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Old Feb 12, 2006 | 09:09 PM
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The other idea I've been kicking around with regards to the JWT ECU is that maybe at some point they changed their boosted ECU program and ran more retarded timing. As far as I know most of the guys putting down good numbers for their boost level on JWT ECUs have had the ECUs for quite a while, whereas guys like Mike who get less impressive numbers on JWT ECUs have gotten them more recently.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:14 PM
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Wow, great numbers. I can't wait to download those vids tomorrow - my roommate's sleeping, haha. I always thought your car was black Mike, I like the Green better. Again, great numbers, and I'm so anxious to see those vids.
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:28 PM
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Ok, I don't know what the fuc is going on. I tried to make another long post anwsering everyone's questions but it did not go through again. I will just post some comparison graphs once I get the run files from SVS.
when i post something long, i always highlight and copy the whole thing just in case, that used to happen to me too... then paste in a new message window if needed
Old Feb 12, 2006 | 11:40 PM
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Great numbers Mike!!!
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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nice and good job. NOW toss that POS ecu
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:21 AM
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AWESOME....time to buy the EU Mike!!!!!!

Can you post the uncorrected numbers Mike or better yet send me the files?
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The 375hp run was like 380STD and 383 uncorrected iirc.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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What's the elevation up there?
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 10:53 AM
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750'ish MSL

Not sure if you can see the conditions but they were like 45-50 degrees, 29.20 baro, and 25% humidity.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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Awesome numbers Mike! Wow what a difference with/without the JWT.. doesn't speak well for them.

I'd like the run files too if possible. dvrditar @ hotmail . com (no spaces)
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Great numbers Mike!!

When we ran, were you running the stock ECU and what boost (if u remember). I remember you had the exhaust cutout open. Your car is definetly a low 12s car, maybe even 11s with a good 60'.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IceY2K1
AWESOME....time to buy the EU Mike!!!!!!

Can you post the uncorrected numbers Mike or better yet send me the files?
I got the run files today. But I forgot that I don't have the program to view them on this computer. It's on my old one at my folks house. Can you send me a copy of your RunViewer? I will send the files your way

No EU for me. I have a pretty good tune IMO and am not looking for any more power. Much more than this and I am just asking to bust 3rd gear. I am basically done with any major mods on this car. This will probably be my last summer with it.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:31 PM
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http://www.dynojet.com/downloads/software.php

I'll PM you my addy, but Neal already told me what I needed.

I don't see why you use SAE correction, you shouldn't and it makes your numbers higher legitimately.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Bags
nice and good job. NOW toss that POS ecu
Thanks Kirk, I am going to get it programed to their NA tune and sell it.
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by DandyMax
Awesome numbers Mike! Wow what a difference with/without the JWT.. doesn't speak well for them.

I'd like the run files too if possible. dvrditar @ hotmail . com (no spaces)
Thanks and Sent!
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 03:00 PM
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Great numbers Mike!!

When we ran, were you running the stock ECU and what boost (if u remember). I remember you had the exhaust cutout open. Your car is definetly a low 12s car, maybe even 11s with a good 60'.

I was on the stock ECU at a little over 9psi. But I wasn't making as much power that night. I had been to the dyno a couple weeks before that night and put down 330whp. At that time the car was not holding it's power above 5K rpm's like it is now. I don't have both runs on this computer to overlay so I will just post them seperately. I was not holding power for one of two reasons. A) My clutch was going out. If you remeber, that night we raced my clutch started slipping badly. I pulled the tranny the next week and found a bell housing full of gear oil from a bad input shaft seal/bearing. The clutch was completely oil soaked and burnt up pretty bad. B) The massive exhaust leak right before the turbo was not letting me hold power for some reason. I had a butt-joint connection right before the turbo and exhaust would just pour out of it. The only two things I have done since the last dyno was replace my clutch with a 6-puck and remove that butt-joint.

So I was making decent power that night, but not near as much as I am now.

Here are the two different dyno's. They look the exact same except in the most recent one my power just keeps climbing after 5K rpm's. (these are both 3rd gear pulls for comparisons reasons)



Old Feb 13, 2006 | 04:24 PM
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Thanks Mike I got the email. However the files are showing up as 0 bytes and don't contain anything when you try to open them in WinPep...
Old Feb 13, 2006 | 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
I was on the stock ECU at a little over 9psi. But I wasn't making as much power that night. I had been to the dyno a couple weeks before that night and put down 330whp. At that time the car was not holding it's power above 5K rpm's like it is now. I don't have both runs on this computer to overlay so I will just post them seperately. I was not holding power for one of two reasons. A) My clutch was going out. If you remeber, that night we raced my clutch started slipping badly. I pulled the tranny the next week and found a bell housing full of gear oil from a bad input shaft seal/bearing. The clutch was completely oil soaked and burnt up pretty bad. B) The massive exhaust leak right before the turbo was not letting me hold power for some reason. I had a butt-joint connection right before the turbo and exhaust would just pour out of it. The only two things I have done since the last dyno was replace my clutch with a 6-puck and remove that butt-joint.

So I was making decent power that night, but not near as much as I am now.

Here are the two different dyno's. They look the exact same except in the most recent one my power just keeps climbing after 5K rpm's. (these are both 3rd gear pulls for comparisons reasons)
My car as you ran it turned 13.0@108 in the 1/4. You beat me pretty handily on your lower boost level. Given your power, I think that if you can cut a 1.8-1.9 60', you will be knocking on 11s.
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187

Oh yhea, I am not the dork filming/talking in those vids. That is Neal, I was driving the car
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 03:38 PM
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Damn awesome #'s. How is that much power for daily driving?
Old Feb 14, 2006 | 06:08 PM
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so you even cut it before the 6.6k redline......
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:20 AM
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Originally Posted by zack342
Damn awesome #'s. How is that much power for daily driving?
I am not really sure. the only difference would be the cut-out being closed on a daily basis. I was gonna do a few pulls with the cut-out closed but kinda forgot to. I would guess maybe 320-330 whp, but the curve would look different because I don't spool as fast with the cut-out closed.
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:29 AM
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I've got to think it is, by a significant margin.

By the way guys, this shop is absolutely awesome in every way. Sweet setup, tons of SICK cars (and I mean cars that put out more HP with half their spark plugs missing than any maxima does) everyone there was the nicest ever. Ron Jr. (the owner's son) was showing us what's cool about most of the cars in there, volunteering what's unique and what's planned for each car without us even asking. Let us use the dyno for almost two hours and only charged for 1 hour, as many pulls with wideband as we wanted, etc. I was thoroughly impressed. All they requested was that we not take pics or video of the setups as some of the owners want to keep things on the DL.
those SVS guys are top notch. They got voted into the pump gas drags event this year also with their shop Viper. SICK!!!

Awesome numbers Mike!!! Do you plan to contact JWT and let them in on your numbers with their ECU vs the stock ECU?
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MAX2000JP
My car as you ran it turned 13.0@108 in the 1/4. You beat me pretty handily on your lower boost level. Given your power, I think that if you can cut a 1.8-1.9 60', you will be knocking on 11s.
That would be sick however 11's with 375fwhp is not quite enough for a FWD car IMO.
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Blu←
those SVS guys are top notch. They got voted into the pump gas drags event this year also with their shop Viper. SICK!!!

Awesome numbers Mike!!! Do you plan to contact JWT and let them in on your numbers with their ECU vs the stock ECU?

This is the 2nd time I have delt with them and they couldn't be a better bunch of guys. There shop is different than most "speed" shops. you can't just go in there. They are located back in a trucking yard and there is a security gate to go through, so there is not random people stopping by to just "hang" out like most speed shops. That would be the worst part about owning a shop....kids comming by all the time to just hang out.

We were there on a saturday and they were not really open that day. Ron just came in to do they dyno, so the shop was empty. the cars they have in there are plain scary. He asked us not to take any pics or talk in detail about the projects they have going on, so I will respect that. I will say that there were more 1000hp+ cars in there than you could ever imagine. Turbo viper after turbo viper. Turbo's bigger than basketballs.
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 05:52 AM
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
This is the 2nd time I have delt with them and they couldn't be a better bunch of guys. There shop is different than most "speed" shops. you can't just go in there. They are located back in a trucking yard and there is a security gate to go through, so there is not random people stopping by to just "hang" out like most speed shops. That would be the worst part about owning a shop....kids comming by all the time to just hang out.

We were there on a saturday and they were not really open that day. Ron just came in to do they dyno, so the shop was empty. the cars they have in there are plain scary. He asked us not to take any pics or talk in detail about the projects they have going on, so I will respect that. I will say that there were more 1000hp+ cars in there than you could ever imagine. Turbo viper after turbo viper. Turbo's bigger than basketballs.
Kind of the same deal with Underground Racing here in Charlotte. Between SVS, Underground and Heffner the Viper world has come alive spitting out multiple 1500+rwhp Vipers.
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That would be sick however 11's with 375fwhp is not quite enough for a FWD car IMO.

I agreee. Especially since I don't have my car set up to pull the 60' needed to see a 11 sec pass. I would need a 1.7 60' or less to even come close to a 11.99. I would **guess** the car is good for 12.2-12.3 @ 115 or so if I can pull a 1.8 60' on my ET Streets. Most likely I will run a 12.5 since I won't launch the car supper hard and will probably only pull a 1.9 60'.
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
I agreee. Especially since I don't have my car set up to pull the 60' needed to see a 11 sec pass. I would need a 1.7 60' or less to even come close to a 11.99. I would **guess** the car is good for 12.2-12.3 @ 115 or so if I can pull a 1.8 60' on my ET Streets. Most likely I will run a 12.5 since I won't launch the car supper hard and will probably only pull a 1.9 60'.
Just be gentle with 3rd gear because it wont hold up too long with hard shifts at that power level with a grippy clutch. All my teeth disappeared at around 340whp
Old Feb 15, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by I30tMikeD
I agreee. Especially since I don't have my car set up to pull the 60' needed to see a 11 sec pass. I would need a 1.7 60' or less to even come close to a 11.99. I would **guess** the car is good for 12.2-12.3 @ 115 or so if I can pull a 1.8 60' on my ET Streets. Most likely I will run a 12.5 since I won't launch the car supper hard and will probably only pull a 1.9 60'.
im pretty sure i dont have as much power as you and i see mid-high 12's, so a 12 second pass should be a piece of cake for you.
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That would be sick however 11's with 375fwhp is not quite enough for a FWD car IMO.
Gotta disagree on this one. A well set up (nothing extreme) FWD car can pull an 11-second run at 114 or 115 mph. Not that being conservative is bad. 375fwhp should be enough to trap that in a 3000 lbs car.
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Gotta disagree on this one. A well set up (nothing extreme) FWD car can pull an 11-second run at 114 or 115 mph. Not that being conservative is bad. 375fwhp should be enough to trap that in a 3000 lbs car.
it will be enough to trap 114ish sure but getting the car to hook through the first couple gears even on sticky tires is the key which isn't easy with a Maxima at those power levels. You start slamming gears which is needed to run the quick time and there goes the transmission. It took Mardigras approx 430whp to run the 11.9 even though it was SC'ed/nitrous the curves where similar.
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Mardigras had 430whp when he went 11.9 but his trap of 119mph indicates he could have pulled and 11.9 with less power. For instance he went 11.5 with only 2mph more trap.

It's "possible" for someone to pull an 11.9 with 114-115mph in a maxima but mike won't be the one to do it. His suspension setup isn't up to it and his stock transmission is something he'd like to keep in one piece. Someone much more dedicated to getting every last hundredth out of their 60' time is what'd be required to run 11s with his setup, and mike's just not that guy. 12.2-12.3ish is probably the best he will see unless he changes something else.
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Mardigras had 430whp when he went 11.9 but his trap of 119mph indicates he could have pulled and 11.9 with less power. For instance he went 11.5 with only 2mph more trap.

It's "possible" for someone to pull an 11.9 with 114-115mph in a maxima but mike won't be the one to do it. His suspension setup isn't up to it and his stock transmission is something he'd like to keep in one piece. Someone much more dedicated to getting every last hundredth out of their 60' time is what'd be required to run 11s with his setup, and mike's just not that guy. 12.2-12.3ish is probably the best he will see unless he changes something else.
Mike's car definetly has the power to run high 11s IMO. The limiting factor is his 60' like you stated. Hell, if I was to cut a 1.7 60' in my car right now, I'd be in the mid 12s. Mikes car smoked me pretty badly and that was with less power and a bad clutch. We'll have to hit the track come springtime. I should have a few more mods and hopefully can give you guys a good run ET wise.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
Mardigras had 430whp when he went 11.9 but his trap of 119mph indicates he could have pulled and 11.9 with less power. For instance he went 11.5 with only 2mph more trap..
Actually his trap was 117 mph. But I get your point. His 60' was 1.82 on that run. To get into the 11s with a 1.8 60' = tons of power.
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