CustomMaxima TURBO!!
08-29-2003, 06:13 AM
#1
CustomMaxima TURBO!!
i hope yall have seen this. yall are getting a sick a$$ turbo from custommaxima, look at what it does:
"Stage 1 kit was dynoed on a stock 1999 manual transmission Maxima with a Greddy Cat-Back exhaust and produced 305 horsepower at the wheels with 6psi of boost. The stage 2 kit will be dynoed soon, we are expecting an additional 80+ horsepower over Stage 1.."
"Stage 1 kit was dynoed on a stock 1999 manual transmission Maxima with a Greddy Cat-Back exhaust and produced 305 horsepower at the wheels with 6psi of boost. The stage 2 kit will be dynoed soon, we are expecting an additional 80+ horsepower over Stage 1.."
08-29-2003, 06:18 AM
#2
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Join Date: May 2003
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Thats made crazy on our maxima's. I just wish the price was a little lower but its worth it for 305 HP at the wheels.
08-29-2003, 08:34 AM
#6
How come redmax put down 230 to the wheels at 6.5psi??? Where is the dyno slip?
I call a big load of bull**** on that one, OR they are calling crank numbers their wheel numbers because it's theoritically impossibly to have 305whp on just 6psi with a 2.5" catback.
Sorry, but like everything else custommaxima says, I call bs.
I call a big load of bull**** on that one, OR they are calling crank numbers their wheel numbers because it's theoritically impossibly to have 305whp on just 6psi with a 2.5" catback.
Sorry, but like everything else custommaxima says, I call bs.
08-29-2003, 09:11 AM
#7
Originally posted by thebigsadler
How come redmax put down 230 to the wheels at 6.5psi??? Where is the dyno slip?
I call a big load of bull**** on that one, OR they are calling crank numbers their wheel numbers because it's theoritically impossibly to have 305whp on just 6psi with a 2.5" catback.
Sorry, but like everything else custommaxima says, I call bs.
How come redmax put down 230 to the wheels at 6.5psi??? Where is the dyno slip?
I call a big load of bull**** on that one, OR they are calling crank numbers their wheel numbers because it's theoritically impossibly to have 305whp on just 6psi with a 2.5" catback.
Sorry, but like everything else custommaxima says, I call bs.
Dyno:
http://www.custommaxima.com/Turbo.php
Jason.
08-29-2003, 09:26 AM
#9
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Since when does HKS make the S-afc 2 ? 
08-29-2003, 09:43 AM
#11
Originally posted by thebigsadler
what the hell is that???? thats made in illustrator or photoshop, why does it stop at 95mph and that dyno looks like someone would be spraying if that is a real run.
what the hell is that???? thats made in illustrator or photoshop, why does it stop at 95mph and that dyno looks like someone would be spraying if that is a real run.
Jason, I'd really be interested in seeing your dyno. Could you post it?
I was gonna say the same thing when I saw that dyno yeasterday, but didn't want to start any drama...not too professional looking at all IMO
08-29-2003, 09:59 AM
#14
Originally posted by thebigsadler
http://www.custommaxima.com/images/Turbo/TurboDyno.jpg
what the hell is that???? thats made in illustrator or photoshop, why does it stop at 95mph and that dyno looks like someone would be spraying if that is a real run.
http://www.custommaxima.com/images/Turbo/TurboDyno.jpg
what the hell is that???? thats made in illustrator or photoshop, why does it stop at 95mph and that dyno looks like someone would be spraying if that is a real run.
08-29-2003, 10:32 AM
#15
I will try to get the dyno plot for jason either today or sometime over the weekend. At the time of his runs, the shop's network card was messed up so he couldn't transfer the dyno plots from the computer hooked up to the dyno to the printer.
BTW, aren't manuals supposed to dyno in 4th gear? And the auto in 3rd? All of jason's runs were done in 4th since that is what everyone says and my dyno guy says that most of the time he dynos manual cars in 4th. Would 3rd lead to an inflated number since it's not 1:1 and there would be more torque multiplication in that gear resulting in a higher dyno reading? If what i just said made no sense, forgive me. I'm not an expert on dyno runs.
BTW, aren't manuals supposed to dyno in 4th gear? And the auto in 3rd? All of jason's runs were done in 4th since that is what everyone says and my dyno guy says that most of the time he dynos manual cars in 4th. Would 3rd lead to an inflated number since it's not 1:1 and there would be more torque multiplication in that gear resulting in a higher dyno reading? If what i just said made no sense, forgive me. I'm not an expert on dyno runs.
Originally posted by Stephen Max
That is a pretty funky looking dyno plot, and 305 fwhp is more in line with what 9 psi would produce.
Jason, I'd really be interested in seeing your dyno. Could you post it?
That is a pretty funky looking dyno plot, and 305 fwhp is more in line with what 9 psi would produce.
Jason, I'd really be interested in seeing your dyno. Could you post it?
08-29-2003, 01:04 PM
#18
Originally posted by Y2KevSE
Autos.
Manuals use 4th gear because it's the closest gear to a 1:1 ratio.
3rd gear and 4th gear dyno differences on a manual are minimal, IME, since the ratios are very close to 1:1 anyway.
Autos.
Manuals use 4th gear because it's the closest gear to a 1:1 ratio.
3rd gear and 4th gear dyno differences on a manual are minimal, IME, since the ratios are very close to 1:1 anyway.
08-29-2003, 02:35 PM
#20
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You guys wish you had My turbo kit. It makes 501fwhp @ 6psi.
09-01-2003, 02:31 PM
#24
Originally Posted by MAXIN
redmax is an auto.
lol at that 501hp dyno plot...
lol at that 501hp dyno plot...
and that dyno plat is HILARIOUS!!!
09-02-2003, 06:19 PM
#25
3rd gear, 4th gear, who gives a sheit!
As long as it's 3rd-to-3rd, 4th-to-4th gear, it doesn't matter UNLESS you are comparing to A DIFFERENT DRIVETRAIN vehicle.
I'd stick with 3rd, since it's plenty consistent, less stressful, and less heat/heat soak raping out 100mph then 125 or so.
Stick to THIRD!
As long as it's 3rd-to-3rd, 4th-to-4th gear, it doesn't matter UNLESS you are comparing to A DIFFERENT DRIVETRAIN vehicle.
I'd stick with 3rd, since it's plenty consistent, less stressful, and less heat/heat soak raping out 100mph then 125 or so.
Stick to THIRD!
09-02-2003, 08:31 PM
#27
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
3rd gear, 4th gear, who gives a sheit!
As long as it's 3rd-to-3rd, 4th-to-4th gear, it doesn't matter UNLESS you are comparing to A DIFFERENT DRIVETRAIN vehicle.
I'd stick with 3rd, since it's plenty consistent, less stressful, and less heat/heat soak raping out 100mph then 125 or so.
Stick to THIRD!
As long as it's 3rd-to-3rd, 4th-to-4th gear, it doesn't matter UNLESS you are comparing to A DIFFERENT DRIVETRAIN vehicle.
I'd stick with 3rd, since it's plenty consistent, less stressful, and less heat/heat soak raping out 100mph then 125 or so.
Stick to THIRD!
Realistically I could do a 2nd gear dyno pull and put down over 400whp the way things are going.
09-03-2003, 06:46 AM
#28
this guy was the first with CM's kit, and he dynoed 225hp at 5psi.....
edit: scroll up for "maxgtrblue"...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....25#post2288331
edit: scroll up for "maxgtrblue"...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....25#post2288331
09-03-2003, 07:55 AM
#29
Originally Posted by MAXIN
this guy was the first with CM's kit, and he dynoed 225hp at 5psi.....
edit: scroll up for "maxgtrblue"...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....25#post2288331
edit: scroll up for "maxgtrblue"...
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread....25#post2288331
my kit runs 30whp more, still on stock exhaust (worse than stock actually), etc etc etc.. at 5psi.
09-03-2003, 08:10 AM
#31
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
with nigel's numbers corrected his kit is at about the same number, maybe about 3-5hp off. fyi, redmax hit 230whp at 6.5psi.
my kit runs 30whp more, still on stock exhaust (worse than stock actually), etc etc etc.. at 5psi.
my kit runs 30whp more, still on stock exhaust (worse than stock actually), etc etc etc.. at 5psi.
09-03-2003, 08:18 AM
#32
Different spec turbo, different piping setup (though they are all similar), different placement of components, different intercooler, ceramic coated exhaust/feed pipes (instead of high temp spray paint) better tuning.
Jason's car made 20 or 21 dyno runs in one day during tuning. All back to back, very little cool down time in between. Lowest number was 249 whp, highest was 256 whp. So the number is valid and not a fluke.
Jason's car made 20 or 21 dyno runs in one day during tuning. All back to back, very little cool down time in between. Lowest number was 249 whp, highest was 256 whp. So the number is valid and not a fluke.
Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Why does your kit produce more power at less boost pressure?
09-04-2003, 09:54 AM
#34
Jason is correct, my car put down 235hp and 252tq at 6 psi which i was not happy about. I have a t04b turbo on my car. I have a built auto tranny which has about the same drivetrain loss as a manual. My car was dynoed at 110 degrees inside the place so the place said I should have put down better numbers. However the guy who dynoed his car and got the 305fwh is using a t04e. I called the turbo fabricator myself because i didn't believe these numbers myself, but they confirmed them. Don't quote me but i believe they also said this guys got bigger injectors. I wish i could have dynoed my car on a cooler day but, the engine blew the next day. We are researching now but i think my car leaned out at 125mph and detonated which caused the head gasket to blow and the engine to throw a rod. But we will be more sure of that by next week.
09-04-2003, 11:40 AM
#35
Originally Posted by Redmax
Jason is correct, my car put down 235hp and 252tq at 6 psi which i was not happy about. I have a t04b turbo on my car. I have a built auto tranny which has about the same drivetrain loss as a manual. My car was dynoed at 110 degrees inside the place so the place said I should have put down better numbers. However the guy who dynoed his car and got the 305fwh is using a t04e. I called the turbo fabricator myself because i didn't believe these numbers myself, but they confirmed them. Don't quote me but i believe they also said this guys got bigger injectors. I wish i could have dynoed my car on a cooler day but, the engine blew the next day. We are researching now but i think my car leaned out at 125mph and detonated which caused the head gasket to blow and the engine to throw a rod. But we will be more sure of that by next week.
Let me know how things turn out with building the engine, hopefully that beast will be back up and running asap.
09-04-2003, 12:05 PM
#36
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
You have to understand the powerband on a 3rd gear pull, it doesn't give you a realistic number because it doesnt factor in lengthening out the power.
Realistically I could do a 2nd gear dyno pull and put down over 400whp the way things are going.
Realistically I could do a 2nd gear dyno pull and put down over 400whp the way things are going.
Yes, it does. 1/4-mile slips are using 3rd gear along with NUMEROUS dynos. It's all about repeatability. Either a 3rd or 4th gear pull will allow enough data to be gathered. Yes, a 2nd gear pull would be too short to gather enough points to get an overall picture of the engines powerband.
Stick to 3rd....UNLESS you're trying to compare your dyno numbers with Supras, Mustangs, whatever....it really doesn't matter.
09-04-2003, 01:19 PM
#37
I have never in my life heard of people dyno'ing in 3rd gear.. think about logically, the powerband is shorter and stronger therefore throwing the numbers higher. How else do you think he could make 305whp at 5psi???!! That's damn near imposssssible i am sorry.
09-04-2003, 01:33 PM
#38
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
I have never in my life heard of people dyno'ing in 3rd gear.. think about logically, the powerband is shorter and stronger therefore throwing the numbers higher. How else do you think he could make 305whp at 5psi???!! That's damn near imposssssible i am sorry.
Again, 3rd gear will inflate the torque and deflate the hp vs. 4th gear, HOWEVER there is more then enough powerband data to see the valid trends of hp/tq.
4th gear is a waste of fuel, heat soak, and engine stress, when comparing Maxima vs. Maxima plots.
09-04-2003, 09:33 PM
#39
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
I don't care to search through the dyno forum, but if you really care to argue you can be shown the light.
Again, 3rd gear will inflate the torque and deflate the hp vs. 4th gear, HOWEVER there is more then enough powerband data to see the valid trends of hp/tq.
4th gear is a waste of fuel, heat soak, and engine stress, when comparing Maxima vs. Maxima plots.
Again, 3rd gear will inflate the torque and deflate the hp vs. 4th gear, HOWEVER there is more then enough powerband data to see the valid trends of hp/tq.
4th gear is a waste of fuel, heat soak, and engine stress, when comparing Maxima vs. Maxima plots.
and secondly, 3rd gear will inflate everything, not just torque, think about it... it's different from automatics to 5spds.
4th gear pulls arent a waste of anything when they are done correctly..
You can tell me where you get your dyno knowledge from and what car that person drives and what numbers they put down and then I can "show you the light" with the information on my personal experience..
09-05-2003, 12:01 AM
#40
Originally Posted by thebigsadler
First off, are you getting ****ed off because I am stating my own points?? You need to chill out man, I was simply trying to state my knowledge... I don't see you owning a dyno or even ever dyno'ing your car regularly so why do you think you could "show me the light?"
You don't know what cars I have or haven't dynoed, but I was referring to "I have never in my life heard of people dyno'ing in 3rd gear" and the dynos I've seen on this board. Since you asked:
Bone stock 1995 Maxima SE 5-spd right down to the tires.
Dyno was done in 3rd as well as 4th gear with the results being within 1-2 HP of each other. This graph is for the one in 3rd gear.
Dyno was done in 3rd as well as 4th gear with the results being within 1-2 HP of each other. This graph is for the one in 3rd gear.
Another 3rd gear dyno:
http://images.cardomain.com/installs...77_13_full.jpg
There ARE more, but I don't care to look.
and secondly, 3rd gear will inflate everything, not just torque, think about it... it's different from automatics to 5spds.
4th gear pulls arent a waste of anything when they are done correctly..
You can tell me where you get your dyno knowledge from and what car that person drives and what numbers they put down and then I can "show you the light" with the information on my personal experience..