Where the *ell are all you guys who posted such enthusiastic encouragement back last Fall for Matty to sink a ton of his own money, plus countless hours, crafting and sourcing the V1 Conversion and Starter kits???
I believe there's an appropriate expression down in Texas for your sort: "All hat and no cattle."
Sorry Matty, but I feel embarassed for you, and somebody's got to call these guys out. Those of you who have stepped up to the plate and followed thru on your verbal commitment, you're the exceptions and deserve kudos.

 

Unfortunately that's the way it goes on these boards - all talk and no action. I agree with you totally, and this sort of thing is the reason why I'd never invest my own time and money in an extensive project with the maxima to benefit anyone but myself or my friends who I know wouldn't back out on me. Someone posts a gauging interest thread about any extensive project whether it be V1 plates, turbo kits, turbo piping, engine management, etc and seventy fools post up "I'm in for sure just tell us when it's ready" and then when the product is ready all but about two of those seventy people mysteriously ran out of money. People talk big about their plans for their car and all these things they are willing to do but when it comes down to brass tacks, they aren't willing to open the wallet (or were totally unable to in the first place and were just planning on winning the lottery).

 

to what Neal said...this is not a new concept, its been happening for years. basically everyone complains of not geting product support, someone presents an idea and the people love it, but then when they realize it is not free or a crackhead price they disapear like nothing ever happened.

 

Has it been posted in the 4th gen classifieds? Not everyone checks this forum.

 

Well he has links in his sig, I'm sure people visited the thread, but people really are all talk most of the time. Sometimes money is just short, or people lose interest over time. Those that want to be boosted will get boosted no matter what.

 

we spoke about this yesterday a bit, im sure he's gonna sell all of them. people just probably need more time due to the pricing. I guess they are saving more money? If i werent boosted id jump all over this...then again, the vtech blower is tough to find for under 2 grand...either way...i agree...if they said they'd come through they should have, end of story.

 

I posted in the 4th gen forum and asked for it be stickied but since Im not a sponser I cant stickey a thread in the for sale forum. I PM'ed someone about being a sponer but didnt hear back.

I have to disagree on this statement 100%. Since Ive starter this thread way back in july-september about the idea of investing all this money into this project, ive been keeping an eye on ebay probably twice a week. Ive seen many blower units pass by with no-one even thinking of purchasing them. I would have to say there has been as least 25-30 blower unit pass by since sept that will work on my kit. All in very good shape.

Most people dont even see how much money and time I put into this project. I waited for about 25 interested before I went and pulled my car apart and started this all. I figure even if 10 back out, thats still 15. HA. and that was just the Convertion Kit. Then I went ahead and had drain back plates made ($72 Dollar Nissan part alone) and sourced out all the bolts needed for the kit for people building their own supercharger.

The funny thing is, I didnt decide and purchase the drain back plates till I saw an interest in people wanting to build their own kit. I figure it will make it easier for people and all the rest of the parts can be fairly easily. The plate, drain back plate, and thermostat housing need to be perfect so the oil drain correctly, and the belt stays lined up at all times.

I wish people would realize how easy it is to build a kit to how you like it, on a budget.

Thanks Curt

-matt

 

maxima.org is king of all talk no action.

 

I told Matt that I will buy one from him. And I fully intend to.

 

Zach, Im not attacking anyone, like yourself. Im not pointing fingers either. Im just saying in general. There are also some exceptions

-matt

 

I am sure threads like this are not good for business either

 

I am fer sher going to be buying some things from matty's kit since I already have the stillen V1 kit...but it was 2nd hand so a lot of the things are beaten...hence getting the stuff from matty, I just need to have someone more knowledgeable now to look over my kit and whom has seen/installed the maxima S/C'er kit before to tell me what other things to order from matty

 

The first run of kits I believe need to take a long time to sell out. People dont know the product yet. Once people start to see it on vehicles and people building kits and making lists, they will sell. If I EVER make a second run of lets say 10, I will go at it a bit different. I will take down payments before the stock is made, and recieve the rest when shippment takes place. Full records will be taken as well. Its dificult to do that on the first run because I had nothing to show, and no backup that it worked. After testing it on my car for over 2000 miles and fellow .org guys running them, they are really good.

-matt

 

Well Matty keep me posted. I'm definitely interested as I will be going supercharge hopefully be spring if all works out well. I've heard that you do great work and would definitely support.

 

You can post a pic of the parts layed out on the floor or something. People helped me out that way. If you need any other help like this, i guess PM me also. I'll do what i can. Some parts are not necessary, others you can make up yourself easily. Start a thread for it.

Matty, that down payment idea would probably work best for both parties anyway. It's easier to make two payments than one.

 

That will take place on the second run, if there is one

-matt

 

I'm definetly buying from Matty

 

i swear 60% of the maxima.org are ricers. if you goto the 4thgen section, all you see are post about lights, which wheels look good, or which muffler sounds the best. my car probably isnt the fastest or anywhere as performance oriented as most of the boosted guys, but atleast im in the process of crafting my own turbo kit. only need a few more items until i start piping. i posted a thread about ecu wiring and doesnt even get touched.

 

I fixed your post for you

 

I agree, sure there are regulars that visit the advance performance sections and "swear" that they will turbo/supercharge/nitrous their car but the fact of life on the org is maybe only 10-15% of the people (correct me on the % if I'm wrong Neal) actually follow thru with it. I understand that SC or Turbo is a big undertaking but at the same time, I dont think people should make the type of agreement that they do when people such as Matty dump their hard earn money to create a product that will beneficial to people on the org. Its like a slap in the face for people even thinking about making something for our cars.
Anyhow Matty, I hope those plates do get sold eventually and you make back the money that you put into this project and then some. Good Luck!

 

LOL Neal for fixing huyqvu's post,true that MOST people on here are all talk and no ACTION, That's why we don't get that much aftermkt support,you got to pay to play,but they just don't understand,when you post interest in something that's about to be produce,you already committed to buy that item,that's why next time when someone come up with a new produce,make sure that you collect haft or some of the money,that way the people who committed to buy just can't BACK OUT like that.

 

I agree that it is kinda messed up for a person to say they are very interested in a product then when it is available you back away......but, nobody is required to buy anything just because they post that they are interested.

I am sure a decent amount of money was invested in doing this, but that really has no bearing on the situation. There is still a profit motive here. It is a business and it takes investment to get something off the ground. The fact that Matty has not gotten is money back the first month the product has been on the market is not the maxima communities fault.

When it comes down to it, Matty may just have made a bad business decision. It happens every day. One does research and believes a product has a market. Investments are made and products developed but when they come to market the product just doesn't do as well as it was supposed to...and people lose money. That is the risk they take.

Matty has been around here long enough to know that people on forums like to talk a big game. He should have taken that into consideration, and I am sure he did.

I am involved in a forum/internet based business myself so I know how this goes. Businesses don't just take off the first month once a product is introduced. It takes time. Matty's SC starter kits may end up a big success. The community could get a great product at a good price and Matty could make some money for his efforts. But a thread like this only after a few weeks of the product being available is definately not going to help business.

 

Like I stated above. I waited for 26 interested before I built the Convertion Kit. Then after that was built and done, everyone wanted the drain back plate as well so they didnt have to mess around drilling a $72 nissan part and mess it up, a hard part to make off the top of your head. So I went ahead and built that. I knew there was risk in this but I really do think I did my homework here and I beleive this will do good in the next few months. I do believe I will be making a-nother run of these due to that fact that there isnt another other option for guys wanting to supercharger there 4th and 5th gens. Unless you want to buy a sub-par used kit and dump tons of money making it a decent kit for your car and most likely that used kit will be a V2 kit which I myself would never install on a strangers car let alone my car.

These kits are doing good. Lets give it some more time.

Please Lock this thread moderators ??

-matt

 

Lol. Mostly young bucks, probably, and being in the boosted forum is a little advanced for the average forum wrencher/ bulb changer. Same thing with the wiring. There are people on the forums that don't know how to hook up an amp, ecu wiring they would have no clue, even on somethings that are a given. Forgive me, I'm "Mr. Benefit of the Doubt", there are some people that also all show and no go, so all they care about is the biggest rims, or the lowest drop, not for function, but for looks.

 

I am still buying matt's kit. I have been on ebay also watching for a SC. I have been outbid on 5 auctions cause they would always end on a weekday at 12:00am. I am not going to get 2 hours of sleep before work. Matt I can put a deposit on mine.

 

Weird... I never expressed any interest in the kit but ended up buying the first starter kit anyway...

 

As of right now, that would be the best idea for people wanting one. I Just got a deposit today for one, so that leaves about 4-5 left

-matt

 

So let me get this strait, after polling 1 internet forum you decided to take upon a giant project costly in both time and money to help other people? And your surprised the units are flying off the shelf??
Kudos to you for making a cool helpfull product, but you need to re-think your business strategy if you bank on 25 people from 1 forum.
Once again, i respect you for all the time and work put in, but you should have thought this through a little more.
Flame on the new guy.........

 

I am going to flame away on the new guy because I think your wrong. Where I stand now, this set of kits will sell out, and for sure if I do a next run I will take down payments on the orders before I go ahead and have them made. It is close to Impossible to take down payments before I even start the first run because no-body has anything to look at. duh. I think I did enough research before I did this project and I did my homework. It not like there are other sites like this one with people interested in supercharging their maxima like maximacanada.org or maximausa.org. The only thing I havent tried yet is Ebay. Ebay would be a good source for people that dont know about this site.
Good luck to you

-matt

 

Remember guys "I was Aware of the Market 100%" I knew what the market was and that why I only had 12 kits made out of the 26 people that stated they would buy a kit in the beginning of this. So If 1/2 the people would drop out I would still sell my stock and always be able to make some more if needed. Im stickly stateing the fact that alot of guys backed out, Nothing about the market not being good enough

 

What other forums should he have posted the idea on lol. All the other big maxima forums out there? hah.

Unrelated, I don't know how much matty has invested into this financially, and honestly that doesn't have a thing to do with why I personally posted in this thread at all. This situation is just another in the many that I see people saying they are interested in something, but as we know "interested" does not equal "willing to buy."

Finally, I don't think this thread will have any bearing on how well his V1 plates sell, so I say don't worry about it. I don't think it will help nor hurt his chances of selling.

 

I totally agree with this statement 100%. This is just a discussion, I'm not personally going against anyone.

-matt

 

I'll PM you later about my deposit.

 

I hope to have all the cash in 2-3 weeks from now. Sorry for the delay.

 

doublea,

If you would like to leave a deposit and Ill hold a kit for you, let me know via PM

-matt

 

I think your estimate of the market was right on. I would ignore that new guy.12 plates made for 26 potential customers is a relatively conservative decision, and it appears to be the right one. I don't know why some people think that because you did not instantly sell out, that you made a mistake in the demand. Products have life cycles, and typically sales reach their peak in the middle, and this kit is pretty new. So, having already sold half your inventory off, your in a pretty good position. Once you sell the remaining plates you will have been successful in what you set out to do. Just let this roll off your back.

 

I agree, obviously there is a market for it, I am not currently in the market as I am undecided on what I want to do, and only resarch and making up my damn mind will decide. Down the road a product like this may come in handy for alot of people, and if they miss out and you do not produce any more then it is there loss. But also I am new to Maxima realm and am still scrounging basic bolt ons together. Pathetic I know. But I do respect this site and the people here who produce information for all, and products for all such as yourself. And I would say for advertising in one forum, on basicaly one thread, on such a large investment, not only money, but research and knowledge you are doing well.

 

ok, in my opinion there should be one post that fully explains what it is and how to make it work. I have a y2k and I'm still not sure what his kit is 100% and what I would need to make it work.

Basically. a sticky to make your own kit, if thats what it is, and the parts we get from him and links to other parts, as well as a write up on how to and where to get it put together. I've read most of the popsts in that original thread a couple weeks ago and i got partially confused.. Basically more detail all in one description, etc..
sorry if im jsut being stupid..

btw, I think he's the man for doing this.


edit:
Okay I looked at the updated post and I can clearly see the two kits. Now how bout there being a write up on putting it altogether, and what else is needed. So pretty much like an advertisement. Then where to find the other parts for sure, not speculation from other members. all in one post, or even a website...

Personally I would like an all in one supercharger kit, so I dont have to worry that I'm going to buy all these parts and then get stuck not being able to find something... sorry for the long post.

 

Please....so anyone who either doesn't want or can't afford FI is a "ricer"...?

Am I a ricer because I have some aftermarket light changes, a nice exhaust (quiet and not ricey looking though), and several sets of wheels? It's amazing the high horse that some of you guys get on....at local meets the FI guys just sit around revving their engines so people can hear their BOVs. That's rice, IMO.

As for me, I could afford to go FI, but choose not to at this time because of autocross/road racing classing limits. Sure, I'd love to have FI....but it's not the right time. Also don't assume that people who don't have FI or internal work done are somehow deficient in automotive work. I've rebuilt several classic sportscars myself (including internals), but again, choose not to do that to my maxima (at least not yet)

I lurk in the FI forums and all motor forums occasionally and am always amazed what a little clique it is.....the technical discussion is very good but there's often an undertone of disdain for those who have the "more pedestrian" mods (ypipe or exhaust or whatever)....

bottom line: there are plenty of ricers out there who have added FI to their cars, and plenty NA cars that are not ricers at all......

To those of you who continue to come up with great new ideas (Mardi, Matty, others) . To the others who just go FI for bragging rights...whatever. But making generalizations about people simply because they aren't "hardcore" performance junkies is just lame.....

sorry for the , but couldn't help myself.

 

I agree, very well said