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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 12:06 PM
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Time for NEW TIRES!!!!

ok guys, im ready to get 4 set of tires... i heard good things about falken 512's.
do you recomended anything else? How about the diameter?
i need good tires for snow and rain.

thanks!
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 02:48 PM
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If money isn't a problem, get the Michelin Pilot Sports. Otherwise, get the Falken's. I have them and they're Grrrreat!
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 02:56 PM
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what you got? Flaken or Michelin? what diameter you have?
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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I have the Falken Ziex-512. 225/50/17

Here's the best place to get them for the best price.
I wish I would've known when I got mine. I paid alot more.
http://www.vulcantire.com/
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 04:04 PM
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toyo proxies 4s

235/45/17

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Old Sep 18, 2004 | 04:34 PM
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I heard the Falken 512s were great.

BTW, I thought you sold the Max and went to Greece.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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Originally Posted by SR20-TURBO
toyo proxies 4s

235/45/17

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does that size differ from the 225/50's much...or does it just about even out to be the same?
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyd
does that size differ from the 225/50's much...or does it just about even out to be the same?
It's almost exactly the same

Also the BFGoodrich Traction T/A 235/45R17 are also good tires. Only have about 150 miles on them. These are soo much better than the OEM tires.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Originally Posted by 2k3TitaniumSe
I heard the Falken 512s were great.

BTW, I thought you sold the Max and went to Greece.
I might not go!!!
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:26 PM
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Originally Posted by joeyd
does that size differ from the 225/50's much...or does it just about even out to be the same?
They are 2% smaller or about 1/2 inch shorter, within specs.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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512's are great and for the $ you can't beat em...
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:32 PM
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Funny, I just logged in tonight to see what I can find about other people's tires. I need some too. Here is my list...

First pick on top:
235/45/17

Mich. Pilot Sport A/S $192/ea (tirerack)
Pirelli Pzero Nero $122/ea (Tirerack)
Yokahama AVS dB S2 $144/ea (Tirerack)
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 $144/ea (tirerack)
Falken Ziex ZE 512 $102/ea (Tirerack) Found to be better price at Vulcan $89
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 $105/ea (Summer tires?) (Tiresdirect.com)

So please provide input. I will pay the high price for the Mich. but if there is a comparable tire listed (I know the pirelli is) then I will save a couple hundered.

Any input?
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 05:48 PM
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I put on the Falken Ziex 512s just a year ago now. The standard size, 225/50/17. I got them from Discount Tire. Their price was good but they shipped to my home (c.c. billing address) instead of the service station that I asked them to ship to.

They are good tires. They are vastly better in wet and snow conditions than the Potenzas (not too difficult) although because of the width I do still see occasional hydroplaning in heavy rain on interstates, but at ~15 mph faster than the Potenzas. (You can at least keep up with traffic.) No all-season tires are really going to replace snow tires but they are OK in snow if you have reasonable expectations and drive carefully. I would say they are fine for the usual urban/suburban conditions but if you are planning on attacking mountain roads in the snow you need dedicated snow tires. The Falkens are not particularly quiet - about the same or marginally louder than the Potenzas, but acceptable. I could not detect that they feel any different from the Potenzas on dry roads - maybe if you drove two cars back-to-back on the same road you could tell a difference but I don't think it would be pronounced.

I had them installed at a normally-reliable service station in my area. However these are directional tires and one was installed backward. (which they fixed the next day, quite embarrassed about it.) They also pressurized them to the maximum pressure on the sidewall - 44 psi. When I picked up the car my first impression was of a much harsher ride than the Potenzas, actually unpleasant, but after I adjusted the pressure they were OK - but that's why I never got the chance to do a direct comparo with the Potenzas. So, check your pressures and check the rotation directions after you have them installed.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by dblrr900
Funny, I just logged in tonight to see what I can find about other people's tires. I need some too. Here is my list...

First pick on top:
235/45/17

Mich. Pilot Sport A/S $192/ea (tirerack)
Pirelli Pzero Nero $122/ea (Tirerack)
Yokahama AVS dB S2 $144/ea (Tirerack)
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 $144/ea (tirerack)
Falken Ziex ZE 512 $102/ea (Tirerack) Found to be better price at Vulcan $89
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 $105/ea (Summer tires?) (Tiresdirect.com)

So please provide input. I will pay the high price for the Mich. but if there is a comparable tire listed (I know the pirelli is) then I will save a couple hundered.

Any input?
I can say Michelin is better tires compared to most of them. Haven't had any exp w/ Kumho and Dunlop though
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:28 PM
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Thanks for the price list, I needed new tires also.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:34 PM
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If it's all-season high performance tires you need:

Low cost: Sumitomo HTR+

Moderate Cost: Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S

High Cost: Michelin Pilot Sport All-Season
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:37 PM
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There is little doubt that the Pilots are probably the best all season tire out there for the Max. The question is: Are they worth the extra cost? In my worthless opinion, I do not think so. I went with the Falken 512's. So far so good. I have not drove them in rain or snow yet, so I cannot comment on anything other than dry conditions. I do like them though. My decisions were limited because I have a GLE. You SE owners think you have few options, try getting a tire within safey specs of a 215/55/17. I could only go up to the 225/50/17, so it was the Falkens, Pilots, or the OEM Turanzas. If I had a SE and with all of the research I have done, I would have probably went with the Pirelli Nero's, Continental ContiExtreme Contacts, or the Falkens. The way I look at it is, anything will be better than stock tires in adverse conditions.
Just my 2 pennies.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 07:52 PM
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I did Kumho ECSTA KH11 with the stock 225/50/17. They are great for the price. I am very happy with them.
Old Sep 18, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Well, after adding my list, I looked up the Toyo Proxes 4. Very nice tire. Does anyone else have experience with these tired other than SR20-Turbo???

They are a bit harder to find and Edge does seem to have the best price. I think these might be a good choice... Right now I have narrowed it down to the Toyos, Pirelli, and the Falkens. I have Mich. Pilot Sport on my VW (NON A/S) and they are awesome, but the cost is the question. For a summer tire, oh yes, but for my all season tire... I think I am going to save a few bux.
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Bridgestone LS-H or LS-Z series. They are one of the best for overall performance tires in the market, IMO. FYI: I had logged more than 44K on the LS-H series tires and they are still performed admirably! They should last me atleast another 15K or more.
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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im thinking for toyo proxes also...
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 01:32 AM
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Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:36 AM
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I heard Falken 512's are on back order for 5-6 month/weeks. So, it may not be a option.
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 06:55 AM
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Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S. Read the tirerack reviews on the this badazz.

DO NOT GET NITTO 555's. They suck. Hot dry traction is good but not great and wet traction is BAD (still not a bad as the slippery-when-wet "grab your ballz, you is about to die" Craptenzas). The Nittos ride quality is great and sidewall stiffness is just right but this is NOT a performance tire and NOT a wet conditions or winter weather tire.

I will be buying the Pirellis ASAP. I have heard that Falkens ride smooth but the tradeoff is a soft sidewall.
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 07:19 AM
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Originally Posted by dblrr900
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 $144/ea (tirerack)
Hehe... I have these on my SE-R and LOVE them. I'm on my second set now. I put the first set on and I think it was the second winter I had them on, I pushed about 12 inches of snow up a hill! There was a freak snowfall in late March in NJ and it caught everyone off guard. I was at work in the city figuring it wouldn't stick out by my parents' but it did - 12 inches! They live on a pretty good-sized hill and the car pushed all the snow right up the hill. The car gave out before the tires did (so much snow got pushed up into the engine bay that the intake temp sensor froze and the car stalled!) All my friends bust my chops because I call them supertires. But they are! Great in the snow, wet, dry... all-around. Being somewhat careful they lasted me 2.5 years or so probably 35-40k miles. I'd highly recommend these! Think I'll get them on my fiancee's car when she's ready to shed the potenzas. I haven't had TOO much trouble with them but we'll see when the winter comes
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:06 AM
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im thinking for toyo proxes also...
get them, you will not be disappointed
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dblrr900
Funny, I just logged in tonight to see what I can find about other people's tires. I need some too. Here is my list...

First pick on top:
235/45/17

Mich. Pilot Sport A/S $192/ea (tirerack)
Pirelli Pzero Nero $122/ea (Tirerack)
Yokahama AVS dB S2 $144/ea (Tirerack)
Dunlop SP Sport 5000 $144/ea (tirerack)
Falken Ziex ZE 512 $102/ea (Tirerack) Found to be better price at Vulcan $89
Kumho Ecsta Supra 712 $105/ea (Summer tires?) (Tiresdirect.com)

So please provide input. I will pay the high price for the Mich. but if there is a comparable tire listed (I know the pirelli is) then I will save a couple hundered.

Any input?

wow, thats expensive, i got my kunhos for bout 90 a tire
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 09:37 AM
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I think I have chosen the Proxes... I like the pattern and the cost. Even if they only last 2 years they are half the price of the tire I really want. In the spring I am going to 19s on summer sports so, the stock rollers will just need to be good in colder weather.
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 10:51 AM
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well, im confused guys!!!
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Pirelli Pzero Nero
Yokahama AVS ES100's

2 of the best tires IMO
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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guys, just give me sites for Toyo, Yokohama, Pirelli, Falken, Michellin. Cheap sites of course
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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i did not like the zeix 512, try pirelli pzero nero almost as good as the michelin pilot sports
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:47 PM
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Blkmax... You keep your car from drowning up there on Friday?? Those floods up in Pitt were crazy...
Old Sep 19, 2004 | 05:51 PM
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Greek. Every site you need was listed in this post.

www.Tirerack.com
www.discounttiredirect.com
www.edgeracing.com
www.vulcantire.com
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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toyo proxes 4 looks nice but treadwear is only 300
Old Sep 20, 2004 | 04:15 AM
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check out these reviews...

the Falkens did "ok", the Potenza's did horribly, and the Pilot Sport A/S underperformed (not even including the high price) the guy at National Tire and Battery even said that Michelin was having problems with the Pilot Sport A/S

check out these reviews from people who have owned the particular tire on 1010tires.com. I ended up going with the Toyo Proxes 4.


Review of Falken 512s on 1010tires:
http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews...=Ziex+ZE%2D512

Review of Toyo Proxes 4 on 1010tires:
http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews...model=Proxes+4

Pilot Sport A/S Review:
http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews...AE+Sport+A%2FS

Bridgestone RE92 Review:
http://www.1010tires.com/tirereviews...l=Potenza+RE92[/quote]

-vq
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I have Kuhmo Ecsta 712s. I love them. They have really good traction. Even when it is wet, they hook up good cornering and I've never had them hydroplane. The only bad part is they slide on wet pavement slowing down. They hook up fine accelterating but don't do any hard stops on wet pavement.
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I just ordered Toyo Proxes 4 from town fire tire, ~687 all together, balance, alignment and all kind sh*t
Old Sep 28, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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they just put my toyo proxes 4 on my max, im so happy that i dont have anymore the blowtenza... i got only 1 mile with them but so fas so good!!
I will tell you guys more later. Thanks for the help!
Old Sep 30, 2004 | 08:33 AM
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I just picked up a set of proxes from edgeracing.com $460 shipped. Will be here next week. Not a bad deal since every local shop here has at least $60 more per tire.



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