SFR Turbo re: 02 VQ35 Alti.
aka The Doom Ship
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Seeing from your dynos, you don't take it to fuel cut anyhow, so if you left it in D. you'd be OK. It wouldn't skip the entire gear. What it will do is just not go to rev cut, and shift @ say 6K RPM into 4th.
Yes you can control the torque converter lock up clutch, I do, so does Grey99 and so does Aaron, i think Jime as well. If you leave the auto with overdrive off, basically leaving it 3rd and your flooring it, the clutch will lock. now if your lets say for example at 4500 rpm and you put OD back on(4th gear), it will unlock and you will notice rpm go up faster and car accelerate faster.
Now, on my previous dyno couple weeks ago, i did a run with overdrive off in 3rd and got certain HP. Then i unlocked the clutch and did a another dyno run in 3rd again, and got 20whp LESS!! so although rpm goes up faster, it dosnt mean ur putting more power to the ground.
Now, on my previous dyno couple weeks ago, i did a run with overdrive off in 3rd and got certain HP. Then i unlocked the clutch and did a another dyno run in 3rd again, and got 20whp LESS!! so although rpm goes up faster, it dosnt mean ur putting more power to the ground.
Yes you can control the torque converter lock up clutch, I do, so does Grey99 and so does Aaron, i think Jime as well. If you leave the auto with overdrive off, basically leaving it 3rd and your flooring it, the clutch will lock. now if your lets say for example at 4500 rpm and you put OD back on(4th gear), it will unlock and you will notice rpm go up faster and car accelerate faster.
Now, on my previous dyno couple weeks ago, i did a run with overdrive off in 3rd and got certain HP. Then i unlocked the clutch and did a another dyno run in 3rd again, and got 20whp LESS!! so although rpm goes up faster, it dosnt mean ur putting more power to the ground.
Now, on my previous dyno couple weeks ago, i did a run with overdrive off in 3rd and got certain HP. Then i unlocked the clutch and did a another dyno run in 3rd again, and got 20whp LESS!! so although rpm goes up faster, it dosnt mean ur putting more power to the ground.
I was doing, but that's exactly what it was 
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http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...aximaturbo.php
Looks like they're already upgrading the web page for the Maxima 3.5L kit.
Looks like they're already upgrading the web page for the Maxima 3.5L kit.
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From: Displaced New Yorker in Southern, MD
http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...aximaturbo.php
Looks like they're already upgrading the web page for the Maxima 3.5L kit.
Looks like they're already upgrading the web page for the Maxima 3.5L kit.
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Wait, so chern, if you have this kit, is it going to fit all vq35's? I was thinking of starting my own custom turbo kit, but if they are going to make a kit for the 5.5 gen then I'll just wait for them. I'm sure it'll be much less of a hassle then fabricating my own.
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I'm wondering the same thing. I'm planning on buying a 5.5 gen. Does anyone know if this kit is only for the 6 gen and above?
If they do make a kit for the A33B, an A33 kit shouldn't be much more work, and the same amount of effort of going from an A34 to an A33B would be the same as an A33 to an A32. With that said, if they think about it, there's much more market for their products.
I wonder who actually understood what I said there.
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Hello there,
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> My name is Brian. I am a member of maxima.org, and I have been following > this project very closely. You recently sold the first kit (I believe) > to an orger by the name of chernmax. I have a 5.5 gen (2002) 6mt maxima, > and if this kit could be modified by me or you to fit the 5.5 chassis, I > would buy one in a heartbeat. This is what one other member wrote in one > of their posts:
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> Try and get a hold of the company directly. Chern is doing the A34 kit, > and no one has jumped on to hav! e them do an A33B kit.
> If they do make a kit for the A33B, an A33 kit shouldn't be much more > work, and the same amount of effort of going from an A34 to an A33B > would be the same as an A33 to an A32. With that said, if they think > about it, there's much more market for their products
>
> I will relay any message replied to me by you to the org. If you want to > post directly in the thread, the address is > http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=5981810&posted=1#post598181> 0
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Brian Winter
>
> My name is Brian. I am a member of maxima.org, and I have been following > this project very closely. You recently sold the first kit (I believe) > to an orger by the name of chernmax. I have a 5.5 gen (2002) 6mt maxima, > and if this kit could be modified by me or you to fit the 5.5 chassis, I > would buy one in a heartbeat. This is what one other member wrote in one > of their posts:
>
> Try and get a hold of the company directly. Chern is doing the A34 kit, > and no one has jumped on to hav! e them do an A33B kit.
> If they do make a kit for the A33B, an A33 kit shouldn't be much more > work, and the same amount of effort of going from an A34 to an A33B > would be the same as an A33 to an A32. With that said, if they think > about it, there's much more market for their products
>
> I will relay any message replied to me by you to the org. If you want to > post directly in the thread, the address is > http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=5981810&posted=1#post598181> 0
>
> Thank you for your time.
>
> Brian Winter
Problem is I cannot post on the Maxima.org. It says I dont have the privleage or trying to edit someone elses post. It is the only board on the internet I cannot post on.This is why we have not been able to pursue the Maxima kit because we are dealing with people who just call in or email us and cannot talk with people on the baords directly. Our gaol is to have a kit for all Maximas. We can make small changes as needed for each chassis and transmission.
Tim
Tim
Any idea's as to what would have to be changed to fit a 5.5 gen?
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(on just doing it!) Pretty much the same issue I had to deal with for my Hotshot Headers, they were originally built for the Nissan Altima SE-R, those of us who looked under the SE-R found out that the improved forward under body and suspension were a result of Maxima manufacturing, they were identical!!! With that info I ordered them, told Hotshot it was my risk, successfully installed them and next thing you know, Hotshot was advertising 6th Gen Maxima Headers!!! They were a private business and decided to retire so along with their retirement, so did the availabilities of 6th Gen quality headers...
Last edited by chernmax; Oct 3, 2007 at 01:52 PM.
Originally Posted by chernmax
This Kit was initially designed for a 2002-2006 3.5L 5AT Nissan Altima, the engine layout were almost identical. The config for a 6spd may be different and SFR has not done any R&D of their turbo kits for a 6th Gen 6spd. So you will have to pass that question off to them if you're running a 6spd...
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But the thing I'm wondering is, if I buy it, whether or not I could make it work. I will study the layouts of the 5.5 gen 6mt compared to the 02-06 altima 5AT. If I think that it is close enough, I will make them work. I just don't see how different they could be with the VQ35 in a max, and a VQ35 in an altima. I'm sure that one clearance here is not the same as there, and certain exhaust elements are different, but with a mass-produced VQ35, I don't think that it would be cost-efficient for Nissan to completly change the layout of the engine compartment from the altima to the maxima. I could be wrong, but if anyone can think of something immediately that would prohibit a 5.5 genner from using this kit, let me know. Other than that, I'm going to do some research and I will let everyone know what I've found. I don't know when I can get some answers, but I assure you, I will....
It should fit fairly easily, since we don't have the RWD/FWD problem anymore. It will take some time/research/measurements.
I'm wondering what kind of fuel management they include, if any.
I'm wondering what kind of fuel management they include, if any.
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440cc injector upgrade along with a PSC1 fuel controller which comes pre-programmed from SFR,
I think one of the biggest issues for the 5.5 gen would be getting the exhaust around the center frame piece that holds the front and rear engine mounts. In the 6th gen it's much different. The frame goes around the bottom of the engine instead of directly under it.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/IMG_4289.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/IMG_4289.jpg
I think one of the biggest issues for the 5.5 gen would be getting the exhaust around the center frame piece that holds the front and rear engine mounts. In the 6th gen it's much different. The frame goes around the bottom of the engine instead of directly under it.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/IMG_4289.jpg
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b3...s/IMG_4289.jpg
...http://www.nissanclub.com/forums/3340199-post169.html
A little on the extreme side, wouldn't you say?
Originally Posted by AltimaNX
Originally Posted by digitalbow
What are the specs on the new motor?
Once the motor is in the car, AAM is custom building an intake manifold that they will tune on the dyno for best power. The engine management will be run on an HKS F-Con V Pro standalone. I probably left stuff out, oh well. Its a lot of stuff to remember.
Originally Posted by digitalbow
What kind of power are you expecting at 10 pounds with the current motor and built trans?
Even with the power now traction will be a MAJOR issue. I ordered the Tein Superstreet coilovers w/ EDFC. I also will have a custom 3 pt front strut brace made to match custom fender braces and a custom control arm brace to try to stiffen this ***** up. I ordered the new Toyo R888 tires for up front. Next summer I plan on having a widebody built to fit some fat 11'' wheels all around.
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Probably just being pessimistic until everything's done and run....I guess I could understand not wanting to get your hopes up with that much $$ and work involved.....Hope it all comes together w/o too many hiccups....
lol - $30,000 in mods on a 4.2L altima and shooting or 400whp. Dude should be making 400whp on a stock VQ35 @ 7psi, should make it on a 4.2L @ like 5psi. I've got no respect for people who just throw money at a car *****-nilly and don't know their **** from a hole in the ground.
lol @ AAM - give me a break. dude is gonna learn the expensive way i guess, hopefully he's not going to miss the money.
lol @ AAM - give me a break. dude is gonna learn the expensive way i guess, hopefully he's not going to miss the money.
lol - $30,000 in mods on a 4.2L altima and shooting or 400whp. Dude should be making 400whp on a stock VQ35 @ 7psi, should make it on a 4.2L @ like 5psi. I've got no respect for people who just throw money at a car *****-nilly and don't know their **** from a hole in the ground.
lol @ AAM - give me a break. dude is gonna learn the expensive way i guess, hopefully he's not going to miss the money.
lol @ AAM - give me a break. dude is gonna learn the expensive way i guess, hopefully he's not going to miss the money.
. . . . .
Screw the boost, I wonder what he could do NA w/ that set-up.
I check out the SFR site once a month or so to see if they have any news about a the 5.5 Max turbo. But it seem there looking for people to test the turbo now.
"We are lookng for a couple test cars to fit the turbo system on.Please contact us about special pricing if you let us use your car!"
http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...aximaturbo.php
I just thought maybe someone would be willing to be a tester.
"We are lookng for a couple test cars to fit the turbo system on.Please contact us about special pricing if you let us use your car!"
http://www.speedforceracing.com/prod...aximaturbo.php
I just thought maybe someone would be willing to be a tester.
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