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Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:10 PM
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Turbo Spec Question (link inside to turbo)

I am working on customizing a kit for my 98 max, I found a great place to do all my piping, and now it comes down to what turbo I wanna use. Ive been going back and forth between turbonetics (not the best reputation) and Garrett turbos. Now I found this one on ebay.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...966408909&rd=1

Anyone know anything about this turbo? The specs dont seem to bad and im guessing with good tunning ill hit boost at around 3700 rpm's with this thing or am I wrong? IM looking to put down 400+ hp to the wheels and i need a right size turbo for the job that wont spool too late and will not be cheap. I was hoping something at around 650-700$. I appreciate all the help with this decision from you guys, and would like to hear your feedback on what turbos you guys are using and what power you are putting down. Thank you all.
Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Search - you'll see that their turbo's have all but blown up.... there's pics around of a guy's turbo that broke in a half.... u still want it?.... oh and not to mention the high a/r - 3700 rpm full boost? i dont think so buddy.
Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Not full boost by 3700, boost starts at 3700, sorry for the missunderstanding, so what would you suggest for a trubo?
Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:32 PM
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I am also looking on the garrett website and they have their 60-1 turno with a 70a/r compressor and a choice between 68,70,84,96 turbine for 650$ right now. So maybe a .70 comp side with a 84 turbine side?
Old Apr 8, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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1.04 AR is pretty big. I would stay away from anything SSautochrome. My friend has one that only has a few thousand miles on it and it is already leaking oil
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:30 AM
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any opinions on the garrett spec turbbo? I was looking at tneir website and they have a couple nice turbos, not the gt series, but what about the one i listend above?
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 07:20 AM
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Check out this place: Full Race Motorsports Thats where I bought my turbo, they seem to have decent prices. I paid around $640 shipped for mine, which is a T3/T04E 60 trim, with a ceramic coated turbine housing.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 08:49 AM
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Now if I go 60 trim on the compresor side, whats a good turbine side, I was thining around 82?
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 08:59 AM
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I am looking at this really fast..
T3/T04E
- Compressor Housing Finish Standard Finish
- Compressor Wheel 60 Trim
- Turbine Housing 0.82 AR
- Turbine Housing Finish Standard Finish
- Turbine Wheel stage 3
- Turbo Thrust Bearing 270 deg.

or theres this...
- Compressor Housing Finish Standard Finish
- Compressor Wheel 60 Trim
- Turbine Housing 0.63 AR
- Turbine Housing Finish Standard Finish
- Turbine Wheel stage 3
- Turbo Thrust Bearing 360 deg.

both are around 620-640$ both these are good for 480whp (not sure which a/r turbine to get to get max performance)

And then theres this one.....
T4/60-1 Turbo
-0.70AR T04S compressor housing
- Compressor Housing Finish Standard Finish
- Turbine Housing .84
- Turbine Housing Finish Standard Finish
this has 360 degree thrust bearing and oil cooled and lubed center section this one is around 750$ said tis good for 585 whp
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 10:35 AM
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Don't get the SS Autochome brand turbo. A 60-1 with .84 A/R is not a bad choice, might be a little small for what you are looking for actually so I edited this post. At 14-15ish psi on our motor, you are going to be a ways out of the highest efficiency island. A T58 would be awesome for what you want. You'd be smack in the highest efficiency island for damn near the entire RPM band.
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A true TS04 would be good too.
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 11:03 AM
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A 60 trim t04e matches up well too. Just throwing out ideas.
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Allright lets say that I want a setup that starts boost at around 3400-3500 rpm and I want about 400whp to the wheels what would be a good turbo size?
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 01:33 PM
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T4/T04E 60 trim... with a .81 A/R... ball bearing
Old Apr 9, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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I can get a t3/to4e with .60 compressor side nad 82 turbine side, and it says its good for 490whp but when am i going to start boosting? And its not oil cooled.......
What would be the difference in hp if i were to do 60 compressor and 63 turbine? I figured the bigger turbine a/r will let more airflow through.

Now theres alos this t3/60-1 turbo with the .70 compressor and a .82 turbine houseing, says capable of 520hwp....


Damn why is this so damn hard, to picout the right turbo? Where u boosted guys at?
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A t3 turbine is too small, you are going to choke up top badly with it. Forget the t3 turbine. We've already told you what we think you are probably best off with if you want more than 400 to the wheels.
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Bought!!!!!
T4/60-1 Turbo
-0.70AR T04S compressor housing
- Compressor Housing Finish Standard Finish
- Turbine Housing .84
- Turbine Housing Finish Standard Finish
this has 360 degree thrust bearing and oil cooled and lubed center section
750$$....now to the piping........3 inch all around yay!!!!!!!!
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cool that will be nice.
Old Apr 10, 2005 | 09:15 AM
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where are you getting your piping done, and how much are you paying, if you dont mind, I'm thinking about getting a turbo in the not too distant future (hopefully)
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
A t3 turbine is too small, you are going to choke up top badly with it. Forget the t3 turbine. We've already told you what we think you are probably best off with if you want more than 400 to the wheels.
Why do you say t3 turbine is too small? Alot of V6s use them with good results. But they may only have 260-300hp. I have been set on using a t3 turbine along with a t04e in order to get full boost by 3500-3800rpm in my automatic. My stall will be set to 3500rpm instead of the 2900, I have now. But, my only concern is making that HP from 6000 to 7000 rpm. I really don't want to have problems in that range. But still want to launch with plenty of boost with slicks. My goal is to be in the 400hp range in the far future. So I want to start building for it now. I am about to order my transmission too. I can care less about daily drivability. My only concern is making a 1/4 mile beast!

Is there some good reading I can do about choosing the right turbine for me? I have plenty of knowledge on choosing the right compressor. Thanks for any help.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 06:05 AM
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A T3 turbine side isn't too small (a full T3 would be way too small). Get the right A/R, and it will be fine. I know of at least 1 Maxima owner who was at 400+whp on a T3/T4 hybrid.

When I get a new motor in, I should be in the 400whp range after upping the boost. The advantage is that I'm at full boost below what the T4 guys are at even w/ ball bearing turbos, and my power curve is the same as the T4 setups w/ the stock IM.

Originally Posted by Aaron92SE
Why do you say t3 turbine is too small? Alot of V6s use them with good results. But they may only have 260-300hp. I have been set on using a t3 turbine along with a t04e in order to get full boost by 3500-3800rpm in my automatic. My stall will be set to 3500rpm instead of the 2900, I have now. But, my only concern is making that HP from 6000 to 7000 rpm. I really don't want to have problems in that range. But still want to launch with plenty of boost with slicks. My goal is to be in the 400hp range in the far future. So I want to start building for it now. I am about to order my transmission too. I can care less about daily drivability. My only concern is making a 1/4 mile beast!

Is there some good reading I can do about choosing the right turbine for me? I have plenty of knowledge on choosing the right compressor. Thanks for any help.
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Originally Posted by Shadow
A T3 turbine side isn't too small (a full T3 would be way too small). Get the right A/R, and it will be fine. I know of at least 1 Maxima owner who was at 400+whp on a T3/T4 hybrid.

When I get a new motor in, I should be in the 400whp range after upping the boost. The advantage is that I'm at full boost below what the T4 guys are at even w/ ball bearing turbos, and my power curve is the same as the T4 setups w/ the stock IM.
Thanks. I know it's possible for the t3 turbine to get out of the efficiency range, especially if you are revving very high. But, I don't know if I wil have to rev over 7K for the t3 turbine to start holding me back. I have no plans on revving my motor over 7K anyway.

What are the benefits of using a bigger t3. I think I can choose .48, .63, and .82. If a smaller turbine is so great, then why wouldn't I chose a .48 t3 with a 60 trim t04e compressor? What would happen if the turbine is too small? I plan to be revving from 3500 to 7000, so I need peak boost in that range to have the best 1/4 mile beast I can have.
Old Apr 12, 2005 | 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Shadow
A T3 turbine side isn't too small (a full T3 would be way too small). Get the right A/R, and it will be fine. I know of at least 1 Maxima owner who was at 400+whp on a T3/T4 hybrid.

When I get a new motor in, I should be in the 400whp range after upping the boost. The advantage is that I'm at full boost below what the T4 guys are at even w/ ball bearing turbos, and my power curve is the same as the T4 setups w/ the stock IM.
I know of another maxima owner who was at 400whp (actual 397whp) using a t3/t4 hybrid.
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