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30.5x8x3 SPEARCO intercooler -CORRECT SIZE??

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Old 02-22-2004, 07:31 PM
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30.5x8x3 SPEARCO intercooler -CORRECT SIZE??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

Is this a correctly sized intercooler for a custom turbo setup im planning to do?
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Old 02-22-2004, 07:52 PM
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30.5 inches in width will fit, but you will loose your OEM foglights. 8 inches in hight will hit the bumper re-inforcement. You may have to notch out the bumper re-inforcement for the added hight or loose the whole unit all togather. 3 inches in depth is fine, no problem there.. Hope that helps.


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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

Is this a correctly sized intercooler for a custom turbo setup im planning to do?
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That's basically the size of thebigsadler's IC. Similar bottom inlets so I'd say it'd fit about the same. If you go back and look at the buildup pics on that you'll see that it is on the wide end of the spectrum and difficult to fit under a bumper support. You'll end up hacking away most of it so the IC doesn't hang down too low. It's possible but a big waste under a factory bumper cover since most of it will be covered.

The factory front opening is about 24" wide so you could fill the entire front end w/ it given you align it properly.
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Originally Posted by jkklim
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...category=33742

Is this a correctly sized intercooler for a custom turbo setup im planning to do?


Are you worried about the fitment or the that it won't cool the air?

Or are you worried about the efficiency of the IC?
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Technically even if its covered its still sort of fine. Remember these Intercoolers are not efficient as people make them out to be. Air cooled intercoolers are technically just heatsinks. There was a nice article about this that cheston posted a while back which shows this.

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I have a 25x13x3 IC, and unfortunately, which will probably be your case, had to hack away the front bumper support. and if you want the most direct flow, you will probably lose the use of your foglights as well. That size should fit though... heres a pic, and its only 25" in length, but 13 high. theres still more room for width.

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That is definetely one decent sized IC.

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Ooooh...nice!

How did you support the IC? From underneath? Any pics?

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I have a 25x13x3 IC, and unfortunately, which will probably be your case, had to hack away the front bumper support. and if you want the most direct flow, you will probably lose the use of your foglights as well. That size should fit though... heres a pic, and its only 25" in length, but 13 high. theres still more room for width.

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Originally Posted by bags533
Are you worried about the fitment or the that it won't cool the air?

Or are you worried about the efficiency of the IC?
Fitment, why? will an intercooler this big not be efficient?
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Old 02-23-2004, 12:06 PM
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If you have a SC which is psi limited by impeller speed, it's a concern. Otherwise, for a TC you just turn up the boost to make up for the pressure drop.

Basically, the size of the IC is a concern with a SC, but not really with a TC except for minor lag induced by having to pressurize the larger intake volume.

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Fitment, why? will an intercooler this big not be efficient?
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Old 02-23-2004, 02:34 PM
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Originally Posted by jkklim
Fitment, why? will an intercooler this big not be efficient?

Right, for it to be efficient, some of the main concerns are the plate area (the area that is exposed/cooled by the atmospehere), and the frontal area, which gets the coolest charge of air when moving, and the quantity of air going through the IC.

Also, you have to worry about flow restriction... even if you cool the charge down, a loss of pressure might offset that gain, and in some sitituations where the charge is not that hot, you might even lose power.

If you are going with turbo, the IC is definately MORE needed than the S/C, because the intake charge temp will be exponentially hotter, because of the exhaust gases heating up the T/C, and the air having to flow through there.... whereas the S/C will only have to deal with the engine temp.

Why do I have a huge honking iC? Because I can ... also, because I was thinking of going high boost at sometime. I want want reliability as #1, and power as #2. I don't care if I lose a psi or so, as long as I can have COOL charge temp, which will help reduce detonation. Im sure the efficiency for this IC is very good, but it would be MUCH more efficient with a TC because of the higher temps.

BTW, ill snap pics of the bumpers when I get home to show you how im going to mount the IC
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ohhh.. also, I didnt see that the core size was only 24x8x3 (the size you should be concerned about)... I thought that 30 sounded a little large... ok. in that case, mine would be 30x13x3..
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Originally Posted by ilumo
BTW, ill snap pics of the bumpers when I get home to show you how im going to mount the IC
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Wow, thank you IceY2K1 and ilumo. Very Helpful info!
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Would this be a better option?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2461480037
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Originally Posted by jkklim


Exact one my brother has on his fiancee's Integra. It's a bit short but you wouldn't have to do any cutting of the bumper support to squeeze it in. The factory bumper opening is about 5.5" tall so it'd fill heightwise at least. If you want to go w/ a 6" tall...I'd try to dig up a 24" core or something in that range.

It also depends on how much hp you're trying to push. It says it flows 325 but who knows given that the seller feels like the online equivalent of an Costco style fallen off the back of the truck clearance store.
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The one I'm using is 26x6x3.... Rated for 415hp... Fits snug and you will be able to keep OEm fogs..

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2462525613


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heres some dirty pics of my setup... no light and ****ty camera... gotta fix that Basically, on the modified bumper mounts, theres a tapped hole for a bolt to screw into the intercooler to hold it there... with that and the piping attached to it... it shouldnt move much, and be secured.

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so piping done up on top from manifold could use 2.5 piping or should go wit 3inch all the way top and bottom etc..still dont understand what size piping to use
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Well letme make myself clear..If im runing low boost about 6psi the max for now do i have to replace my exhaust to a 3inch or can i keep my aftermartket size(stillen exhuast)? I know i have to make a new ypipe but was wondering can i keep the same size or will i have to go bigger if runing 6psi only?? Hope i made it a little clearer hehe
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