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Old 02-03-2005, 12:58 PM
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ripp boost cooler

hey boosted pimps n pimpets,
i just say these people on espn talking about their boost cooler at some car show and i remembered hearing the people i know on the tiburon forum talking about adding this to their s/c setups. i honestly have no idea how to install, or if its really a good product but i figured u guys might want to see it.

RIPP’s new intercooler for 2004 offers the best of the newest technology. Proving once again that RIPP in never one to follow the rules.

Boost Cooler Benefits:

•Greatly reduced EGT’s. Decreases of 250 degrees F are common using a 50/50% Methanol /Water mix. This prevents the usual problems associated with high exhaust car temperatures - rings sticking, holed pistons, etc.

•Low cost power - where else can you get HP for $500 along with reduced EGTs.

•Greatly increased air charge densities - 3-5 psig boost increases are common.

1. Do I need an Intercooler with Water/Methanol injection?

Up to approximately 20 psi boost, water/methanol injection will provide all the density increase/detonation control needed in most applications. Most air-to-air intercoolers are only 50-65% efficient. That means for example, that with 11psi boost and its 120°f air charge temperature increase, an intercooler reduces the air charge temperature only 60 degrees. Also, an intercooler will reduce boost 2 - 4 psi. on average.

2. Why not use a windshield washer pump?

Water/Methanol must be injected at above 50psi to properly atomize. Lower than 50psi causes greatly reduced air charge cooling as the result of larger droplets and their reduced total surface area.

3. Why methanol?

Methanol is a high octane fuel that is extremely resistant to detonation with an excellent cost/benefit ratio. ($1.50 - $2.00 per gallon.) Its high latent heat of vaporization also makes it an excellent air charge cooler which means a denser mixture and more horsepower. Because of these facts, it is a better anti-detonate than ethanol or isopropanol although they will work in a pinch. It has however only about 60% of the energy content of gasoline by volume so about twice as much is used to make similar power if used as a straight fuel.

Although most windshield washer fluids contain some glycol and detergent, most fluids are up to 50% alcohol (methanol, ethanol, isopropanol) and make an excellent Boost Cooler®. Try to find one that indicates contains methanol.

The best place to find a perfect mix would be in a window washing solution manufactured by Prestone: Prestone “De-icer 32below” is a perfect blend of methanol and water.

4. How much Water/Methanol and can I use windshield washer fluid?

To prevent detonation, the ratio of Water/Methanol to gasoline is roughly 1 to 5 in gasoline applications. In practice, you give it as much water / methanol as it takes to eliminate detonation without quenching combustion. The amount depends on the onset RPM of injection, the octane of the gasoline, fuel/air ratio, cylinder head type, even the weather conditions. Your engine is actually pretty tolerant of extra water vapor, you will know its too much when the engine misses and loses power.

5. Where can I purchase Methanol?

Methanol can generally be purchased where racing fuels are sold. Also, most gas line dryers like Heat are simply Methanol. Suppliers of industrial chemicals can also supply Methanol usually at a higher price than fuel suppliers. If all else fails, most windshield washer fluids are up to 40% Methanol and 58% water. Methanol can be purchased on the web at www.worldwideracingfuels.com and hiperfuels.com.

6. How long will a tank (2qts.) last?

In high boost/high horsepower application, a full blast 1/4 mile run will utilize as much as 1/8 tank. A larger tank should be considered if over 9psi boost is utilized in road racing where a tank can be used in as few as 6 - 2 mile/ full tilt laps. Under normal street use in a 400HP SDS powered Mitsubishi Eclipse V6, will usually lasts about 500 miles. Two reservoirs can be used for 1-gal total capacity if desired.

7. At what boost level do I introduce Water/Methanol?

Centrifugal superchargers: Generally, at 50% of peak boost the recommended quantity should be introduced. Injection should occur at or near peak boost to avoid combustion quench since peak boost occurs so fast.

8. What ratio of Water/Methanol is recommended?

A 50/50 ratio is recommended. This has been demonstrated to be the best for charge/air cooling, excellent detonation control, and controlling cylinder temperature. This includes diesel applications where water conditions the combustion of the methanol so combustion timing isnt affected.

9. Many recommend NGK Copper core spark plugs in boosted applications. Will these work also with water/methanol injection?

NGK Copper core spark plugs are highly recommended with the RIPP Boost Cooler. NGK Copper cores, with their low firing thresholds and intense spark allow for larger quantities to be injected sooner without misfiring. This allows for more cooling of the intake air. If you have a misfiring problem, nine times out of ten, NGK Copper core will clear it up.

10. Will water/methanol harm my engine?

In theory, at recommended quantities, most of the mixture is evaporated before it hits the combustion chamber. Also, injection only takes place at high boost levels minimizing cylinder wash concerns. Engines that have been torn down after two years of water/methanol usage have shown no wear issues only clean combustion chambers. In fact, water/methanol reduces the probability of engine destroying detonation. Think of it as an insurance policy against detonation.

Price:$ 499.95 Part Number: 1A1G
sorry if its long or if its a repost someont let me know and i'll delete it.
also how on earth are these people on their site putting down 400+with a s/c?

http://www.rippmods.com/default.asp?menuid=1&pageid=1
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Old 02-03-2005, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by liqidvenom
sorry if its long or if its a repost someont let me know and i'll delete it.
also how on earth are these people on their site putting down 400+with a s/c?
400 at the wheels or at the crank?
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on the site for some of the mitsu v6 motors it said 400+fwhp. i thought it was nuts but im gonna go re-read it again just to make sure. wat do u make of this product?
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yea http://www.rippmods.com/products/pro...&productId=134 on the bottom for the page it said 419whp.

ohh and heres a pic of the boost cooler



peoples give your imputs cause i find this intresting for s/c people that dont want to run a fmic due to the small boost loss
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well acoording to that page there kit comes with low compression pistons and a vortec blower that will suposedly make 25psi

a vq30 with pistons and 25psi would probobly make closer to 500whp

and there are supercharged maxs with water injection
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http://www.aquamist.co.uk/ and several other companies make a good h20/meth spray setup. You can actually make these kits I think.

Not to be too I was just cruising through that site and I saw these headers for a V6 eclipse. Wow. http://www.rippmods.com/products/pro...&productId=137
I wish they made long tube headers like that for a Maxima. I am not sure about Where the pipes Y, and then look how much they cost.
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RIPP is no joke!!! as as those cars are compared to the 2gs those kits can make 375hp easy... heres one of the V6, my buddy did at the shop, the RIPP PBEMS fired the ECU though, but their updated PBEMS seems to work fine. he's doing a RIPP SC on a Tiburon as well

http://www.auto-upgrade.com/3g/sc3g.html
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can some one explain to me how this is activated. Is it activated automatically at a certain PSI or it it a manual activation. Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question but i am tottaly clueless about this stuff
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this company makes kits that have variable comtroller that sens either MAF voltage or boost to control the amount of water/meth. so with the increase in either MAF voltage or boost pressure will increas water injection. they also have cheaper less complex systems that just use a hobbs switch for boost activation

http://www.snowperformance.net/products.asp?id=1
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ohh chris this is activated i think by a certain boost...im not sure how it goes off or on
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Progressive MAP control is good stuff!
Although I am not familiar with the RIPP kit, it sounds like Snow performance's. They make an excellent meth injection kit as well, I run the progressive map setup - Viper owners love snow as well!

Meth is a verry effective means of preventing detonation. It is not unheard of to go from 20psi on pump gas, to 35psi on pump gas w/meth without problems. Sure beats paying 10.20/gal for C16 too.
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