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Decided on a Water/Meth kit, opinions welcomed

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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 06:34 AM
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Decided on a Water/Meth kit, opinions welcomed

I decided to go with the AEM kit because it is the only one in the pricerange that offers all these features.
Universal kit includes everything you need for installation
Boost Safe lets you retard the timing or reduce boost if the system runs out of fluid or detects an error
Progressive, controller-driven 150-PSI pump provides boost-dependent variable flow
One-gallon tank with integral fluid level sensor
Dash light for system status and low fluid warning
Alcohol Compatible (up to 50% in solution with water)
Includes three jets to match your power requirement


The only bad thing is that the pump is not rated for more than 50% meth. However I don't think I'll be running more than 50% anyways


Other kits in htis pricerange does not include a progressive boost controller or low level sendor, or status LED. I am a newbie to meth kits so I may be misinformed on some things but after hours of research I found that this kit satisfied all my needs.

Kit can be had on ebay for ~$400



below is quoted from AEM's website

http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory...CategoryID=120
Water / Alcohol Injection Kit*
The AEM Water / Alcohol Injection Kit is universal by design and adapts to virtually any vehicle via multiple jets to suit your car’s power requirements.

WHY YOU WANT ONE

AEM’s Water / Alcohol Injection Kit reduces air inlet temperatures, which allows you to increase boost pressure and advance timing without having to run higher-octane fuel. It’s like getting to run 100+ octane gas for the price of Premium!

WHY YOU WANT OURS

AEM’s Water / Alcohol Injection Kit includes all the features necessary to do water/alcohol injection right. No hidden costs or optional components are required. Unlike other popular kits on the market, we include a 1 gallon tank with a fluid level sensor standard. Also, because we think engine protection is a requirement, not an option, we include our Boost Safe output in every controller we design. This feature allows you to retard timing or reduce boost if the system runs out of fluid or detects an error. With the AEM Water / Alcohol Injection Kit, you get all the best features in one low priced kit.

HOW IT WORKS

Once installed, the Water / Alcohol Injection Kit uses a boost-dependent, variable-flow progressive controller to determine the amount of water / alcohol mixture (up to 50%) to feed into the inlet stream from the included one-gallon reservoir. The controller commands a progressive 150-PSI pump that delivers the mixture, and flow adjustments at the inlet are made via three included jets designed to match most engine power requirements. The result is significant horsepower gains using pump gas—at about half the cost of Racing Fuel.

OTHER COOL STUFF

You don’t have to worry whether AEM has your application because the Water / Alcohol Injection Kit is designed to be universal for practically any vehicle. It includes everything you need to adapt it to your steed. Critical safety features are integrated into the system to virtually eliminate any chance of failure, including an integral fluid level sensor in the reservoir, a dash light to warn of low fluid level or error codes (including short circuits, battery voltage and more), and an additional output to either decrease ignition timing or boost if the system detects low fluid levels or a system error.

*Legal in California only for racing vehicles which may never be used upon a highway.

Universal kit includes everything you need for installation
Boost Safe lets you retard the timing or reduce boost if the system runs out of fluid or detects an error
Progressive, controller-driven 150-PSI pump provides boost-dependent variable flow
One-gallon tank with integral fluid level sensor
Dash light for system status and low fluid warning
Alcohol Compatible (up to 50% in solution with water)
Includes three jets to match your power requirement
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 03:52 AM
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anyone care to educate?
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 05:39 AM
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snow performace
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 07:29 AM
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well you're just saying that you decided to go with this kit. At least I didnt notice any part of you asking what we thought of the kit etc...

But I too would go for Snow Performance, or actually Cooling Myst (this is my most likely next move). That AEM kit includes alot of stuff thats not super-needed. A level sensor? Its not that hard to look at the tank and check the level. Even snow-performance's basic kit has an LED indicator IIRC. Hell you dont even need a tank! Could just use your windshield washer fluid tank.

Its all up to you. I would look at the other brands and see what they have to offer. Im not saying the AEM kit is no good, but this kit that your looking at in particular has alot of things that really you dont NEED, and thats $ that could be used for something more useful IMO.
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 08:18 AM
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I heard snow performance is really good also.
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 05:55 PM
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$400 is alot, but it does come with a tank. if you can afford it, thats acceptable i guess. I would go with coolingmist, its cheaper, its the same pump everyone else uses (snow performance, etc...), I think snow performance is overrated, they are just well known, but dont think they are the best. All companies use the same exact pumps (shruflo). So just go with the cheapest (coolignmist)

read this http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=538791
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 04:03 AM
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i looked at the other brands and their starter kits do not have a progressive spray controller. With a SC i think its important to have this controller so that your not spraying water/meth at full blast when your're not at full boost. With a turbo its different, that air would be so hot that it wouldn't matter how much you spray. With the controller I can start the spray at say 3lbs of boost and it will progress to a full spray at 12 lbs of boost or wherever I set my full spray to be.......
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 02:25 PM
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I agree with streetzlegend, $400 is a lot of loot for a water injection system. I'm running a Cooling Mist system on my Turbo Q45. It cost me around $240 from Ebay. It came with an adjustable boost switch, check valve, tubing, pump and small water tank. It does the job.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by secondtonone317
i looked at the other brands and their starter kits do not have a progressive spray controller. With a SC i think its important to have this controller so that your not spraying water/meth at full blast when your're not at full boost. With a turbo its different, that air would be so hot that it wouldn't matter how much you spray. With the controller I can start the spray at say 3lbs of boost and it will progress to a full spray at 12 lbs of boost or wherever I set my full spray to be.......
Well, w/e the case may be as far as which kit you go with, meth/water injection is awesome and you will love it.
Old Feb 29, 2008 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by secondtonone317
i looked at the other brands and their starter kits do not have a progressive spray controller. With a SC i think its important to have this controller so that your not spraying water/meth at full blast when your're not at full boost. With a turbo its different, that air would be so hot that it wouldn't matter how much you spray. With the controller I can start the spray at say 3lbs of boost and it will progress to a full spray at 12 lbs of boost or wherever I set my full spray to be.......
and you think a supercharger blows less than ambient temp air?and if your worried bout that so much set the trigger pressure higher.but to help ya out that aem one is jus a rebadge marked uped kit.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ISG-M...spagenameZWD1V
p.s. if dont advance the timing your gonna lose power

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Old Feb 29, 2008 | 02:48 PM
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I know someone who else bought a AEM Kit. It did not come with a check valve and they got tired of the kit siphoning and bought a kit from devilsown which he said he liked a lot better. Might want to look into them. www.alcohol-injection.com
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