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Stroked VQ35 with Turbo possible

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:21 AM
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Stroked VQ35 with Turbo possible

I have a 96 nissan auto. I have already started part collecting. I have the vlsd 5 spd tranny from a 5th gen and the 3.5 engine sitting in the garage. What I am wondering is this. If i change everything over for it to work of the 3.0 ecu is it possible to still get the stroker kit available for the 3.5 or is stroking just not possible with this combo. I am defiently going turbo as I have most of the necessary hardware already minus piping. I just really want the most displacement with boost. I know tilley posted the 3.2 engine and wondering if that was using the stroker kit. Any help would be nice..no search access.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:23 AM
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Possible? Sure. Recommended? I dunno. What does it do to the compression?
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by latinmaxima
I know tilley posted the 3.2 engine and wondering if that was using the stroker kit. Any help would be nice..no search access.
No, that is a VQ35 block with VQ30 crank. It's more of a destroked VQ35.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:36 AM
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You can stroke... or destroke any engine that you want... There are benefits and downsides to both. As for the mechanics of it.. Here's what you have to verify..

1. Make sure that there's adequate clearance for the rods to clear the underside of the bores.. make sure that counterweights clear inside the block.. as well as rod caps.

2. Verify the piston's dish volume. Changing stroke means that you have to change the volume of the dish.. whether it be negative or positive dome.. Depending on your compression ratio desires, and combustion chamber volume. When you go down in stroke, to maintain a given compression ratio, you have to decrease the piston's dish volume. When you go up in stroke, you will have to increase the dish size to maintain a given C/R.

3. Make sure there's adequate valve clearance. Changing piston speed and dish volume, means that you could have a piston to valve interference issue. Make sure you have adequate clearance.. and if need-be.. valve relief the pistons.

Now, as for the other aspects.. make sure that you have camshafts that are adequate to take advantage of the change in stroke. If you plan to rev it higher with a shorter stroke/longer rod.. then, make sure you have a spring that can withstand the higher RPM.

Personally.. I prefer long rod, short stroke motors.. they make more power, and have better volumetric efficiency in high RPM. Anyone who makes big power, will tell you that this is the way to go.

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:42 AM
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I assume you're talking about the AEBS stroker kit? 1) it costs in the neighborhood of $8000. 2) It's not available anymore according to Hal. That should help you make your decision...

PS. Donate and get the search ability. If you are going to undertake turboing a maxima, you MUST have it.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 10:54 AM
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Yeah.. it's not available.. it never really was. Paulus at AEBS, screwed a TON of people. They never even ordered a single crankshaft from Crower. This was backed up by documentation from Crower. They sold a bunch of Z guys engines, with pistons and rods.. and called them "strokers". There's a big class action lawsuit against AEBS right now. Pretty shady..

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Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:04 PM
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I think a turbo'ed VQ35 with the 10.3:1 stock comp would lay down already ridiculous numbers at single digit psi. I wouldn't stroking unless you plan on running 9's. There are more and more 350z's pushing upwards of 500whp on stock internals. I think that's more than enough to render the FWD platform obsolete.

If you're THAT serious (Stroked 3.5 with a turbo), drop the VQ in a 240sx instead of a maxima.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TurboS13Hatch
Personally.. I prefer long rod, short stroke motors.. they make more power, and have better volumetric efficiency in high RPM. Anyone who makes big power, will tell you that this is the way to go.

Travis
That's exactly what the VQ30 is!!
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:00 PM
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IMO the drivetrain/platform is almost useless by the time you would be blowing motors from power anyway so unless you really want an all out drag car there is no real need to build a VQ. If I were to do anything the ARP kit would probably help and maybe the destroked VQ35. When doing a turbo kit you have enough to worry about. Worry about the engine build when you start blowing motors from just power and not tuning related. VQ30s are crazy cheap and VQ35s are not too much more.

Donating would also be a VERY good idea if you are turboing.
Old Oct 20, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Spig.. when did you go to Texas World Speedway?! We had our SE-R Convention there, earlier this year. Gotta love that straightaway.. hehe.. You gotta brake like a SOB coming into that turn after it though..

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Old Oct 21, 2005 | 01:31 PM
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Originally Posted by JClaw
I think a turbo'ed VQ35 with the 10.3:1 stock comp would lay down already ridiculous numbers at single digit psi. I wouldn't stroking unless you plan on running 9's. There are more and more 350z's pushing upwards of 500whp on stock internals. I think that's more than enough to render the FWD platform obsolete.

If you're THAT serious (Stroked 3.5 with a turbo), drop the VQ in a 240sx instead of a maxima.
I have yet too see a 3.5 put that down a lil over 400 and they are snapping rods.
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