New intercooler
New intercooler
I found this on ebay for $180, brand new. The price was low enough that I was willing to take a chance to see if a FMIC really helps supercharged setups.
This gives me an air temp at the throttle body that is only about 10 deg F higher than air going into the blower. I have been goosing it a bit since installing and I'm not getting any discernible loss of boost pressure at up to 5k rpm, but on my only attempt to take it up to redline last night a boost hose came off at about 6 krpm. (There's nothing like instantly losing 200 hp at high rpm to give you a scare.)
I will dyno probably in the third week in September to see if the FMIC gives a net positive gain in power.



This gives me an air temp at the throttle body that is only about 10 deg F higher than air going into the blower. I have been goosing it a bit since installing and I'm not getting any discernible loss of boost pressure at up to 5k rpm, but on my only attempt to take it up to redline last night a boost hose came off at about 6 krpm. (There's nothing like instantly losing 200 hp at high rpm to give you a scare.)
I will dyno probably in the third week in September to see if the FMIC gives a net positive gain in power.



Very nice! Would be nice to have a definitive answer on the intercooler effectiveness for S/Ced cars that was done at least somewhat scientifically rather than seat of the pants.
Originally Posted by MaxInProgress
hhmm it looks like its not gonna be used to its full potential because a lot of it is being blocked by your front bumper.....or am i wrong?
Not totally wrong, but it will have little effect.
Originally Posted by MaxInProgress
hhmm it looks like its not gonna be used to its full potential because a lot of it is being blocked by your front bumper.....or am i wrong?
Exposure to air is more important in steady state conditions, such as all out high speed running on a test oval.
For occasional street fighting or quarter mile runs, the thermal inertia of the intercooler becomes more important and the amount of intercooler exposed to the air can be decreased without much effect. It just takes a little longer for the IC temp to get back down to ambient in between runs.
Is that 24x12x3 or 3.5? Looks very nice and I hope it works for you.
Doesn't the removal of the front bumper support concern you though? I've always understood that part to be vital to the structural rigidity of the front end in an accident. Mine is removed as well but not by me, and I've been strongly considering getting a different intercooler to get my bumper support back, and I don't even drive the car very often. You drive your car every day don't you?
Doesn't the removal of the front bumper support concern you though? I've always understood that part to be vital to the structural rigidity of the front end in an accident. Mine is removed as well but not by me, and I've been strongly considering getting a different intercooler to get my bumper support back, and I don't even drive the car very often. You drive your car every day don't you?
Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Is that 24x12x3 or 3.5? Looks very nice and I hope it works for you.
Doesn't the removal of the front bumper support concern you though? I've always understood that part to be vital to the structural rigidity of the front end in an accident. Mine is removed as well but not by me, and I've been strongly considering getting a different intercooler to get my bumper support back, and I don't even drive the car very often. You drive your car every day don't you?
Doesn't the removal of the front bumper support concern you though? I've always understood that part to be vital to the structural rigidity of the front end in an accident. Mine is removed as well but not by me, and I've been strongly considering getting a different intercooler to get my bumper support back, and I don't even drive the car very often. You drive your car every day don't you?
Yeah, I'm somewhat concerned, but I don't tailgate and after many years of motorcycle riding I have learned to watch out for the other guy.
-2psi.....J/K.
Now you just need some timing back...
Time for a water sprayer or better yet a C02 sprayer and maybe 400whp?!?!?
http://www.holley.com/HolleyNews/article.asp?ID=13
Or make your own with this:
http://www.importpoweronline.com/cat...93fdc8027f9b7f
Now you just need some timing back...

Time for a water sprayer or better yet a C02 sprayer and maybe 400whp?!?!?
http://www.holley.com/HolleyNews/article.asp?ID=13
Or make your own with this:
http://www.importpoweronline.com/cat...93fdc8027f9b7f
Originally Posted by liqidvenom
i wish u would go dyno sooner so we can know what difference it makes....do u still hit the same boost levels wit it?
i cant wait to hear your results about this. i have always believe that having a fmic with an boost setup is important. maybe a s/c makes most of its heat at redline but its still heat u could get rid of. i think when all said n done after u dyno u might see like 20whp from this setup
Very nice!! I too, can't wait to see your dyno numbers, and how much boost you lost. How about some engine pics so we can see the routing of the pipes?
"This gives me an air temp at the throttle body that is only about 10 deg F higher than air going into the blower" How did you measure this?
"This gives me an air temp at the throttle body that is only about 10 deg F higher than air going into the blower" How did you measure this?
^^^ You mean water to air.
Well, good ol' Vortech decided to take their sweet old time shipping the two ice reservoirs I ordered back on 8/5/05. I finally got a tracking number and they're due tomorrow. Then the install begins!! Josh and I will start a thread and show our progress/results.
Well, good ol' Vortech decided to take their sweet old time shipping the two ice reservoirs I ordered back on 8/5/05. I finally got a tracking number and they're due tomorrow. Then the install begins!! Josh and I will start a thread and show our progress/results.
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if you lose some, spray it w/a 25 wet shot to bump up you up. I think blu would benefit from this setup with that T-trim. I cant wait to see what the results are. It looks good Stephen!!!
Originally Posted by The Wizard
Very nice!! I too, can't wait to see your dyno numbers, and how much boost you lost. How about some engine pics so we can see the routing of the pipes?
"This gives me an air temp at the throttle body that is only about 10 deg F higher than air going into the blower" How did you measure this?
"This gives me an air temp at the throttle body that is only about 10 deg F higher than air going into the blower" How did you measure this?
Originally Posted by Chief Brody
Sure looks good Stephen. Your engine still holding up well or planning on a 3.5 at some point?
^^^Nice. Is it the Phantom Autometer intake temp. gauge? I've been eyeballing that gauge for a while now and thinking about getting one to see the before and after effects of the water/air aftercooler that Ptatohed and I are going to install.
Originally Posted by The Wizard
^^^Nice. Is it the Phantom Autometer intake temp. gauge? I've been eyeballing that gauge for a while now and thinking about getting one to see the before and after effects of the water/air aftercooler that Ptatohed and I are going to install.
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
-2psi.....J/K.
Now you just need some timing back...
Time for a water sprayer or better yet a C02 sprayer and maybe 400whp?!?!?
http://www.holley.com/HolleyNews/article.asp?ID=13
Or make your own with this:
http://www.importpoweronline.com/cat...93fdc8027f9b7f
Now you just need some timing back...

Time for a water sprayer or better yet a C02 sprayer and maybe 400whp?!?!?
http://www.holley.com/HolleyNews/article.asp?ID=13
Or make your own with this:
http://www.importpoweronline.com/cat...93fdc8027f9b7f
Fords' new lightning does it...you'll need to disable your A/C cut under heavy load.
I've thought about this a lot, however with an AWIC and the evap submerged in the water.
I've thought about this a lot, however with an AWIC and the evap submerged in the water.
Originally Posted by Stephen Max
I have this crazy idea about running the AC evaporator lines through the intercooler.
Originally Posted by IceY2K1
Fords' new lightning does it...you'll need to disable your A/C cut under heavy load.
I've thought about this a lot, however with an AWIC and the evap submerged in the water.
I've thought about this a lot, however with an AWIC and the evap submerged in the water.
Plus we don't get as hot up here as y'all do, so its not as much of a problem.




