooting? like a 35wet shot? What turbo you looking at? And yes Ive been following your threads on the injector issue, I want to push this above 10-12psi but obviously the injectors are the main issue here.
Dixit
But then again why bother, thats what the crotchrocket is for. 1/4 in 10.5sec. And that feeling of going to 75+ in 1st gear? shiet.............
Turbo and NX? what you going to be shooting? like a 35wet shot? What turbo you looking at? And yes Ive been following your threads on the injector issue, I want to push this above 10-12psi but obviously the injectors are the main issue here.
Dixit
08-22-2003, 02:01 PM
#25
Originally posted by BigDogJonx
Good deal. Im probably going to upgrade this to the same one Erik and Kev have (turbo).
But then again why bother, thats what the crotchrocket is for. 1/4 in 10.5sec. And that feeling of going to 75+ in 1st gear? shiet.............
Turbo and NX? what you going to be shooting? like a 35wet shot? What turbo you looking at? And yes Ive been following your threads on the injector issue, I want to push this above 10-12psi but obviously the injectors are the main issue here.
Dixit
Good deal. Im probably going to upgrade this to the same one Erik and Kev have (turbo).
But then again why bother, thats what the crotchrocket is for. 1/4 in 10.5sec. And that feeling of going to 75+ in 1st gear? shiet.............
Turbo and NX? what you going to be shooting? like a 35wet shot? What turbo you looking at? And yes Ive been following your threads on the injector issue, I want to push this above 10-12psi but obviously the injectors are the main issue here.
Dixit
I'm sticking with a T3/T4 or GT-series equivalent. No need for T4 BS. I'll never use its potential.
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