She's up and running good !!!!!!!!!!!!!
02-10-2004, 07:30 PM
#1
She's up and running good !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well on sunday I was determined to fix my ride.
With some help from dixit and jay, it's fixed.
ALL 3 wires to the MAF were messed up. the 2 wires form the ecu were shorted out, but checked good using a multi meter. And the 12 V power was open/broken, only seeing ~6 V.
Ran 2 wires outside the car for T/S and ran the new 12 V wire, NO vaccum leak and idles smooth as silk.
I got a few small items I need to touch up and then it's CLEAN, CLEAN, AND more CLEAN.
THANKS to .....
the locals.... dixit, jay, justin(quicksilver), bijan, eric(ramius), adam( not org member), mark(not org member), and mohamad(modiddy). With out yall I would still be stuck trying to figure out how to swap a motor.
to the members of this board for helping me try and figure out the problem.
Dyno in a few weeks @ 6 PSI stock manifold, then 8 PSI SAFC and MEVI coming in a few months.
Icy, there will be a dyno of USIM and MEVI with the EXACT same mods and PSI. This way we can all have FACTS about the intake debate, or as I like to say prove I'm right
It's getting warm again....
time for the atl boys to head back out with video cameras
With some help from dixit and jay, it's fixed.
ALL 3 wires to the MAF were messed up. the 2 wires form the ecu were shorted out, but checked good using a multi meter. And the 12 V power was open/broken, only seeing ~6 V.
Ran 2 wires outside the car for T/S and ran the new 12 V wire, NO vaccum leak and idles smooth as silk.
I got a few small items I need to touch up and then it's CLEAN, CLEAN, AND more CLEAN.
THANKS to .....
the locals.... dixit, jay, justin(quicksilver), bijan, eric(ramius), adam( not org member), mark(not org member), and mohamad(modiddy). With out yall I would still be stuck trying to figure out how to swap a motor.
to the members of this board for helping me try and figure out the problem.
Dyno in a few weeks @ 6 PSI stock manifold, then 8 PSI SAFC and MEVI coming in a few months.
Icy, there will be a dyno of USIM and MEVI with the EXACT same mods and PSI. This way we can all have FACTS about the intake debate, or as I like to say prove I'm right
It's getting warm again....
time for the atl boys to head back out with video cameras
02-10-2004, 07:58 PM
#4
Originally Posted by bags533
time for the atl boys to head back out with video cameras
x 928463294629472046294ATL is proud of ya boy!!! Great to know ATL has a lot of knowledge and good people.
the great whyte hope is back !!! glad to hear she is back.
video time
02-11-2004, 09:45 AM
#13
Kirk, that totally kicks a$$ !!! I can't wait to do some of the "filming" for you guys.
And to figure out that it was the MAF wiring that was screwed up...who thought of checking that out? I didn't even consider looking there for some reason, but I guess it's b/c the problem looked like something else. Anyway, thank God you're up and running again. Time for us to have a little BBQ!
And to figure out that it was the MAF wiring that was screwed up...who thought of checking that out? I didn't even consider looking there for some reason, but I guess it's b/c the problem looked like something else. Anyway, thank God you're up and running again. Time for us to have a little BBQ!
02-11-2004, 09:53 AM
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Dixits idea. At first we ripped off my MAF and plugged his MAF. Worked just fine on my 95 maxima. Dixit brought his OBD II and checked voltage. Not good and it was giving off wacked reading which lead to the nasty idle. Got him a new harness with plenty of wire but did not trace the wire far enough.
02-11-2004, 10:41 AM
#15
Yeap, Basically hooked up the OBDII and it told me that the MAF was reading (if I remember correct) like 266gpm of air. Which is not possible at idle. Normally it would be like 1-2gpm. And if I raise the throttle I should see it go up.
I saw it just stuck there no matter what, and thats why the ecu adjusted the injector pulse to max and thats why the car ran like ****. He was running so rich that the car idled so horribly and thats why his vacuum was at 8hg.
Even after he put in new plugs, he ran it about 12miles and those plugs were dead. Thats when we went out to get a 2nd set of plugs, but while getting there my car had problems, started smoking inside and had to pull over to fix the "issue" at hand.
I remember doing a continuity test on 2 of the MAF wires, and got nothing. So thats what made me think we need to just run a new set, even if it is just as a test. Turned out to be permanent.
Let me just say, that little tool is VERY helpful if you know how to use it to its abilities.
Dixit
I saw it just stuck there no matter what, and thats why the ecu adjusted the injector pulse to max and thats why the car ran like ****. He was running so rich that the car idled so horribly and thats why his vacuum was at 8hg.
Even after he put in new plugs, he ran it about 12miles and those plugs were dead. Thats when we went out to get a 2nd set of plugs, but while getting there my car had problems, started smoking inside and had to pull over to fix the "issue" at hand.
I remember doing a continuity test on 2 of the MAF wires, and got nothing. So thats what made me think we need to just run a new set, even if it is just as a test. Turned out to be permanent.
Let me just say, that little tool is VERY helpful if you know how to use it to its abilities.
Dixit
02-11-2004, 10:04 PM
#17
Glad to hear it bags!
Actually, my bet is MEVI@Xpsi < USIM@X+3psi. You need to CRANK UP THE BOOST~! At least 3psi, maybe 4psi.
With the USIM you'll have an extra $500 in your pocket or towards a J&S or an Aquamist 1S setup.
Originally Posted by bags533
Icy, there will be a dyno of USIM and MEVI with the EXACT same mods and PSI. This way we can all have FACTS about the intake debate, or as I like to say prove I'm right
With the USIM you'll have an extra $500 in your pocket or towards a J&S or an Aquamist 1S setup.
02-11-2004, 11:56 PM
#18
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Glad to hear it bags!
Actually, my bet is MEVI@Xpsi < USIM@X+3psi. You need to CRANK UP THE BOOST~! At least 3psi, maybe 4psi.
With the USIM you'll have an extra $500 in your pocket or towards a J&S or an Aquamist 1S setup.
Actually, my bet is MEVI@Xpsi < USIM@X+3psi. You need to CRANK UP THE BOOST~! At least 3psi, maybe 4psi.
With the USIM you'll have an extra $500 in your pocket or towards a J&S or an Aquamist 1S setup.
I understand that, I can't afford that..lol
I am gonna try and do 6 and 8 on usim and then 8 MEVI. IF there is any upper rpm loss from 6-8, it will show up. And then the 8 on MEVI will show the upper gains and lower loss. Just a good equal comparison.
I don't feel safe doing 10 PSI with out the SAFC and I aint dyno tunning 2 times..lol
However, you have me thinking about the WI and J&S... HEAVILY... Instead of a lower compression motor.
JWT ecu, 555 injectors, SAFC, TT maf, WI, J&S, and race gas make me think 14 PSI should make ~425 WHP...
I could live with that and drive daily on 8.
02-12-2004, 12:03 AM
#20
Originally Posted by BigDogJonx
Yeap, Basically hooked up the OBDII and it told me that the MAF was reading (if I remember correct) like 266gpm of air. Which is not possible at idle. Normally it would be like 1-2gpm. And if I raise the throttle I should see it go up.
I saw it just stuck there no matter what, and thats why the ecu adjusted the injector pulse to max and thats why the car ran like ****. He was running so rich that the car idled so horribly and thats why his vacuum was at 8hg.
Even after he put in new plugs, he ran it about 12miles and those plugs were dead. Thats when we went out to get a 2nd set of plugs, but while getting there my car had problems, started smoking inside and had to pull over to fix the "issue" at hand.
I remember doing a continuity test on 2 of the MAF wires, and got nothing. So thats what made me think we need to just run a new set, even if it is just as a test. Turned out to be permanent.
Let me just say, that little tool is VERY helpful if you know how to use it to its abilities.
Dixit
I saw it just stuck there no matter what, and thats why the ecu adjusted the injector pulse to max and thats why the car ran like ****. He was running so rich that the car idled so horribly and thats why his vacuum was at 8hg.
Even after he put in new plugs, he ran it about 12miles and those plugs were dead. Thats when we went out to get a 2nd set of plugs, but while getting there my car had problems, started smoking inside and had to pull over to fix the "issue" at hand.
I remember doing a continuity test on 2 of the MAF wires, and got nothing. So thats what made me think we need to just run a new set, even if it is just as a test. Turned out to be permanent.
Let me just say, that little tool is VERY helpful if you know how to use it to its abilities.
Dixit
Crazy that I killed a set of plugs in under 15 miles..
THANKS DIXIT. Now I just gotta get those wires back in the car and hidden..lol
02-12-2004, 12:05 AM
#21
Originally Posted by plurco
what? I don't know what the hell you are talking about honestly I think it is because of some sort of mental corelation between the s and the 33.
honestly I think it is because of some sort of mental corelation between the s and the 33.It's cool.. EVERYONE does it..lol
Thanks bijan
02-12-2004, 07:39 AM
#22
Originally Posted by bags533
I understand that, I can't afford that..lol
I am gonna try and do 6 and 8 on usim and then 8 MEVI. IF there is any upper rpm loss from 6-8, it will show up. And then the 8 on MEVI will show the upper gains and lower loss. Just a good equal comparison.
I don't feel safe doing 10 PSI with out the SAFC and I aint dyno tunning 2 times..lol
However, you have me thinking about the WI and J&S... HEAVILY... Instead of a lower compression motor.
I am gonna try and do 6 and 8 on usim and then 8 MEVI. IF there is any upper rpm loss from 6-8, it will show up. And then the 8 on MEVI will show the upper gains and lower loss. Just a good equal comparison.
I don't feel safe doing 10 PSI with out the SAFC and I aint dyno tunning 2 times..lol
However, you have me thinking about the WI and J&S... HEAVILY... Instead of a lower compression motor.
If 8psi is your limit, I'd try these:
1)USIM at 8psi
2)MEVI at 5psi<~~~maybe even 4psi
3)MEVI at 8psi
Lower compression is the SAFEST way for high boost on pump gas, however low CR internals are expensive especially compared to the relatively cheap junkyard VQ. It all depends on what whp/wtq goals you have. The J&S Safeguard and Aquamist system will allow you to find the extreme limit of the stock VQ internals, however whether that limit is enough for you, I don't know.
JWT ecu, 555 injectors, SAFC, TT maf, WI, J&S, and race gas make me think 14 PSI should make ~425 WHP...
I could live with that and drive daily on 8.
I could live with that and drive daily on 8.
02-12-2004, 09:38 AM
#25
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
If 8psi is your limit, I'd try these:
1)USIM at 8psi
2)MEVI at 5psi<~~~maybe even 4psi
3)MEVI at 8psi
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
:
Lower compression is the SAFEST way for high boost on pump gas, however low CR internals are expensive especially compared to the relatively cheap junkyard VQ. It all depends on what whp/wtq goals you have. The J&S Safeguard and Aquamist system will allow you to find the extreme limit of the stock VQ internals, however whether that limit is enough for you, I don't know.:
Lower compression is the SAFEST way for high boost on pump gas, however low CR internals are expensive especially compared to the relatively cheap junkyard VQ. It all depends on what whp/wtq goals you have. The J&S Safeguard and Aquamist system will allow you to find the extreme limit of the stock VQ internals, however whether that limit is enough for you, I don't know.:
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
:
That sounds VERY reasonable IMO with the strength of the VQ, I'm pretty confident it *COULD* handle 14-15psi, maybe even slightly more, with the right tuning/detonation prevention. However, we don't know really, since no one has followed those guidelines and incrementally increased boost until the rods or other parts failed. One day, we'll see it, but for now, you'll just be playing with fire.
That sounds VERY reasonable IMO with the strength of the VQ, I'm pretty confident it *COULD* handle 14-15psi, maybe even slightly more, with the right tuning/detonation prevention. However, we don't know really, since no one has followed those guidelines and incrementally increased boost until the rods or other parts failed. One day, we'll see it, but for now, you'll just be playing with fire.
If I do it before I get married, my GF/fiance will fill me.period.
Just takes time and money. Niether of which do I have enough.
02-12-2004, 09:40 AM
#26
Originally Posted by plurco
so what about the meet Ben and I are hosting? You in?
Maybe.
The date is COOL
I just gotta be 100% that my car is running well enough to be on the track and then run the 150 miles home.
02-12-2004, 12:51 PM
#27
Originally Posted by bags533
Maybe.
The date is COOL
I just gotta be 100% that my car is running well enough to be on the track and then run the 150 miles home.
The date is COOL
I just gotta be 100% that my car is running well enough to be on the track and then run the 150 miles home.
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