V2 SC Kit
08-09-2010, 01:40 PM
#41
Hard to say, as I don't know your setup and exactly what you're using. If you use the sizes of pulleys that Stillen intended and designed for, only then are you guaranteed not to have rubbing issues. But, I will say you're on the right track to success by swapping over to the stock crank pulley. Keep us posted.
08-09-2010, 10:27 PM
#42
belt problem is fixed!!!!
BUT BLOWER IS F****ED......
I REALLY GOT TORN A NEW ONE. Do NOT buy from a guy named Dontae in MD. i'm gonna find out his org name but he said blower is 100% .....
the blower is making the "marbles in a can" noise and it shooting oil out of where the pulley bolts to the blower.
BUT BLOWER IS F****ED......
I REALLY GOT TORN A NEW ONE. Do NOT buy from a guy named Dontae in MD. i'm gonna find out his org name but he said blower is 100% .....
the blower is making the "marbles in a can" noise and it shooting oil out of where the pulley bolts to the blower.
08-09-2010, 10:44 PM
#43
As BlackCat once said, "Check to make sure the drive pulley is tight on the blower spindle. A loose drive pulley can generate vibrations that will cause the marbles-in-a-can noise. While you're checking, make sure the other pulleys are mounted correctly and that the belt should be true. "
08-09-2010, 10:56 PM
#44
As BlackCat once said, "Check to make sure the drive pulley is tight on the blower spindle. A loose drive pulley can generate vibrations that will cause the marbles-in-a-can noise. While you're checking, make sure the other pulleys are mounted correctly and that the belt should be true. "
ill double check that but that would cause the oil leak would it?
i have a feeling that the seals and bearings are shot.....
gonna contact vortech in the morning. any idea of rebuild price and turn around time?
also if the blower is completely shot and i was gonna look for another blower what would i specifically look for...? v1/2 CCW or straight and type of discharge.....
08-09-2010, 11:04 PM
#45
ill double check that but that would cause the oil leak would it?
i have a feeling that the seals and bearings are shot.....
gonna contact vortech in the morning. any idea of rebuild price and turn around time?
also if the blower is completely shot and i was gonna look for another blower what would i specifically look for...? v1/2 CCW or straight and type of discharge.....
i have a feeling that the seals and bearings are shot.....
gonna contact vortech in the morning. any idea of rebuild price and turn around time?
also if the blower is completely shot and i was gonna look for another blower what would i specifically look for...? v1/2 CCW or straight and type of discharge.....
A major rebuild I believe is around $600. Minor rebuilds have been reported as low as $370
You want CCW, straight discharge. Blower choice is up to you, but personally I'd get this one as it has the highest efficiency rating. More efficient=less heat=more power
For a little more $$, I believe they can rebuild yours to the specs in the link I provided...
EDIT: Added more cost info...
Last edited by The Wizard; 08-09-2010 at 11:09 PM.
08-09-2010, 11:09 PM
#46
.................................S-Trim.....SC-Trim.....Si-Trim.....E-Trim
Impeller Speed (Max).....50,000.....53,000......55,000......65,00 0
PSIG (Max)..................20..........20............2 6............24
Flow CFM (Max).............1,000.....1,000........1,150.... ....1,150
Horsepower (Approx).....680.........680...........775........ ..750
Isentopic Efficiency.......72%........75%..........78%...... ...76%
The V-2 SQ model is considered the new generation among superchargers. Highly advanced computer designed gears feature an optimized helical profile which allows for near silent operation while providing superior performance. All V-2 SQ units feature a 3.6:1 internal step-up ratio and are direct bolt-on replacements for our V-1 units.
V-2 SQ S-Trim Supercharger:
- Strong low-speed boost along with exceptional mid to high-end flow for the street and strip
- Included in most Vortech supercharging systems
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ SC-Trim Supercharger:
- Impeller speed potential and adiabatic efficiency slightly higher than S-Trim
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
- Delivers efficient airflow up to 680 horsepower
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ Si-Trim Supercharger:
- Extraordinary 78% peak efficiency
- Ideal for latest generation of improved breathing, high-power street and strip engines
- Vastly improved flow and efficiency at high boost levels, providing completely new levels of power gain
V-2 SQ E-Trim Supercharger:
- Ultra high impeller speed and efficiency
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
Impeller Speed (Max).....50,000.....53,000......55,000......65,00 0
PSIG (Max)..................20..........20............2 6............24
Flow CFM (Max).............1,000.....1,000........1,150.... ....1,150
Horsepower (Approx).....680.........680...........775........ ..750
Isentopic Efficiency.......72%........75%..........78%...... ...76%
The V-2 SQ model is considered the new generation among superchargers. Highly advanced computer designed gears feature an optimized helical profile which allows for near silent operation while providing superior performance. All V-2 SQ units feature a 3.6:1 internal step-up ratio and are direct bolt-on replacements for our V-1 units.
V-2 SQ S-Trim Supercharger:
- Strong low-speed boost along with exceptional mid to high-end flow for the street and strip
- Included in most Vortech supercharging systems
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ SC-Trim Supercharger:
- Impeller speed potential and adiabatic efficiency slightly higher than S-Trim
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
- Delivers efficient airflow up to 680 horsepower
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ Si-Trim Supercharger:
- Extraordinary 78% peak efficiency
- Ideal for latest generation of improved breathing, high-power street and strip engines
- Vastly improved flow and efficiency at high boost levels, providing completely new levels of power gain
V-2 SQ E-Trim Supercharger:
- Ultra high impeller speed and efficiency
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
08-09-2010, 11:15 PM
#47
ok now is there any way to get a wrench or something down between the plate to check that bolt? there is like no clearance lol....
before i bolted it up i checked it and seemed tight but i couldn't get the pulley NOT to spin when trying to tighten it because i'm not the huik lol...
before i bolted it up i checked it and seemed tight but i couldn't get the pulley NOT to spin when trying to tighten it because i'm not the huik lol...
08-11-2010, 12:30 AM
#49
also don't make it sound like you've sent me numerous PM's regarding the MAF and sounding like i'm ignoring you. You PM'ed me at 920pm and posted in my thread 2hrs later......
08-13-2010, 03:29 PM
#52
Why does it seem like every blower needs a rebuild. I seen cars supercharged for years and they're fine but on org they all need rebuilds.
Its pretty hard to overboost them less you have a extended rev limiter and have like a 13psi pulley
Its pretty hard to overboost them less you have a extended rev limiter and have like a 13psi pulley
08-13-2010, 07:32 PM
#53
You can over spin them, and since a lot of these blowers have been handed down from person to person over time they can see a lot of abuse.
What type of superchargers are on these cars youve seen?
08-16-2010, 10:38 AM
#54
.................................S-Trim.....SC-Trim.....Si-Trim.....E-Trim
Impeller Speed (Max).....50,000.....53,000......55,000......65,00 0
PSIG (Max)..................20..........20............2 6............24
Flow CFM (Max).............1,000.....1,000........1,150.... ....1,150
Horsepower (Approx).....680.........680...........775........ ..750
Isentopic Efficiency.......72%........75%..........78%...... ...76%
The V-2 SQ model is considered the new generation among superchargers. Highly advanced computer designed gears feature an optimized helical profile which allows for near silent operation while providing superior performance. All V-2 SQ units feature a 3.6:1 internal step-up ratio and are direct bolt-on replacements for our V-1 units.
V-2 SQ S-Trim Supercharger:
- Strong low-speed boost along with exceptional mid to high-end flow for the street and strip
- Included in most Vortech supercharging systems
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ SC-Trim Supercharger:
- Impeller speed potential and adiabatic efficiency slightly higher than S-Trim
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
- Delivers efficient airflow up to 680 horsepower
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ Si-Trim Supercharger:
- Extraordinary 78% peak efficiency
- Ideal for latest generation of improved breathing, high-power street and strip engines
- Vastly improved flow and efficiency at high boost levels, providing completely new levels of power gain
V-2 SQ E-Trim Supercharger:
- Ultra high impeller speed and efficiency
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
Impeller Speed (Max).....50,000.....53,000......55,000......65,00 0
PSIG (Max)..................20..........20............2 6............24
Flow CFM (Max).............1,000.....1,000........1,150.... ....1,150
Horsepower (Approx).....680.........680...........775........ ..750
Isentopic Efficiency.......72%........75%..........78%...... ...76%
The V-2 SQ model is considered the new generation among superchargers. Highly advanced computer designed gears feature an optimized helical profile which allows for near silent operation while providing superior performance. All V-2 SQ units feature a 3.6:1 internal step-up ratio and are direct bolt-on replacements for our V-1 units.
V-2 SQ S-Trim Supercharger:
- Strong low-speed boost along with exceptional mid to high-end flow for the street and strip
- Included in most Vortech supercharging systems
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ SC-Trim Supercharger:
- Impeller speed potential and adiabatic efficiency slightly higher than S-Trim
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
- Delivers efficient airflow up to 680 horsepower
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
V-2 SQ Si-Trim Supercharger:
- Extraordinary 78% peak efficiency
- Ideal for latest generation of improved breathing, high-power street and strip engines
- Vastly improved flow and efficiency at high boost levels, providing completely new levels of power gain
V-2 SQ E-Trim Supercharger:
- Ultra high impeller speed and efficiency
- Low-friction impeller seal allows for "upstream" throttle draw-through applications
- Physical dimensions equal to S-trim
any advantage to running a V1 vs. v2? I know the V1 is louder....but what are the actual differences....???
08-17-2010, 06:56 PM
#57
true....i'm def. regretting not getting the other SC kit or turbo kit.
does anyone know what the proper belt size is for the 2.87 or 2.62 pulley? i'm thinking of throwing one of those on while everything is off and blower is getting redone.
also as far as fuel, i'm going to hook up my fmu, but honestly how far u think the fmu, walbro pump and vafcII will take me? as far as boost? Right now i zeroed out my settings for my all motor setup when i threw the sc kit on and before i threw it on w/ no correction i was at 10.3 at WOT. i'm thinking 8psi won't be an issue but i wanted to do a little more like 10-12....
does anyone know what the proper belt size is for the 2.87 or 2.62 pulley? i'm thinking of throwing one of those on while everything is off and blower is getting redone.
also as far as fuel, i'm going to hook up my fmu, but honestly how far u think the fmu, walbro pump and vafcII will take me? as far as boost? Right now i zeroed out my settings for my all motor setup when i threw the sc kit on and before i threw it on w/ no correction i was at 10.3 at WOT. i'm thinking 8psi won't be an issue but i wanted to do a little more like 10-12....
08-17-2010, 07:46 PM
#58
true....i'm def. regretting not getting the other SC kit or turbo kit.
does anyone know what the proper belt size is for the 2.87 or 2.62 pulley? i'm thinking of throwing one of those on while everything is off and blower is getting redone.
also as far as fuel, i'm going to hook up my fmu, but honestly how far u think the fmu, walbro pump and vafcII will take me? as far as boost? Right now i zeroed out my settings for my all motor setup when i threw the sc kit on and before i threw it on w/ no correction i was at 10.3 at WOT. i'm thinking 8psi won't be an issue but i wanted to do a little more like 10-12....
does anyone know what the proper belt size is for the 2.87 or 2.62 pulley? i'm thinking of throwing one of those on while everything is off and blower is getting redone.
also as far as fuel, i'm going to hook up my fmu, but honestly how far u think the fmu, walbro pump and vafcII will take me? as far as boost? Right now i zeroed out my settings for my all motor setup when i threw the sc kit on and before i threw it on w/ no correction i was at 10.3 at WOT. i'm thinking 8psi won't be an issue but i wanted to do a little more like 10-12....
If I were you, Id get the car up and running good on mild boost before going all out.
08-17-2010, 09:20 PM
#59
right i understand that but it was "up and running" before except for the major bearing noise and oil leak lol,....
just trying to get opinions as far as what people r using for tuning/fuel etc....
just trying to get opinions as far as what people r using for tuning/fuel etc....
08-17-2010, 11:00 PM
#60
darn, wish i woulda got here quicker. i had a similar issue with mine being "loud", and one night it blew oil everywhere also. the seal behind that pulley came "loose" so i had to tap it back in and "seal" it. and its held up great since then, and it got ALOT quieter. maybe with the loose seal it didnt have the oil pressure it needed for the bearings and thats why it was loud? idk, so i wouldve said to make sure the seal was in there good and to seal it. if it was just rebuilt, then that couldve been something overlooked by the rebuilder. (mine was also rebuilt before i bought it on the org). but too late i guess, and i suppose youre doing it the "right" way anyways. good luck tho
08-18-2010, 02:15 AM
#61
I think a vafc2 with the fmu might be good for 7 psi, but honestly , i think you should sell the your alum pulley, vafc, and stack up for a emu... if not im pretty sure the vafc with bigger injectors may do the trick, id just worry about timing when you go past 7 psi, but that will depend i think on how much power you make, may ping at 7 psi or 10psi... meth kit may help out if you dont have timing control.
08-18-2010, 04:54 AM
#62
If you really are considering going to the 2.87 or even smaller pulley your going to need to pull timing, or you can run a bit rich.Running larger injectors with the VAFC will give you that ability. Not the most ideal setup though.
The most reliable way to do it is to have a proper fuel setup and with an EMS to tune with.
You do have a WB dont you?
09-02-2010, 07:04 AM
#64
aight quick question guys.....as far as the supercharger pulley. The one that was on the car was screwed.....so anyway i found the LAST one ever from the original stillen supercharger kit brand new, but my question is
what pulley(s) can i use for more boost because vortech said that stillen machines their pullies down and there for could not use vortechs pullies. I was planning on getting the 3.125 pulley like i had and a 2.87 or so. now i guess i have to run the "stock" stillen size pulley. What is that size again? about 6psi..?
what pulley(s) can i use for more boost because vortech said that stillen machines their pullies down and there for could not use vortechs pullies. I was planning on getting the 3.125 pulley like i had and a 2.87 or so. now i guess i have to run the "stock" stillen size pulley. What is that size again? about 6psi..?
09-03-2010, 11:17 AM
#65
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/VOR-2A036312/
Here is where I ordered a new 3.125 pulley when I messed mine up a few weeks ago. I believe any 6-rib pulley from Vortech will work. I installed this one on my V1 and it was an exact fit. The 3.125 will give you 10-11psi depending if you are running a CAI or not....the stock pulley will give you about 6psi
Here is where I ordered a new 3.125 pulley when I messed mine up a few weeks ago. I believe any 6-rib pulley from Vortech will work. I installed this one on my V1 and it was an exact fit. The 3.125 will give you 10-11psi depending if you are running a CAI or not....the stock pulley will give you about 6psi
09-03-2010, 11:26 AM
#66
aight quick question guys.....as far as the supercharger pulley. The one that was on the car was screwed.....so anyway i found the LAST one ever from the original stillen supercharger kit brand new, but my question is
what pulley(s) can i use for more boost because vortech said that stillen machines their pullies down and there for could not use vortechs pullies. I was planning on getting the 3.125 pulley like i had and a 2.87 or so. now i guess i have to run the "stock" stillen size pulley. What is that size again? about 6psi..?
what pulley(s) can i use for more boost because vortech said that stillen machines their pullies down and there for could not use vortechs pullies. I was planning on getting the 3.125 pulley like i had and a 2.87 or so. now i guess i have to run the "stock" stillen size pulley. What is that size again? about 6psi..?
Stock size is 3.61 (6psi).
09-17-2010, 06:49 AM
#69
ok i just ordered the 3.125 pulley for my "new" v2 blower. What belt size do i need? dont' say search because i did and found the gates number but it comes across to a v belt vs. a serp belt.
Lemme know what you all run. thanks
Lemme know what you all run. thanks
09-17-2010, 07:43 AM
#70
this is taken from the stickies. I have a V1 with a Gatorback belt on it and a 3.125 pulley I can get the length when I get home tonight for you. Does Advanced auto sell the gatorbacks there? Youre the guy who works there right? I brough the old black max up there to get some hex sockets..they worked well thanks.
Gates belt sizes for V2:
3.60 to 3.33 - K060710
3.25 to 3.125 - K060705
3.00 to 2.87 - K060703
Posted by the V1 moderator Delio
Well for a fact I can tell you that anything @ 3.25 too and including ASP's 3.0" pulley will use the 6 rib 695 length. I think that is the stock belt in the V1 kit which means it will work with the 3.33, 3.48, and 3.6, but I didn't buy the kit new so I can't speak for sure.
Gates belt sizes for V2:
3.60 to 3.33 - K060710
3.25 to 3.125 - K060705
3.00 to 2.87 - K060703
Posted by the V1 moderator Delio
Well for a fact I can tell you that anything @ 3.25 too and including ASP's 3.0" pulley will use the 6 rib 695 length. I think that is the stock belt in the V1 kit which means it will work with the 3.33, 3.48, and 3.6, but I didn't buy the kit new so I can't speak for sure.
09-17-2010, 08:11 AM
#71
As justin has posted, this is well documented in the SC stickies
09-25-2010, 09:33 PM
#73
ok new blower is up and running!!!! only one small issue. of course the belt tracking is off. everything is line up perfect except the little black pulley on the bottom of the plate and the alt pulley. the belt was off by 1 rib. it didn't seem like it was continuing to come off but the track was def a little off. i know other people have had similar issues. I thinking the problem is the little black pulley. has anyone put a shim or something behind it to bring it out in the line of the belt track? thanks....i'll try and post pics tomm. i'm beat but i'll be up early once again working on it....
only one small issue. of course the belt tracking is off. everything is line up perfect except the little black pulley on the bottom of the plate and the alt pulley. the belt was off by 1 rib. it didn't seem like it was continuing to come off but the track was def a little off. i know other people have had similar issues. I thinking the problem is the little black pulley. has anyone put a shim or something behind it to bring it out in the line of the belt track? thanks....i'll try and post pics tomm. i'm beat but i'll be up early once again working on it....
09-27-2010, 07:35 AM
#74
ok guys, finally got my new blower from vortech.....fully polished v2 sq si trim with v2 plate painted gold w/ 11lb. pulley
lemme know what you all think
i plan on re-routing the oil line from the bottom once i get a new fitting.....
lemme know what you all think
i plan on re-routing the oil line from the bottom once i get a new fitting.....
09-27-2010, 09:05 AM
#76
thanks though yea i kinda like the gold and polish contrast but i took the damn thing on/off like 4 times to get the belt alignment correct....
09-27-2010, 10:33 AM
#79
al, which one would you suggest b/c that bov came w/ the kit and i know it needs to be replaced.....when im partial throttle and let off in gear it constantly vents unless i push in the clutch which leads me to believe that the air isn't escaping fast enough.....
thanks though yea i kinda like the gold and polish contrast but i took the damn thing on/off like 4 times to get the belt alignment correct....
thanks though yea i kinda like the gold and polish contrast but i took the damn thing on/off like 4 times to get the belt alignment correct....
Go with the "Mondo BOV" from Vortech.
09-27-2010, 11:42 AM
#80
the filter is coming....lol i was iffy bout driving it down to school yesterday w/ out a filter but i could get anything to fit....how did u guys get urs to fit? where did u move the fuse box...etc...thanks