May be a strange question, but I am looking for a supercharger that will fit in the space that I think is normaly reserved for the Power Steering pump.

... In this spot right here-

http://www.deloreanmidatlantic.com/s...e/IMG_8259.jpg

Does anyone know of a SC that will fit nice?

 

ummm mmmm

 

umm ummm I dont think its going to happen. You would have to fab up a plate to hold a blower, then worry about the heat from the exhaust effecting performance. Feed line would be easy, but worrying about draining the blower would be very hard. NO blower will fit there in my opinion.
-matt

 

draining? you mean, the oil drain?

I have a decent amount of space above and behind (back of motor) where I could fit something, but there is not much there to bolt the SC to. I would also need an elaborate pully system to spin it.

 

Turbo!!!!! Is Your Friend!!!!!

 

Maybe, but with the dual exhaust I would need twin turbo, or lots of plumbing.. heck, either way it is lots of plumbing!

I thought SC would be less complex, and less expensive.

 

Seems like an elaborate exercise in time/money wasting to me. By the time you do all this custom crap, you'll have created something that cost more than a regular SC and is a huge headache. I'm assuming you've driven a max with no power steering?

 

No, the engine is in a DeLorean. I do not have the space to use the standard Maxima SC mouted to the timing cover.

 

i think that should be the least of his problems. even if all that is done, how is he gonna run a belt to the blower????


i think what he really wants is a TURBO.

you can mount your turbo ANYWHERE in the car since it runs on exhause fumes but a supercharger must run on a belt so it limits where you want to mount it. if you ask ME, by the time you finish reading my post, this idea should be kicked out of your head. otherwise, good luck

 

Lets see a picture from the top

-matt

 

I have some photos of it from last year, but have since put a 350Z intake on there.. I will snap some new photos and post tonight.

Here is one from last year with the Maxima intake still on it-

http://www.deloreanmidatlantic.com/s...e/IMG_8253.jpg

 

ooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh hhhhhh.


I didn't bother to look at the pic because you didn't make that clear in your original post that this wasn't a maxima you were talking about. I just thought you were some joker wanting to go off the beaten path because they figured it would be easier and/or cheaper - but without a clue as to what sort of knowledge/ability you need to do so.

VQ in a delorean eh? that's awesome.

 

I still say turbo maybe just one. Merge the exhaust and call it a day.

 

wow.....wow

orginality ftw

 

Trying to get the photos of the top of the engine online soon.. Meanwhile I took some measurements I don't see why I could not fit a Vortech or Paxton supercharger where the power steering pump is supposed to be.... with some custom mounts.

I could also use some advice on what needs to be done as far as fuel/ECU? Most of the kits I have seen are for the VQ35, but since I am running the 1996 Maxima ECU (VQ30) I imagine I need to find some other solutions?? Caon someone point me in the direction of information on this specific to the 1996 ECU?

Thanks

 

Gees guys, he posted pics of his VQ'd delorian a while back, lol (or someone did, point it, it was here on the org).

Hey MarcL, glad to see the car is still running good. The thing is since you're doing something that no one else has done, none of us can really tell you if it would fit/ work or not. You're the one with the setup so really you're the only one that could attempt it.

It would be ALOT of fabrication however to rig up that mounting plate, tubing is a given it will be quite interesting to fab.

But taking the turbo idea, have you given it much thought? Because it would be easier to do turbo than to rig up what you are looking into with that s/c

 

ATI Procharger has a self contained oiling system. That would eliminate 1 issue...

 

I agree, to make it physicaly fit I am on my own... However, I am not the virst person to make a VQ35 run on a VQ30 ECU! Heck, I got all of the information on how to do it here! Has anyone added forced induction to an engine like this? I am concerned about how to deal with the ECU with boost.

 

http://www.deloreanmidatlantic.com/s.../P1010001a.jpg

http://www.deloreanmidatlantic.com/s.../P1010002a.jpg

 

I know its pricey, but do you have the clearance for a roots style blower like Stillen's?






.

 

I looked in to that, and it has potential but the pulley system relies on the VQ35 timing cover. I have the VE30 on mine.

 

- Meximax has a blower on his 3.5 swap, but of course its standard mounted
- Tilleys has (had) a boosted 3.5 swap (thats the 11.55 sec run on the timeslip database)
- Mardigras has a boosted built 3.5 swap that he's currently parting out for a TT'd G35 FTW
- jcy98maxse is building his 3.5 swap for boost as we speak

I think thats it for right now

The 3.5 has much improved cooling over the 3.0. That, in combination with the relatively mild ignition timing that the 3.0 ECU runs (compared to that of the 3.5's ECU), should make for a quite friendly boost setup up to 10 psi with no problem.

Streetzlegend (rear mount turbo dude) has a 3.0 ECU and motor, pushing 10psi, on stock ECU timing. Emanage is currently only for logging and a/f tuning. So 3.0 ECU timing, with 3.5s better cooling, you should not have a problem pushing 10psi at all (as far as ECU timing goes).

 

Your saying all of the folks running this config with boost do not have any changes made to the ECU? or fuel injection system? They are running the stock injectors and VQ30 ECU?

.. Just want to confirm, because if that is the case it saves me lots of work!

 

Well no, all the people I listed have have bigger injectors than stock. But of course that would depend on the amount of power you want. Im really not sure how much HP the stock 3.5 injectors can hold.

As far as tuning you dont really "have" to do anything to the ECU. However, I'd strongly suggest an Emanage Ultimates to really fine tune the air/fuel and ignition maps. Its a piggyback so you'll have to wire up into the ECU's harness.

 

Tilley Still has the car and the 3.5

 

Ah, I just did a short amount of reading on the emanage. Looks like a neat toy with lots of options.. maybe too many! I guess that is why people bring their cars to be dyno-tuned!

Is there a basic "how to" use the Emanage with the 96 ECU?

Also, what "bigger" injectors are needed? Any sources?

Thanks again

 

The bigger injectors would depend on what lower intake manifold and fuel rail you are using. If you are using the VQ35 set (probably) then you need 350Z style injectors, top feed. The VQ30 runs with side feed that are like the very late Z32, 95/96 IIRC. www.DeatschWerks.com sells both styles, and there are other places that sell the top feeds.

There is an EMU install writeup at www.vqpower.com and quite a bit of information on here too.

Honesty I would start to look for a stillen twin screw kit, or something like it used on the Z boards. Z guys tend to sell stuff cheap, and even though it might not be bolt on, it would give you a much better starting point.

 

Acctually he doesnt kinda. The 3.5 is in a 240 now and the turbo will be going on that but the turbo has $550 of damage done to it. The EU just got hooked up to the 240 yesterday. The max is sitten engineless i believe.

 

Due to other matters, this project got put on the back burner.. However, I am looking to do this as a winter project.

Does anyone know of any local (to NJ) Nissan tuner shops that have experience in forced induction?

 

You should post this in your respective regional forum...you'll have better luck.

 

Just an update on this.. I picked up a ProCharger C2, and will be spending some time this winter to get it installed. I went back to this thread to see what else I needed to do. Looks like I have to pick up some new injectors too, like 32lb??

 

32lb injectors are 340cc injectors, barely bigger than stock (plus I don't know of anyone that makes an injector that small for the VQ35, so if you went with something that small you'd probably have to rig something meant for use in another engine.)

You will want 440cc injectors at a minimum for a boosted VQ35, perhaps 550s or 650s depending on how much power you are planning on making.

 

How much power I plan on making?? I plan on making as much as possible!!

At this point, I am just going to add the C2. I think it is good for 9lbs or so? How much power can I expect?