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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 03:15 PM
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Clutch/Flywheel Combo

Hey guys, I have a 00 se and I'm about to supercharge it with matty's v1 kit. By the time I'd be purchasing this, I'd already be tuned and whatnot. Being as my clutch is already starting to show its age, I figured I'd just get one now before I'm supercharged.

I'm looking for a definite aggressive clutch and I also would prefer one with a long enough life that I'm not swapping it every year. With the flywheel, I'm pretty sure I'm going with Fidanza, unless you guys have anything else to look at.

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Old Dec 11, 2006 | 03:55 PM
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Which pulley will you be running that might make a difference. I ran an exedy stage 1 for a while with the 3.33 pulley with no problems.
Old Dec 11, 2006 | 04:02 PM
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I have a ACT clutch thats good for 350 foot pounds of torque at the fly wheel and its not very stiff so your leg doesn't start to hurt while you stop and go in traffic.
I also have stillen flywheel and its pretty sweet but I think most flywheels are the same
Old Dec 12, 2006 | 05:00 PM
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Oh yeah, sorry guys......forgot to mention what power I want to make. I'll probably want something for over or around 400whp because my buddy will be lending me his bottle from time to time

So I assume stage II with a flywheel = maxgodliness?

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Old Dec 12, 2006 | 09:29 PM
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Clutches hold torque not horsepower so that is the more important thing to consider. Anyhow, if you're planning on spraying on top of the SC you're probably going to be looking at close to 400ft-lb of torque so you might be wise to go with something like a clutchnet 6 puck sprung hub and a red PP (you'll want to contact them to find out which PP is appropriate since they've adopted a weird naming scheme now, there are like 3 "red" PPs now) or an ACT HD with 6 puck disk, though I don't think ACT offers a sprung 6 puck disk. Another ACT option might be the XT PP with a street disk but you'd have to contact ACT about what torque capacity that setup would have, as it's not listed on their site.

whatever you do, do NOT go with any Spec clutch bullsht, and avoid centerforce too imho.

As far as an aftermarket flywheel - don't bother. Unless you plan on road racing or auto crossing the car, it's in my opinion a completely pointless mod for an FI vehicle. NA vehicles which need to squeeze every tiny last bit of power out of a tapped out setup it might be worth it, but for FI - no way. Spend that money on the FI setup to make it better and stick with a stock flywheel.
Old Dec 13, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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I've had excellent experience with RPS. I have the max street clutch (disc) which holds 600 ft/lbs on both the maxima and the z, and the rps segmented billet flywheel on the z.
Old Dec 15, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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What is your experience with the rps vs the clutchnet on their lives?.....I'm not gonna be racing every day, but when I will it will be ***** out ( granted when i'm actually making decent power ).

Thank you guys very much for the info btw, I think I may not bother with the flywheel and have an extra 300 towards the head unit

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Old Dec 15, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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I've got no direct experience with RPS clutches, densetsu is the only person with a max that I've ever heard of with one.

What I hear on the 350z forums is kindof so-so - not overly positive or negative. My boss thinks the same of them - they are "ok" according to him - fwiw he owns one of the most well known performance transmission shops in the country and has been in the drivetrain game for like 22 years so he knows his stuff pretty well. He likes clutchnet and he likes ACT. I've got a clutchnet and ACT combo, clutchnet 6 puck sprung hub disk and ACT PP - it works well enough to get me into the 11s anyways I like it.
Old Dec 19, 2006 | 10:15 PM
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How do you think a clutchnet 6 puck sprung hub disk will hold with a spec pressure plate???

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Old Dec 20, 2006 | 05:51 AM
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Fawk spec. I had - and still have - a clutchnet sprung hub (Red pressure plate) that I made them set for 350 ft-lbs of torque (only 50% pressure over stock) and wasnt making a whole bunch of power when I was NA, but it NEVER slipped on 6550 almost straight dumps with slicks and the resulting 60-footers (most in the 1.75-1.85 range) werent any slower than a boosted car. Yes 270 crank torque like I had is nothing for boosted cars but its all about the clutch taking the shock when you launch.

The downside of having a hardcore clutch is how hard it is on the tranny. The 4th gen maxima 5-speeds arent exactly the strongest transmissions known to man. I am part of the 3rd gear club myself.
Old Dec 20, 2006 | 11:26 AM
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No idea ghase - it would depend on what the clamping force of the spec PP is.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 08:02 AM
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Well I currently have the Spec stage 3 that’s rated at 465 in tq, but it will need to be replaced soon due to a bad transmission that worn it out. But the reason why I asked if I can go with the clutchnet is because I see no reason to purchase another clutch kit if the pressure and throw out bearing is still good.

Right now my car is making 311whp on 9psi with 10.1 A/F (stock injectors too!!). By the time spring rolls in, it should be making over 350whp, so I need a clutch that will hold, last long, and take a weekly beating.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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With those power levels, you should consider either of the JWT clutch setups available for your car. I'm running the lower one in my 240 (The same clutch is also used on Z's, Max's and QR engine cars) and it's been holding the 400 whp and 330 ft lbs just fine, with mulitple road course sessions.

I know that's below your setup (if you're using nos) but if you only plan on using NOS at the strip (and rarely at that) you may be ok with it. OEM pedal engagment and feel as well.

If you are worried still about the NOS being to much, JWT does offer a setup good for upto 600 ft lbs of torque, that also retains oem feel and engagment.
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:37 AM
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With those power levels, you should consider either of the JWT clutch setups available for your car. I'm running the lower one in my 240 (The same clutch is also used on Z's, Max's and QR engine cars) and it's been holding the 400 whp and 330 ft lbs just fine, with mulitple road course sessions.

I know that's below your setup (if you're using nos) but if you only plan on using NOS at the strip (and rarely at that) you may be ok with it. OEM pedal engagment and feel as well.

If you are worried still about the NOS being to much, JWT does offer a setup good for upto 600 ft lbs of torque, that also retains oem feel and engagment.
Thanks very interesting, I'll look into it, and I'm not using nos, just some good ol boost. BTW what year 240 do you have, and whats your setup???
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 10:41 AM
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97, SR + 2871r .64 turbo, and JWT'd out I'll add to members rides, and post link.

My Maxima will be staying bone stock, but after creating a turbo altima, and now my 240...who knowshow long the a32 will stay stock lol...

EDIT: I can't make a new thread or PM until 15 posts into this forum... I don't want to jack this guys thread to bad, but here are 4 quick pics until I post up more...www.e-rak.com/cody/gallery/silvia







Old Dec 21, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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^^^ wow, that is beautiful...........
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 07:48 PM
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Yo I seen that car before!!!! Do you be on 240sxforums, zilvia.net, or freshalloy??? I know it has to be one of them. And btw I'am Ghase on all of them too...

Here the specs of my project 1990 240sx
Black S13HB with redtop sr20det
Garrett T3/T04E turbo, 60trim w/.63ar (good for 500hp)
Alchemy top mount manifold (one of the best!!!)
Enthalpy tuned ECU
R32 skyline brakes conversion F/R (5lug)
Weapon 17x8(F) 17x9(R) rims (bronze!!!!)

Mods for the spring!!!
Paint Job
BC cams 272/272 in/ex
HKS Cam gears
Greddy Intake mani w/Q45 TB
740 injectors
CP pistons and bearing
Eagle rods
Greddy 1.2 head gasket
Tein coilovers SS
Port/Polish head

And finally, insurance.....LOL
Old Dec 21, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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We need to stop jacking this poor mans thread I hate being the intrusive new guy to this forum hehe...

Originally Posted by Ghase
Yo I seen that car before!!!! Do you be on 240sxforums, zilvia.net, or freshalloy??? I know it has to be one of them. And btw I'am Ghase on all of them too...
The only one I'm not on is 240sxForums. I typically visit Freshalloy if any of them...in my eyes that's home to the most technical discussions/motorsports discussions


Originally Posted by Ghase
Mods for the spring!!!
BC cams 272/272 in/ex

Greddy Intake mani w/Q45 TB

Greddy 1.2 head gasket

Port/Polish head
Some suggestions:
-The Cams are HUGE cams. Lukily you're building the bottom end as well, but you do realize how your powerband is going to shift to top top end now...

-The Q45 TB is a nice piece, but if you have the cash, make the pipe going to it the same size, from TB to intercooler. This way you really gain the power from going larger TB. I personally am not a fan of huge Throttle Bodies on street cars...idle becomes way finnicky.

-The Greddy gasket is a nice piece, but I prefer the Cometic. Do not read into what the forums say either...if you're going aftermarket HG, get ARP headstuds.

-Port and polish? I say leave it go. There was a great headwork thread on F/A, and for the most part everyone agreed that more often than not, headwork by non-sr knowledgable people usually dirupts flow and causes no power to be had. Most also deam headwork pointless unless you're shooting for 500+ whp and or a high boost small turbo circuit car...
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JWT doesn't make a clutch for the VQ30 - at least not one that I've ever heard of.
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I seen that too.
Old Dec 22, 2006 | 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
JWT doesn't make a clutch for the VQ30 - at least not one that I've ever heard of.
According to the site, they only make them for VG30s....being new, I assume they don't crossover/work with the VQ engine series?
Old Dec 23, 2006 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by codyace
We need to stop jacking this poor mans thread
Trust me its cool, I want a 240 so bad.

Why can't max's be rwd?????????????


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