'Boost with no Tune' Questions
#1
'Boost with no Tune' Questions
I just dont want to blow my motor. Some of you may have picked up on my hinting for boosting the car, whatever. Before the end of next week I'll be RMT boosting
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I had 2 questions however, due to my horrible constraints in scheduling from having 2 jobs and full-time school, I may end up with the turbo installed and having to drive around a day or two without tuning... I KNOW myself, and I WILL floor it
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My questions are- and its in line with how the stock 4th gen ECU works WOT a/f just fine if using a Z32 MAF with z32 370cc injectors.....
With my custom 3"ID MAF (same as Z32), and 440cc injectors, and SAFC corrections set to ZERO, COULD I floor it and not worry about any leaning issues? I believe I wont, just need others' opinions
Also, should I change the MAF IN on the SAFC to '02' of the Z32 MAF, or should I leave it at '04' for the stock MAF?
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I had 2 questions however, due to my horrible constraints in scheduling from having 2 jobs and full-time school, I may end up with the turbo installed and having to drive around a day or two without tuning... I KNOW myself, and I WILL floor it
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I have a custom 3" I.D. MAF(76.5mm, just like the Z32 MAF), Walbro190 fuel pump (for now), RC 440 injectors, FP will be set to 43-45psi, SAFC will be removed of any corrections until dyno. For the time without any tuning I will be running on the WG spring of 5 PSI. I will try to avoid goin passed 5000rpm- no point going up to redline, just looking for a taste of boost and enough to check for leaks etc...
My questions are- and its in line with how the stock 4th gen ECU works WOT a/f just fine if using a Z32 MAF with z32 370cc injectors.....
With my custom 3"ID MAF (same as Z32), and 440cc injectors, and SAFC corrections set to ZERO, COULD I floor it and not worry about any leaning issues? I believe I wont, just need others' opinions
Also, should I change the MAF IN on the SAFC to '02' of the Z32 MAF, or should I leave it at '04' for the stock MAF?
#3
Eddy, I can pretty much guarantee you that you are going to run lean with that setup, especially with no correction on SAFC.
My first VQ35/SC setup had a stock ECU, Z32 MAF, SAFC, AFPR (1:1), RC 440s, and a Walbro 255. With my base FP at 43psi, I would start running lean after ~3psi. I added major correction (+50%) with SAFC and that got me up to ~5psi. I then bumped up my base fuel pressure to 60psi, and I was fine to about 8psi, but it idled ridiculously rich and experienced starting problems.
I added a Vortech 4:1 FMU and lowered the base fuel pressure (~25psi) to avoid hitting uber high fuel pressures. That setup was only good for about 11psi (even with 50+ correction at 5500rpm). I then upgraded to 550s, and fine tuned all the way to 13psi with the SAFC.
About the MAF...if you have a Z32 MAF, you need 02 in (for a Z32 MAF), and 04 out (for a A32 ECU). However, some people supposedly get away with 04/04 or 02/02, but those never worked to my satisfaction.
My first VQ35/SC setup had a stock ECU, Z32 MAF, SAFC, AFPR (1:1), RC 440s, and a Walbro 255. With my base FP at 43psi, I would start running lean after ~3psi. I added major correction (+50%) with SAFC and that got me up to ~5psi. I then bumped up my base fuel pressure to 60psi, and I was fine to about 8psi, but it idled ridiculously rich and experienced starting problems.
I added a Vortech 4:1 FMU and lowered the base fuel pressure (~25psi) to avoid hitting uber high fuel pressures. That setup was only good for about 11psi (even with 50+ correction at 5500rpm). I then upgraded to 550s, and fine tuned all the way to 13psi with the SAFC.
About the MAF...if you have a Z32 MAF, you need 02 in (for a Z32 MAF), and 04 out (for a A32 ECU). However, some people supposedly get away with 04/04 or 02/02, but those never worked to my satisfaction.
#4
Eddy, I can pretty much guarantee you that you are going to run lean with that setup, especially with no correction on SAFC.
My first VQ35/SC setup had a stock ECU, Z32 MAF, SAFC, AFPR (1:1), RC 440s, and a Walbro 255. With my base FP at 43psi, I would start running lean after ~3psi. I added major correction (+50%) with SAFC and that got me up to ~5psi. I then bumped up my base fuel pressure to 60psi, and I was fine to about 8psi, but it idled ridiculously rich and experienced starting problems.
I added a Vortech 4:1 FMU and lowered the base fuel pressure (~25psi) to avoid hitting uber high fuel pressures. That setup was only good for about 11psi (even with 50+ correction at 5500rpm). I then upgraded to 550s, and fine tuned all the way to 13psi with the SAFC.
About the MAF...if you have a Z32 MAF, you need 02 in (for a Z32 MAF), and 04 out (for a A32 ECU). However, some people supposedly get away with 04/04 or 02/02, but those never worked to my satisfaction.
My first VQ35/SC setup had a stock ECU, Z32 MAF, SAFC, AFPR (1:1), RC 440s, and a Walbro 255. With my base FP at 43psi, I would start running lean after ~3psi. I added major correction (+50%) with SAFC and that got me up to ~5psi. I then bumped up my base fuel pressure to 60psi, and I was fine to about 8psi, but it idled ridiculously rich and experienced starting problems.
I added a Vortech 4:1 FMU and lowered the base fuel pressure (~25psi) to avoid hitting uber high fuel pressures. That setup was only good for about 11psi (even with 50+ correction at 5500rpm). I then upgraded to 550s, and fine tuned all the way to 13psi with the SAFC.
About the MAF...if you have a Z32 MAF, you need 02 in (for a Z32 MAF), and 04 out (for a A32 ECU). However, some people supposedly get away with 04/04 or 02/02, but those never worked to my satisfaction.
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Thank you both for the responses. What your opinion on leaving FP at its current 55psi? Man I hope I dont run too lean that I end up wasting my time and $ on the dyno (perhaps I can talk streetz into lending me his wideband). I thought that with the bigger injectors I wouldnt need an FMU.
Either way, we'll see how it goes on the dyno when the time comes sometime next week
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#5
I like the saying 'Do it once, do it right'. Think of it this way, your already complaining you don't have any time. How much free time are you going to have when you pop your motor?
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I would not run the car with no tuning if you know that you will go full throttle. I ended up blowing my engine because my tuning shop was backed up everytime I went in for a tuning. I drove the car untuning for the last changes I made for about 1 month before it it melted 1 piston and broke rings in to other cylinders. It was my fault because decided to keep pace with a built C4 Vette on the highway with 4 people in my car. I never went over 8 psi or even 3/4 way on the throttle but it was enough to cause the damage. Be carefully, do not drive it until it is ready to be. Just my two cents. Good luck.
Ferhan
Ferhan
#8
Thank you guys for the advice! I'll try to have the WB in before I start getting into the throttle.
Much appreciated, go org!
Mtrai, I love the last sentence on your post :lolz: sounds like something I'd say
Much appreciated, go org!
Mtrai, I love the last sentence on your post :lolz: sounds like something I'd say
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#10
#11
I thought with 440's you were going to be ok, but i guess by meximax's experience, might get lean. and NO i wont lend u my WB lol. you NEED to buy one mate! lol. i can lend u the laptop though lol.
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#12
wtf am I gonna do with the laptop with no WB? LOL. Come on meng.... if I buy WB, there goes the $ for installation, lol Then I get delayed another 2 weeks for next paychecks, lol... siiiiiiiigh. Perhaps thats what I'll have to do, b000, lol
#13
So to make all the people happy, and for me to be happy cus I wont blow my motor.... Im going tonight to pick up a brand new wideband from gtr_rider,
So the project is still on schedule
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#16
Thats exactly the plan sir. Judging by the way things are looking, Im going to have most of the stuff installed on Monday.... So I MAY just be doing the turbo install itself on either Tuesday or Weds morning. Tune the instant I drive out, (3rd gear pulls, no safe space around these parts to pull 4th gear pulls to 128mph, lol), and hopefully hit up the dyno Thursday morning FTW. HOPEFULLY this is how it will go. Keeping my fingers x-ed
#17
Thats exactly the plan sir. Judging by the way things are looking, Im going to have most of the stuff installed on Monday.... So I MAY just be doing the turbo install itself on either Tuesday or Weds morning. Tune the instant I drive out, (3rd gear pulls, no safe space around these parts to pull 4th gear pulls to 128mph, lol), and hopefully hit up the dyno Thursday morning FTW. HOPEFULLY this is how it will go. Keeping my fingers x-ed
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oh and be sure to show us your dyno graph.
#18
All you have to wait is two days? Seriously that's not very long. Just save the surprise until after the dyno tune.
I had to wait 1000miles shifting at 3K to break in a freshly built 1.65liter block! Try doing that.
I had to wait 1000miles shifting at 3K to break in a freshly built 1.65liter block! Try doing that.
#20
Alright report so far....
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
#23
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Alright report so far....
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
#24
Alright report so far....
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
Hm, the fuel flooding the cylinders. I'm basically running your EXACT same setup (440's, walbro, z32 maf, AFPR= 51psi). I'm pulling a ton of fuel with the VAFC, and my idle a/f is around 14.9. I'm just waiting to get this new pulley, and SC back on.
But I just wanted to get your opinion on Driveability, for some reason I feel like it pulls harder if i ease down the pedal to redline, as opposed to downright stompping it. I'm putting the blower back on within a week, but just wanted to get someone elses opinion with the setup. Also, did you adjust the in/outs on the Vafc to compensate for the z32? I believe its 2 in 4 out, however im still running the setup on 6 in 6 out, not sure if thats effecting me.
Nice progress man, cant wait to see where you stand.
#25
Hm, the fuel flooding the cylinders. I'm basically running your EXACT same setup (440's, walbro, z32 maf, AFPR= 51psi). I'm pulling a ton of fuel with the VAFC, and my idle a/f is around 14.9. I'm just waiting to get this new pulley, and SC back on.
But I just wanted to get your opinion on Driveability, for some reason I feel like it pulls harder if i ease down the pedal to redline, as opposed to downright stompping it. I'm putting the blower back on within a week, but just wanted to get someone elses opinion with the setup. Also, did you adjust the in/outs on the Vafc to compensate for the z32? I believe its 2 in 4 out, however im still running the setup on 6 in 6 out, not sure if thats effecting me.
Nice progress man, cant wait to see where you stand.
But I just wanted to get your opinion on Driveability, for some reason I feel like it pulls harder if i ease down the pedal to redline, as opposed to downright stompping it. I'm putting the blower back on within a week, but just wanted to get someone elses opinion with the setup. Also, did you adjust the in/outs on the Vafc to compensate for the z32? I believe its 2 in 4 out, however im still running the setup on 6 in 6 out, not sure if thats effecting me.
Nice progress man, cant wait to see where you stand.
Your OUT "SHOULD" be 04, since thats what our ECU's code is. The IN should be 02 for the Z32 MAF, and yea I have it set to that (02 IN-04 OUT).
#27
Alright report so far....
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
-Wideband installed and calibrated
-Oil Pump is in place
-RC 440s are installed and flooding my cylinders like woah, lol
-1step colder plugs are in, gapped to .38
-Feed line, Return line, WG reference line all mocked into place
-Charge piping from front of tranny to over the rear beam in place
-Wastegate Spring swapped out to the 5psi spring
-Muffler is cut off
-Fuel pressure back down to ~40-43psi constant
-A/F I got it to sit at 14.5:1 at idle, but havent driven around yet to really see what its like. I drove it up and down the block and as long as Im gradual with the gas and not tap or stump it, its driveable, lol. Needs more AIR (turbo where are j00? lol)
Plan for tomorrow before work-
- Finish wiring for oil pump
- Install sandwich plate and replace oil filter
- ATTEMPT to install IC
werd! getting there baby!
Also with the oil return, are you sending it back to the valve cover or the upper oil pan? Also are you using an in-line pump to send it back?
#28
If you don't mind me asking, where did you get your charge piping from. I'm tryin to get this turbo set up done before the meet in march so I might switch to a rear mount setup.
Also with the oil return, are you sending it back to the valve cover or the upper oil pan? Also are you using an in-line pump to send it back?
Also with the oil return, are you sending it back to the valve cover or the upper oil pan? Also are you using an in-line pump to send it back?
Im sending it back into the valve cover (gonna drill through it and the baffle. Dont feel like dealing with the cap). And yes you HAVE to use a pump to send the oil back to the motor.
#30
No sir Im running my SAFC1, going to upgrade to an SAFC2 in a month or two. Need more tuning points.
I made the charge piping myself. I bought 2 7ft long sections of 2" pipe for $30 at a local muffler shop. There is one part of it that I went to a local shop (Miami Muffler) that it would have been too many couplers to make it- the section from under the rear seat to over the beam. Not much room there given my SFC and the bends that I needed. So I had a mandrel 1-piece made for that section, saves me alot of headaches down the road.
Im sending it back into the valve cover (gonna drill through it and the baffle. Dont feel like dealing with the cap). And yes you HAVE to use a pump to send the oil back to the motor.
I made the charge piping myself. I bought 2 7ft long sections of 2" pipe for $30 at a local muffler shop. There is one part of it that I went to a local shop (Miami Muffler) that it would have been too many couplers to make it- the section from under the rear seat to over the beam. Not much room there given my SFC and the bends that I needed. So I had a mandrel 1-piece made for that section, saves me alot of headaches down the road.
Im sending it back into the valve cover (gonna drill through it and the baffle. Dont feel like dealing with the cap). And yes you HAVE to use a pump to send the oil back to the motor.
#33
http://www.pumpagents.com/ShurfloPum...0-643-236.html
And they're in Bradenton FL, so shipping only took 1 day.
Nope. Not until everything is on and cleaned up will I take pix, lol. For now use imagination FTW
Indeed
Yea its working. Dunno why it wasnt working on your laptop. Works just fine on streetz bucktooth laptop
And they're in Bradenton FL, so shipping only took 1 day.
Nope. Not until everything is on and cleaned up will I take pix, lol. For now use imagination FTW
Indeed
Yea its working. Dunno why it wasnt working on your laptop. Works just fine on streetz bucktooth laptop
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#34
Report for today...
- Sandwich Plate is on
- Original Oil Pressure Switch FINALLY changed (this was fun)
- Traction bars are off (with the sandwich plate, the oil filter would hit the bar... so Im done with them, lol).
After the turbo stuff is done, Im gonna have a few things for sale for you guys so stick around.
- Sandwich Plate is on
- Original Oil Pressure Switch FINALLY changed (this was fun)
- Traction bars are off (with the sandwich plate, the oil filter would hit the bar... so Im done with them, lol).
After the turbo stuff is done, Im gonna have a few things for sale for you guys so stick around.
#36
#37
wow I seriously need that SAFC2 ASAP. I dont have enough tuning points at all for this. May be different once the turbo is on to add more air in there. But 8points is def not enough
#38
Report for today...
- Had to relocate oil pump to inside the trunk FTL, but its looking clean and not taking up too much space
- I got an SAFC2 from a friend FTW. I'll see when I install it, if not tomorrow, over the weekend
- Did alot of progress mocking up the front section of the charge piping, and the rear heading into the turbo. Coming out great
- Oil pump wired in
Decided to not install IC until later. Too much time when really its not NEEDED, only running 5psi for now.
Tomorrow morning before work I will wire up the SAFC2, go to work, then after work come back and figure out the vacuum line situation.
- Had to relocate oil pump to inside the trunk FTL, but its looking clean and not taking up too much space
- I got an SAFC2 from a friend FTW. I'll see when I install it, if not tomorrow, over the weekend
- Did alot of progress mocking up the front section of the charge piping, and the rear heading into the turbo. Coming out great
- Oil pump wired in
Decided to not install IC until later. Too much time when really its not NEEDED, only running 5psi for now.
Tomorrow morning before work I will wire up the SAFC2, go to work, then after work come back and figure out the vacuum line situation.
![Werd](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/werd.gif)
#39
Report for today...
- Had to relocate oil pump to inside the trunk FTL, but its looking clean and not taking up too much space
- I got an SAFC2 from a friend FTW. I'll see when I install it, if not tomorrow, over the weekend
- Did alot of progress mocking up the front section of the charge piping, and the rear heading into the turbo. Coming out great
- Oil pump wired in
Decided to not install IC until later. Too much time when really its not NEEDED, only running 5psi for now.
Tomorrow morning before work I will wire up the SAFC2, go to work, then after work come back and figure out the vacuum line situation.
![Werd](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/werd.gif)
- Had to relocate oil pump to inside the trunk FTL, but its looking clean and not taking up too much space
- I got an SAFC2 from a friend FTW. I'll see when I install it, if not tomorrow, over the weekend
- Did alot of progress mocking up the front section of the charge piping, and the rear heading into the turbo. Coming out great
- Oil pump wired in
Decided to not install IC until later. Too much time when really its not NEEDED, only running 5psi for now.
Tomorrow morning before work I will wire up the SAFC2, go to work, then after work come back and figure out the vacuum line situation.
![Werd](https://maxima.org/forums/images/smilies/werd.gif)
When I dyno'd my last engine I topped the MAF out at 312. Once I changed the MAF and injectors it pulled like a madman, but never got to dyno again. I'm assuming since your NA numbers were so high, you'll be well over 300, so just wanted to see what your MAF setup is gonna look like.
**Edit...I see you chose the ID maf? Can you elaborate on that...the diameter is the same as the Z32, but can it meter the same amount of air? (5v I think?)
#40
Good to hear man, are you going to be running an upgraded MAF? Not sure if you have the z32 or the larger housing, but the 3.0 is good for roughly 300whp.
When I dyno'd my last engine I topped the MAF out at 312. Once I changed the MAF and injectors it pulled like a madman, but never got to dyno again. I'm assuming since your NA numbers were so high, you'll be well over 300, so just wanted to see what your MAF setup is gonna look like.
**Edit...I see you chose the ID maf? Can you elaborate on that...the diameter is the same as the Z32, but can it meter the same amount of air? (5v I think?)
When I dyno'd my last engine I topped the MAF out at 312. Once I changed the MAF and injectors it pulled like a madman, but never got to dyno again. I'm assuming since your NA numbers were so high, you'll be well over 300, so just wanted to see what your MAF setup is gonna look like.
**Edit...I see you chose the ID maf? Can you elaborate on that...the diameter is the same as the Z32, but can it meter the same amount of air? (5v I think?)
Its the stock A32 MAF sensor hotwire/airfoil, stuck into a 3" ID ~4" long section of PVC pipe. So yes just like stock (since it IS a stock sensor) it reads 0v-5v. ID is slightly bigger than a Z32 MAF actually; Z32 MAF= 75mm ID, my MAF is 3" ID which= 76.5mm. Best part of all it only cost me about $20 to make instead of $75-$150 for a Z32 MAF
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And yea I've been running this MAF for a few months now. Gained 10whp at redline just from putting this sucker in, not to mention the great improvement in overall driveability.