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Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:25 AM
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Look what finally showed up at my door...

Yeah, this was gonna be for the max... but then I sold the damn car, its still sweet anyway...




So sweet...
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Sweet, What size turbo is that?
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:45 AM
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It is a garret GT3040R wet ball bearing (i think all the GT's are wet). Basically, It is a t3/t04s with a .82 backside, but I forget what the frontside is. It has a Garret stage 1 housing (the only housing that fits the GT series wheel, which is kind of weak considering that it is setup for a 5 bolt [read: internal gate], but I have the blockout plate). This should easily support 625 HP... I spring for the ceramic coating and the polishing option. It looks so sweet. My only gripe is that its a 5 bolt. But its not a big deal.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:55 AM
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What are you going to do with it if you sold your max?
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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this is on its way to me right now, its in arizona as we speak...

http://www.eng.buffalo.edu/~ctnewman/RB26DETT1.jpg
and this is in my garage...
http://www.eng.buffalo.edu/~ctnewman/nomotor.JPG
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 09:55 AM
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Cool, that is going to be sweet!!!!!!!!!
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Is that a 240?
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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yes it is.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:36 PM
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My friend has been in a 240 with a RB. He said it was very violent. I think the RB has like 600 hp. He said he would never ride in it again. He said the car felt like it was going to fall apart.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:39 PM
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My friend has been in a 240 with a RB. He said it was very violent. I think the RB has like 600 hp. He said he would never ride in it again. He said the car felt like it was going to fall apart.
Exactly, cant wait until it is done. I hate cars that are fast but feel like luxury cars... thats kinda the reason that the max got the boot, well that and the fact that it weighed a million pounds and was front wheel drive.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 07:40 PM
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whats an RB?
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:02 PM
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on_alert if you ever need parts for that thing. let me know.. dealer i work with has been deep in sr20 det parts both oem and after market.

we will soon be stocking rb parts as well.
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by luckee2bhere
whats an RB?
RB = Nissan skyline motor with comes in different setups
RB20det= single turbo from a gt-st
RB26dett= twin turbo from a gtr
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:21 PM
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good luck on the swap man i heard its a pain in the @ss compaired to the rb20det swap
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by pawnstar12
RB = Nissan skyline motor with comes in different setups
RB20det= single turbo from a gt-st
RB26dett= twin turbo from a gtr

Don't forget the RB25DET
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 09:01 PM
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Originally Posted by pawnstar12
RB = Nissan skyline motor with comes in different setups
not just a Skyline motor...it was also used in n/a and turbo forms in the A31 Cefiro
Old Dec 19, 2003 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by on_alert
Exactly, cant wait until it is done. I hate cars that are fast but feel like luxury cars... thats kinda the reason that the max got the boot, well that and the fact that it weighed a million pounds and was front wheel drive.
I am just saying you are going to hate if it is your daily driver. It will ve very hard to drive on the street. I have been in Z28's and cruising at 150 and it was no problem it was so smooth. But that is a heavy car made for higher speeds. Little 240 is made for the twisties. I wouldn't trust that car over 130.
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When you are done that 240 will be a fast little *****.


Hay (luckee2bhere) the RB is the motor out of the baddest japan car ever made the SKYLINE.
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 04:08 AM
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I think the VQ is better...............
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 08:21 AM
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$$$

Originally Posted by on_alert
Yeah, this was gonna be for the max... but then I sold the damn car, its still sweet anyway...




So sweet...

How much do you want for it since your're not using it?
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by spanishrice
I think the VQ is better...............

In some respects it is...but in my book, an inline-6 is still better than a V6 anyday...again, just personal opinions (able to handle more power and stuff..easier to boost, etc.)

What makes you like the VQ more? (just curious)
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 10:11 AM
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Originally Posted by spanishrice
I think the VQ is better...............
Then, no offense dude, you really dont know anything about motors.

closed deck > open deck <-definitely the biggest advantage
rb block said to support 2400 HP... VQ block... 500 maybe?
RB Stock internals can handle >700 WHP
RB = Tons of aftermarket support, VQ... I spent 1800 on pistons and rods... about double what equal quality RB internals cost
RB is "rated" at 280 HP stock. With only a boost controller and minimal tuning 400WHP is possible...
BNR32 Tranny is AWD... (i am not making any promises with that one tho... )
I should be able to run low 11's, high 10's, and outhandle my old maxima, just for what I Paid for the max. I am at $8000 right now, including the turbo, the car and the motor.
Inline 6 > V6


Reasons why the VQ is better:
cheap and readily available.
parts for RB may take a little longer to get. (except for my VQ pistons and rods, because those took like 4 months)
Timing chain can be > timing belt (sometimes)

Im down with the VQ motor I think it is a reliable motor, good for low to moderate applications, but for larger power applications it is not practical.
Originally I was trying to have a Crazy Built VQ powered 240sx, but It would have cost a ton of money for 500 HP and I could not find a transmission that was RWD.

Oh, and Im keeping the turbo for the RB.
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 03:52 PM
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Originally I was trying to have a Crazy Built VQ powered 240sx, but It would have cost a ton of money for 500 HP and I could not find a transmission that was RWD.

i thought i read a 350Z 6speed will bolt up to a VQ
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 04:20 PM
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I think I had talked to mardi, and he said that there was none, then I talked to some nissan techs who said the 350Z block and the vq35 block were different. They may not have been accurate, but i dunno...
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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They're gonna be different castings for RWD platforms just like the VQ30DET won't just bolt into a Max. The car needs different mounts so I'm sure the tranny will not bolt up. The RB is still a tough install but much better than trying to cram a V6 in there. If you wanted to do that, you'd be better off just starting w/ a 350Z.
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 05:45 PM
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The VG30DETT is better than the RB26DETT, in my opinion. It also holds all of Nissan's records for drag racing, top speed, etc. I've even heard of a guy pushing 2,000 hp plus on the stock crank! : All of these reasons could be because the RB wasn't sold here so it hasn't been modded near as much as the VG but the VG is still and damn good engine for a V6. The VG30DETT should also put out some more torque due to the higher displacement.
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
The VG30DETT is better than the RB26DETT, in my opinion. It also holds all of Nissan's records for drag racing, top speed, etc. I've even heard of a guy pushing 2,000 hp plus on the stock crank! : All of these reasons could be because the RB wasn't sold here so it hasn't been modded near as much as the VG but the VG is still and damn good engine for a V6. The VG30DETT should also put out some more torque due to the higher displacement.
Ok your entitled to your opinion, but the RB not modded as much. It is one of the most modded engines in japan aside from the 2JZ-GTE supra motor. Its just like you said ture the RB wasnt sold here but in japan it has a ton of aftermarket support there, but getting that stuff here to the states is a pain and takes a while. And actually the RB puts down more torque cause it is an inline six.
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I have seen some crazy in car videos of skylines, once those things get above 5500 rpm, they never stop accelerating.
Old Dec 20, 2003 | 08:48 PM
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You guys keep saying the RB is a tough install, when it really isnt. You just bolt in the Skyline crossmember. The only hard parts are:
Since I am using the RB26 tranny, the passenger side floor needs to be modified slightly. Then I just have to make a single turbo manifold, which is easy. OR, since I also have a 180sx clip coming, I may just cut the firewall out and swap dashes and make it RHD, because then both turbos will fit. Either way, I have all winter and plenty of ambition.

ALSO: Does anyone have a maxima strut, knuckle and control arm that I can have (ill pay shipping) I want to experiment to see If I can get a FWD setup on there... PM me if you do please.

I will keep you guys updated on it if anyone is interested.
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 08:59 AM
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FWD? ahhhhhhhh
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Man you sold your max for a 240!?
sorry to hear that.
I dont understand why a 500hp car isnt enough? Will you be racing the 240 on the tracks for money? Because I don't know any 4 door sedans that have 500whp. I don't think the 240 will be any cheaper in modifying, your just going to have a cheaper car.
It's all good though your car will handle better and be more of a sports car.
Good luck with everything!
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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RB26, huh? Good choice. You can use both turbos and keep it LHD if you want. We're not a big fan of the 26DETT gearbox. We prefer the 25DET.

As far as engines, we definitely prefer the VH45. These are pictures of the testfit in a donated RHD rolling chassis.









320HP N/A. We're working in conjunction with a New Zealand shop. We are about to mate it to a VG30DETT gearbox. Our goal is to use all USDM parts. RB's and SR's are great. We've had an RB25 and SR20 in 2 previous 240's... But we need more power.

We've already put one in a friends 240Z. It's one of the best blocks Nissan makes. We debated the VK45DE, but it's too expensive, too intertwined with sensors, and drive by wire. Too much of a pain in the @$$.

I wish I could put one in the Max... Ohwell. Maybe the VQ35 sometime soon.
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NICE!!! thats tha first time I've seen a VH45 swapped inot anything! man oh man...

Originally Posted by AgaricX
RB26, huh? Good choice. You can use both turbos and keep it LHD if you want. We're not a big fan of the 26DETT gearbox. We prefer the 25DET.

320HP N/A. We're working in conjunction with a New Zealand shop. We are about to mate it to a VG30DETT gearbox. Our goal is to use all USDM parts. RB's and SR's are great. We've had an RB25 and SR20 in 2 previous 240's... But we need more power.

We've already put one in a friends 240Z. It's one of the best blocks Nissan makes. We debated the VK45DE, but it's too expensive, too intertwined with sensors, and drive by wire. Too much of a pain in the @$$.

I wish I could put one in the Max... Ohwell. Maybe the VQ35 sometime soon.
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Thats the idea. We hope to unveil at Texas Heatwave.
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dang, i've wanted to use that engine in a lot of swaps before. that would be sweet. nice job!
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Thanks! I don't want to hijack the thread, though. It's the most difficult re-power we've done. It technically doesn't fit... but it does now.

Just in case you care... we will put twin snails on it. It REALLY wants them. We threw together the exhaust setup to judge fitment problems with the tunnel.
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 07:11 PM
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Thats sweet dude, definitely a stuffed fit there!
Definitely looks sweet. I know I can keep it LHD and twin if I really want to ( i think mckinney even has a bolt in mount kit), but I am just going to go with the flow and see how things work out with that.

As far as downgrading to a 240, The max was good for cruising and whatnot, but if i dumped a ton of loot into it, it would still be a 500HP FWD tank... I really wanted something sportier, and not super common. There arent many RB26 swaps in the US but there will be soon I am sure... they seem to be picking up alot of speed in the last couple years. Im sure Ill get sick of this car by next year or two anyway, I remember when I got my maxima, I said I would keep it forever... then I sold it after a year and a half...
Old Dec 21, 2003 | 07:30 PM
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I know of about 10 RB26 full twin swaps. IT's sill uber-rare. Good luck. If you need any tips, PM me. It's not too bad of a swap. Are you going to snag a Haltech E11?

I find that the Max is VERY nimble. It's as nimble as ANY Fbody or Mustang I've been in. Just wish it was RWD.
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Damn I wish I was an aggie right now. Haha, I want to go see that car. There is someone else doing the same swap into a newer style silvia. I am not sure what transmission they are going to use though. They posted it on houston-imports.com
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Originally Posted by on_alert
ALSO: Does anyone have a maxima strut, knuckle and control arm that I can have (ill pay shipping) I want to experiment to see If I can get a FWD setup on there... PM me if you do please.
I should know the fate of my Mom's car today...I'll IM you or something.



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