Automatic Tranny Question
#1
Automatic Tranny Question
I've been thinking about adding the Stillen supercharger to my Max for quite some time now. If I do, I'll most certainly get the valvebody mod on my tranny. My question is...if I'm also thinking about getting a 5-speed conversion down the road some day, should I just go ahead and get the conversion now? Is it any more difficult to get a 5-speed conversion AFTER the supercharger has been installed? I definitely want to go SC, but if I can do that first and then get a 5-speed later, that'd be great. But if adding the SC adds any more complications for doing it later, then I'd just assume do it now.
Tony
Tony
#2
I just put a s/c on my car its auto. My plan is to gather the parts little by little and wait for the transmission to (blow) hopefully I will have every thing I need by then and just do the swap. The only thing I have done to my trans. is put a cooler and change to synthetic fluid it needed the fluid change anyway. I might do the drop resister mod it takes way too long for the 1-2 shift. I don't think I would spend $400 dollars on a valve body mod to make the car shift hard all the time and also knowing I am going to swap it anyway.
#6
Originally Posted by Bags
the auto trannies seem to last a long time, years, with a VB mob and tranny cooler on the SC kit
This have been proven by many. Some even pushing 9 psi
This have been proven by many. Some even pushing 9 psi
Still one question, though: Is the 5-speed conversion going to be any more difficult or expensive after the SC has been added vs. doing the conversion beforehand.
Tony
#8
Originally Posted by Bags
the auto trannies seem to last a long time, years, with a VB mob and tranny cooler on the SC kit
This have been proven by many. Some even pushing 9 psi
This have been proven by many. Some even pushing 9 psi
I really want to see what kind of numbers it puts down.
I guess I'll see how it holds up. I just got offered a 2001 AE VLSD 5-sp for a mildly reasonable price on friday.
#9
Originally Posted by slimer
are you saying that i shouldnt put the 2.87 with my vb'ed and cooled auto?
I really want to see what kind of numbers it puts down.
I guess I'll see how it holds up. I just got offered a 2001 AE VLSD 5-sp for a mildly reasonable price on friday.
I really want to see what kind of numbers it puts down.
I guess I'll see how it holds up. I just got offered a 2001 AE VLSD 5-sp for a mildly reasonable price on friday.
#11
Originally Posted by slimer
are you saying that i shouldnt put the 2.87 with my vb'ed and cooled auto?
I really want to see what kind of numbers it puts down.
I guess I'll see how it holds up. I just got offered a 2001 AE VLSD 5-sp for a mildly reasonable price on friday.
I really want to see what kind of numbers it puts down.
I guess I'll see how it holds up. I just got offered a 2001 AE VLSD 5-sp for a mildly reasonable price on friday.
Not at all. I honestly can't think of anyone running more than 9 psi, off the top of my head, on a SC'd auto. Actually, what was shadow running?
And Cmax, just said his is fine.
#12
Shadow isn't SC'ed anymore is he? I thought he was TC'ed.
Steve, I think just run it till it goes and then swap. Its not like your gonna be able to sell it to any rightminded person. Just pawn off the cooler and VB and that will help with a bunch of the swap cost. And since you're getting a beater the downtime won't be a big deal.
Steve, I think just run it till it goes and then swap. Its not like your gonna be able to sell it to any rightminded person. Just pawn off the cooler and VB and that will help with a bunch of the swap cost. And since you're getting a beater the downtime won't be a big deal.
#13
Originally Posted by Broaner
Shadow isn't SC'ed anymore is he? I thought he was TC'ed.
Steve, I think just run it till it goes and then swap. Its not like your gonna be able to sell it to any rightminded person. Just pawn off the cooler and VB and that will help with a bunch of the swap cost. And since you're getting a beater the downtime won't be a big deal.
Steve, I think just run it till it goes and then swap. Its not like your gonna be able to sell it to any rightminded person. Just pawn off the cooler and VB and that will help with a bunch of the swap cost. And since you're getting a beater the downtime won't be a big deal.
I think Shadow is TC'ed now for sure...
#14
Originally Posted by Broaner
Shadow isn't SC'ed anymore is he? I thought he was TC'ed.
Steve, I think just run it till it goes and then swap. Its not like your gonna be able to sell it to any rightminded person. Just pawn off the cooler and VB and that will help with a bunch of the swap cost. And since you're getting a beater the downtime won't be a big deal.
Steve, I think just run it till it goes and then swap. Its not like your gonna be able to sell it to any rightminded person. Just pawn off the cooler and VB and that will help with a bunch of the swap cost. And since you're getting a beater the downtime won't be a big deal.
he is Turbo'd now, he was sc'd for like 2 years though
#15
I am seriously going to get a built tranny. I've been chatting with Rob at NRH a lot lately. I have decided on a 4.10 final drive, a 3300 tach stall torque converter (I only have a 2600 high stall now), a lock up switch for my torque converter while at WOT, and the ability to lock my car in 3rd gear while on the dyno. This also has a lifetime warranty if I stay under 480whp. And the power loss to the wheels will be about the same as a manual transmission. It is going to be nice to be able to turbocharge my car without any worries of my tranny being the weak link.
#18
He was S/C'd w/ the 3.33 pulley. We stripped the screw on the S/C so we never got on the 3.13 on there. That and it wasn't as fast as he wanted but that was the fuel system problem from a poor shop install.
There aren't any major downfalls to leaving the auto and running the S/C. It's already in the car and not worth much selling it so why not run it till it dies. On a turbocharger it makes a very big difference. The auto tranny is much wider and lower making it much more difficult to fabricate a turbo system for it.
As long as you can deal w/ the possibility of getting stranded should the tranny go (can happen w/a manual as well), then getting the S/C should be perfect for you. Just remember any FI setup can lead to things breaking if you're not careful. Knowing that going into it and you'll be fine.
There aren't any major downfalls to leaving the auto and running the S/C. It's already in the car and not worth much selling it so why not run it till it dies. On a turbocharger it makes a very big difference. The auto tranny is much wider and lower making it much more difficult to fabricate a turbo system for it.
As long as you can deal w/ the possibility of getting stranded should the tranny go (can happen w/a manual as well), then getting the S/C should be perfect for you. Just remember any FI setup can lead to things breaking if you're not careful. Knowing that going into it and you'll be fine.
#19
Originally Posted by Broaner
^Wow. That lockup sounds like the best thing. How do is the stolen power reduced?
#21
Aren't you gonna have some major traction issues? 4.10? What is the stock final on the 3rd gens?
5.5 gens have a 4.something? D@mn! I guess that extra gear makes it bearable at highway speeds. Or is this in the auto? Are they 5Spd auto's?
5.5 gens have a 4.something? D@mn! I guess that extra gear makes it bearable at highway speeds. Or is this in the auto? Are they 5Spd auto's?
#22
Originally Posted by Broaner
Aren't you gonna have some major traction issues? 4.10? What is the stock final on the 3rd gens?
5.5 gens have a 4.something? D@mn! I guess that extra gear makes it bearable at highway speeds. Or is this in the auto? Are they 5Spd auto's?
5.5 gens have a 4.something? D@mn! I guess that extra gear makes it bearable at highway speeds. Or is this in the auto? Are they 5Spd auto's?
4.10s won't make me have major traction issues. Well, on the street it will. But for the track, I will get slicks if my drag radials no longer hold the power. The higher stall almost makes traction a lot harder to attain. But the 60 foot can go from 2.2 to 2.0 overnight if you have traction.
The stock final drive of the VE Auto is 3.64.
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