Lumbee1

and the answer is .....
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

Haterz

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I have used these tires in 235/40/18 for almost a year now, and they have have impressed both me and my friends. When my car was stock, the factory BS tires would easily spin from a stop especially in the rain. As I started to add mods, the tires just couldn't keep up. Then I went with 18's and nitto 555s and it made a world of difference, but I sold that set and bought lighter wheels with the Wanlis. I was impressed all around, they had about the same traction as the nittos from a launch, but had better handling on the turns and much better handling in wet conditions. As for the sidewall issue, they have a recess that the lip of the rim sits in, flush with the tire, so you should be fine. Wear hasn't been a problem for me, just rotate them often if you drive aggressively. I'm getting 19s as soon as I find some wheels that I like that are lightweight and will definitely be going with the Wanlis again.

ThurzNite

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I understand this's your opinion. What's your opinion based on?
Jae

Lumbee1

How many more miles could you get out of the Wanli's if you kept them? I have been considering them since they are so cheap on ebay.

Haterz

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I'm not sure how many more miles they have on them. They really don't show any unusual wear after about 8000 miles. I looked them over this morning and they look like they will go a couple more years if they are kept at proper inflation and rotated often.

K Pazzo 6

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thanks for post Haterz....good info to know....

maxspeed96CT

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does any place else besides ebay sell these, just curious, did anyone look?

pablosal

Ok, there's two sellers, one says 200 treadwear the other says 280 and for the same tire & size. What gives. Here are the links.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2463825207

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2459967772

Who's telling the truth???

phatmax95

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Well the second guy is about 45mins away from me and I am going to get some of these wanli tires sometime soon so I hope he's right...

pablosal

Can you let me know what treadwear you receive. I hope its 280. Thanks

black5spdmax

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Treadwear rating means nothing!!!

the RE92 has a treadwear of 160 and my AVS sport has a treadwear of 180.

the treadwear is an arbitrary nuber that is stamped on the side of the tyre.

Lumbee1

Exactly! It is a number assigned by the manufacturer. Comparing one treadwear rating on one manufacturers tire to another is BS. Whats worse is comparing two tires from the same manufacturer and knowing the numbers are still BS.

I had a set of Cooper Cobras (treadwear 300) on a minivan that were never rotated. After 9 months (~ 12000 miles) they were bald, both front and back.

limsandy

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And I have Bridgestone ****tenza RE92 (threadwear rating=160) with 20000 miles and still going. Definitely replacing them this spring/summer.


~limsandy

K Pazzo 6

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ok i got these tires last week...damn they look AGGRESIVE....but man that 35 sidewall is looking low....i'm thinking twice now of putting a 35....oh well i bought them...might as well sport them unless i can resell them to someone

MaxSE03

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Do you have any pictures? I just want to see what they look like.

phatmax95

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ebay has good pictures

Lumbee1

Does anyone have these yet? I will be ordering some around summertime.

JeffesonM

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Yeah I'd like to see some pics too once you get them mounted.

As for the sidewall, what is the tradeoff when you've got a 40 sidewall and an overall diameter 10% over stock? Aside from having your speedometer/odometer off, is there anything else?

CCx

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There's the possibility that you'll rub depending on your wheel width, drop, etc.

Some have also said it 'looks stupid' with a 40 series on a 19" wheel....that's in the eye of the beholder, though...as someone said before, it looks a lot stupider to be rocking bent wheels every other week than it does to have an extra .5" of sidewall..

K Pazzo 6

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looks like some people are RUBBING with 245/40/19 http://forums.maxima.org/showpost.ph...60&postcount=5

ok i guess thats a plus for me now that i went with 245/35/19

speedemn

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Any updated feedback on these tires now that some people might have had them on for a while? Dry traction, wet traction, handling, hydroplaning resistance... ?

limsandy

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K Pazzo is still waiting for his HP Evo wheels, and so am I.


~limsandy

phatmax95

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Ok guys I didn't get Wanli. I went for the Nankang which has a 340 treadwear over like 280. (I think). They were like 10-15$ more a tire for the better treadwear so I figured that was worth it.. They are Nankang NS-II. They are really good tires so far actually, I think better than my Sumitomo's. Got them off Ebay for 95$ a piece..

speedemn

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How are they in the wet? Dry traction? Hydro resistance?

Also, do they have rim guard or whatever it is called, so that the lip of our rims are safe in case of accidental curb rubbing?

SEmy2K2go

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There is a new tire/wheel shop near my house called DiPietro Tyre Center that carries the Wanli tires. I stopped in for the first time on Friday to ask about wheels and saw the Wanli tires. (Keep in mind this is a brand new shop) so I asked one of the employees about the Wanli tires and he said he had never heard of them. Guess I won't be buying anything from them in the near future.

About the tires themselves; the tread pattern looked pretty aggressive and a pretty soft compound, but without them being able to answer any questions about them, I still have not generated an opinion.

phatmax95

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They are very good, if not better than my Sumitomo HTRZ11 which was really good. For 95$ a piece they are worth it.. And with a 340 treadwear they should last alot longer..

K Pazzo 6

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Well my rims go on car tomorrow w/ wanli tires....so after I get some first-hand experience w/ tires in couple weeks or months, I'll update this thread.

p.s. I called www.wheelguyz.com & they now sell these Wanli tires & said so far they have only had GOOD reviews on them.

Lumbee1

Treadwear means absolutely nothing. A tire with 300 treadwear could last 10000 miles to 60000 miles. The Blowtenza RE-92 has a treadwear of only 160 yet many members of the org are getting 20000 to 40000 out of the tires. I beat on mine all the time and got 30000 miles and they still have tread left.

What we would like to know is how the tires perform?
Road dynamics:
Ride quality:
Noise:
Cornering Response:
Straightline Traction:
Wet/Dry Comparison:

All this would be extremely helpful for others to make the decision whether to buy these tires or not.

speedemn

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Lumbee1... that would be a good review if guys who have tried it can comment.

I have always thought, with tires - that you get what you pay for... and Wanlis are cheaper. But everybody who has got them has not had 1 bad thing to say about them!

Do they have rim lip protection (I'm not sure what that is called)?

K Pazzo 6

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Road dynamics:
Ride quality: Very good, these tires absorbed quite a few potholes already & did a very good job. No damage to rims or tires.
Noise: Hardly any noise that I can hear....
Cornering Response: I tested these tires doing 65mph on a on-ramp & off-ramp....these tires stuck to the ground like glue.
Straightline Traction: Traction from dead stop is Great....I would say better then my last tires I had (Kumhos Ecsta)
Wet/Dry Comparison: I took car out when it was raining hard to try these tires in wet road.....I tried doing 360's & 180's but tires would catch & grip road....I would say the wet traction is very good.....slamming on brakes from 40mph in rain, the car slid a bit but then it would grip & stop

so far i've had tires for over 4k miles....so far so good.....i'll keep another update in like 5k miles......

20V6

Interesting the treadwear discussion. While I was living in CA I bought a set of Falken 502's for my SAAB 900 turbo. Those were rated 420. Now I'm back in Europe and a year ago I again bought a set of 502's in the same dimension (195/60-15 88H) this time for my Porsche 914... These are rated 240... So to me this is BS! Falken is a japanese tire company, and I don't think they make different rubber for different markets, do you guys? I mean the treadpattern and everything else is exactly the same but the treadwear number???
Anyway, I'm putting on a Finnish brand, Nokian, on my Euro-max (I30) now. You've probably not heard about that company, but it's big in Scandinavia - actually the same company that makes Nokia cellphones!!!
http://www.nokiantyres.com/passenger...e=NOKIAN+NRZi#

hadman

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Just thought I'd resurrect this old thread to make a correction.
I sell WanLi tires.
The picture you showed above here is not a copy of the Yokohama AVS Sport. It is a copy of the Dunlop SP Sport 9000.
However, WanLi does make the 'carbon copy' of the Yokohama AVS as well.

To tell the difference between the WanLi you are looking at:

WanLi 1088 (copy of Dunlop SP Sport 9000)
WanLi 1099 (copy of Yokohama AVS Sport)

As for comparisons... Kumho and Hankook, they have nothing over WanLi in this level of tire. In fact, Kumho still uses a compund they used 8 years ago when they had many warranty issues for bulging. They are notoriously bad in the rain. WanLi copied the Dunlop and Yokhama tread patterns in particular because quite simply -- they work. They are proven.

Before you ask my prices -- I'm in Toronto, Canada. Unless you are local, it's not worth your time asking me for quotes.
But if you are local...

WanLi 1088 - Carbon Copy of Dunlop SP Sport 9000


WanLi 1099 - Carbon Copy of Yokhama AVS Sport


Either set is $490 CAD installed and balanced for 225/45/17

Cliff Clavin

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Have you had any wear issues with them? Especially wearing out faster than other tires with the same treadwear rating? No one seems to be able to say how well these wear.

How about any defective tires, etc?

I thought about getting some of these, as they DO have a very good "carbon copy" tread design of the Yokohama (this was the first one I was looking into) and now the Dunlops. From the research I have done, the company has been making large truck tires for years, so hopefully they know a little about rubber compounds and stuff like that.

hadman

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We've actually had no warranty issues, or complaints regarding wear.
WanLi is using the latest in silica compund, compared to Kumho, which still using technology used in it's street tires from 8 years ago. They have also failed to upgrade their tread design. It's a block tread and it simply... sucks.

Before I started selling tires, like most people I used to use "opinion/rating" pages on various retail tire sites. There are several problems with that I find. And this is with regard to ANY tire...

a) You have half the people saying "awful tires" and the other half saying "best tire ever!".
b) Has the driver rating the tire ever had an alignment done, or even know what it is? Do they rotate their tires?
c) How does the reviewer drive? Like a moron, like grandpa? Is his traction in the rain poor because he is braking like a Porsche at 80 clicks?
d) etc etc...

I take reviews from consumers with a grain of salt. The only thing that might help in these opinion pages is when a tire is overwhelmingly popular, or unpopular respectively. But this still doesn't mean you will be satisfied.
People who rave, generally just put the tire on, and haven't waited out a full term to give a more accurate review. They fail to keep in mind that all rubber usually feels pretty darn good when new.

Cliff Clavin

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Thanks. I am still going to keep them in consideration.

My biggest concern would be customers complaining because of wear or warranty issues.

I don't drive my car very much (less than 2000 miles a year -- that's not a type, either 2k not 20k) and a set of tires like this should still last me 5 years. I do need an alignment and some new rims, though. One of my rims has a bend in it and they don't make the rims any more.

Haterz

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I've been trying to wear out my set for over 2 years (I posted on this thread back in 04) and they still look good. With proper inflation, tire rotation, and alignment, wear isn't a problem.

Haterz

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hadman, I need more straight line traction and was considering Kumho Ecsta MX in 245/35/19 or the Wanli 1099s in the same size, I currently have the 1099s in 235/40/18. What would be the best overall choice? I would also like to know if you knew the weight of the Wanlis in that size?

navajo

Every set of Wanli's I have tried to work on have had stress cracks in the sidewall.I feel the sidewalls aren't strong enough. I.M.O

hadman

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They are both good tires. I don't think you'll gain anything extra going with the Kumho Ecsta, and you've already had positive experience with Wanli, and Wanli is also cheaper, but it's your call. It's really the 711/712 series that bites I.M.O.

ihadahonda

i can get 225/40/18 wanli's for less than $90 buxx a piece. WANLI=MY NEXT TIRE!