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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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Boosted SHO(Video)....

http://www.shocago.com/staff/video/Timsturbosho.wmv

check out this vid. Pretty sick Ford SHO!
HOw would a turbo'd max compare to this thing??
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:25 PM
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oh yea that dyno'd 383whp.
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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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It depends on what is done to the turbo Max and how it is set up. I think it is safe to say that Hal would rip that thing a new one, but there are some turbo guys that would get ripped by it. I think mod for mod the Max should come out on top.

BTW: Looks like that stang was ripping him apart, he even panned the camera away a few times...hehe.
Old Jan 8, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Looks like he dropped in the 24-valve motor in there too. That's not a bad SHO, but like dmontz said, mod for mod, I think it wouldn't do as well as a Max. Also sounds like he has to wait a little bit to spool up that turbo.

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Old Jan 8, 2004 | 09:08 PM
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Wow, awesome vid! I used to own a 1993 SHO but it was an auto. I liked that V6 a lot, it was smooth and it had a nice sound to it. This thing seems to accelerate harder from 100-130. Only problem with SHO's...I can't imagine how often a TC SHO must break because my stock one always had something wrong.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 12:41 AM
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Originally Posted by dmontzmax
BTW: Looks like that stang was ripping him apart, he even panned the camera away a few times...hehe.

Hehe, I could see the cobra emblem on his quarter panel.

I didn't hear a BOV either. Even during the Dyno with the hood up. Seems strange to go to all the trouble boosting and tuning a SHO without adding one.

That vid was all show.

I know...
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:07 PM
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Humm.... sounds fast, but it doesnt look fast. Sounds like Hals maxima.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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Well the sho starts out at 220hp?
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by dmontzmax
I think it is safe to say that Hal would rip that thing a new one
Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
Sounds like Hals maxima.
and its a taurus, it goes in the neon category:

(someone already touched on their reliability so I wont)
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by maximase86
Looks like he dropped in the 24-valve motor in there too. That's not a bad SHO, but like dmontz said, mod for mod, I think it wouldn't do as well as a Max. Also sounds like he has to wait a little bit to spool up that turbo.

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Well duh...all Taurus SHO's (until the 3.4L V8 version) had a Yamaha built 24 valve DOHC engine (in either 3.0 or 3.2 litre displacement).
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by hlh0501
and its a taurus, it goes in the neon category:

(someone already touched on their reliability so I wont)

There are plenty of people who look at the Maxima in the same way that people here look upon domestics. They are both good cars...the Taurus SHO was pretty ahead of the game for it's time (back in 1989)...
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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The Taurus SHO had a motor that was ahead of the game... made by yamaha. The rest of the car, was far below par.

I said the thing about the taurus being in the neon category because it is a commonly ragged on car, used as a negative "might as well have a taurus" or "yuck that looks like a taurus".. Seems as though most people don't hate on the maxima like that. They don't expect them to be fast, but that isn't what I was trying to say.
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There are plenty of people who look at the Maxima in the same way that people here look upon domestics. They are both good cars...the Taurus SHO was pretty ahead of the game for it's time (back in 1989)...
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 03:50 PM
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Great engine but that's about it. Brakes were too small for the hp it had. Trannies weren't up to the task. And the rest of the car was still standard Tauras. Which was pretty bad.

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
There are plenty of people who look at the Maxima in the same way that people here look upon domestics. They are both good cars...the Taurus SHO was pretty ahead of the game for it's time (back in 1989)...
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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:o)

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Old Jan 9, 2004 | 08:32 PM
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he ran that 03 cobra. sh!tty video didnt really see him get into it w/the vette or the cobra. I ran an 03 cobra running very rich, and the only reason he pulled a car length on me is because the **** spiked. But I was neck and neck with him. That happened 3 weeks ago.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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There are some SHO's making 500+whp. The big dog SHOs are pretty comparable to the big dog Maximas.
Old Jan 9, 2004 | 11:14 PM
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i thought yamaha designed the engine and was eventually built by ford...?
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:38 AM
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Originally Posted by mtcookson
i thought yamaha designed the engine and was eventually built by ford...?
Ford detuned it from what I recall, Yamaha had made the motor to strong.

That said the camera man needs to take lessons (you don't have to do a full zoom on the car next to you :cough cobra :cough: ), I call BS on the race against the Lightning no way is their car going to pull on one like that (03 Ford F-150 STX ) that was a ricer move on the Z06 and the 03 Cobra was stomping him (what was the point of those two scenes when they didn't even race or show the race ) Great engine, ugly car, and two dorks riding in it, I am still trying to figure out the point of that vid
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I call BS on the race against the Lightning no way is their car going to pull on one like that (03 Ford F-150 STX )
What? A stock 03 lightning is good for aout 13.5 @ 101 at best, more like 13.7 @ 97 for an average one. That SHO putting down 383 whp is putting down about 30-50 whp more than a stock lightning, and weighs about 1600lbs less, not to mention the lightning has the aerodynamics of a brick. That SHO is probably good for 12.5 @ 115 (15-20mph faster than the lightning, not to mention the SHO will be gaining big MPH in the last 1/8th mile, whereas the lightning won't be gaining much in the last 1/8th), not to mention the fact that racing from a roll is severely to the lightning's disadvantage (brick aerodynamics) and the yamaha motor is a highway runner in stock form even. Add a turbo and 180whp and that's what will happen when you match a stock lightning against that SHO.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by JAY25
he ran that 03 cobra. sh!tty video didnt really see him get into it w/the vette or the cobra. I ran an 03 cobra running very rich, and the only reason he pulled a car length on me is because the **** spiked. But I was neck and neck with him. That happened 3 weeks ago.
:redneck mustang voice: His car really "scoots" :redneck mustang voice
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
What? A stock 03 lightning is good for aout 13.5 @ 101 at best, more like 13.7 @ 97 for an average one. That SHO putting down 383 whp is putting down about 30-50 whp more than a stock lightning, and weighs about 1600lbs less, not to mention the lightning has the aerodynamics of a brick. That SHO is probably good for 12.5 @ 115 (15-20mph faster than the lightning, not to mention the SHO will be gaining big MPH in the last 1/8th mile, whereas the lightning won't be gaining much in the last 1/8th), not to mention the fact that racing from a roll is severely to the lightning's disadvantage (brick aerodynamics) and the yamaha motor is a highway runner in stock form even. Add a turbo and 180whp and that's what will happen when you match a stock lightning against that SHO.
I'm with neal and hal on this. My oldest brother has a 94 3.2 SHO as a toy car. The motor is strong and WAY ahead of it's time back in '89, it has a better variable intake system than the VI imho and with that being said it is a highway runner, interior is crap, and it was quicker than the Mustang GT for a few years there. Not that the mustang at that time was all that fast, but back then a four door sedan in that class whooping up on a mustang GT was a BIG feat.
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Well the sho starts out at 220hp?
and even more torque=232-234lb.-ft. iirc
Old Jan 10, 2004 | 09:30 PM
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Up to 2003, the Maxima is the Japanese SHO, staying ahead of everyone. The big difference being quality and handling. In 1995, the Maxima was the quickest 4 door sedan. After 1995, Ford just screwed up the SHO. I don't even consider the 96-99's as an SHO.

The SHO just had amazing pick-up from 80 mph on. I can't tell you how many mustangs I took out on I-57 in IL going from 80 on. I even kept up with a Cobra that had the 4.6L, 305 hp. He very, very slowly pulled. I also raced a 4th gen Maxima from 80-135 and only ended up about 1 car ahead, and they had 2 more people in it which got me interested in Maximas. I used the overdrive button on my SHO. By turning off overdrive, I could run third gear from 80 all the way to 133mph @ 7,000 rpm before turning it on and shifting into 4th, and it pulled like crazy all the way. I could even turn it off at 115, and it would downshift. It was great. I miss the sound of that engine, but I am definetely more satisfied with the Max. Better overall performance, NO MORE BREAKDOWNS, and I get an extra 100-150 miles on a tank of gas!
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Originally Posted by abradic
I used the overdrive button on my SHO. By turning off overdrive, I could run third gear from 80 all the way to 133mph @ 7,000 rpm before turning it on and shifting into 4th, and it pulled like crazy all the way. I could even turn it off at 115, and it would downshift. It was great. I miss the sound of that engine, but I am definetely more satisfied with the Max. Better overall performance, NO MORE BREAKDOWNS, and I get an extra 100-150 miles on a tank of gas!
you could do that because that auto tranny is only a 4spd, and yes it get's terrible gas mileage
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Originally Posted by CullenJ76
and even more torque=232-234lb.-ft. iirc
200 ft/lbs
Old Jan 13, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
What? A stock 03 lightning is good for aout 13.5 @ 101 at best, more like 13.7 @ 97 for an average one.
Really? I thought for sure that Lightnings were in the 12s right off the showroom floor. But I can't remember where I got that information from. Probably my teenage son.
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Originally Posted by mitch33x
200 ft/lbs
oops, I was thinking about the 3.2 = 215 lb./ft.
Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Stephen Max
Really? I thought for sure that Lightnings were in the 12s right off the showroom floor. But I can't remember where I got that information from. Probably my teenage son.
yup lightnings are high 13's stock

the 03 cobra is good for high 12's off the showroom and thats a hell of alot lighter and more arow dynamic than a truck

plus i bet lightnings have traction problems
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