zgrm100

Okay guys. I see that stock, the choice are pretty limited. I think this is the only Toyo tire that is the same specs as my original tire. So what do you think of this tire? I havent found much info on it, but everyone seems to love the Toyo Proxies 4. I understand those are not OEM specs on my wheels (2001SE 17"). So what would you guys say is the difference between these two tires. I am looking for all-season so I would aprpeciate some help. Also how much should these cost me including the balance and install at a shop? Thanks in advance.

SEturner

Funny you should ask, I just got these installed (225/50/17) last Saturday.
So far, I really like them. They are quiet, have good response to steering, and do not wallow in steady state turns. I have not experienced snow yet. I paid $671 installed, lifetime balance, rotation and road hazard and including tax. These are far better tires than the Kumho KH11s they replaced. I got 42k miles out of my RE92s, but in 20k miles on the Kumhos, they wore extremely unevenly. They all had a "sawtooth" pattern, and when I lifted the front end of car up to rotate tires, I noticed the fronts wore in a "W" shape from left to right. The tire was worn out in the center and edges only (pressure was 32). Toyo also offers a 45 day or 500 mile test period that will refund all the money including tax and install if you do not like them. These are quality tires.

CCS2k1Max

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How does the TPT's turn in compare with the OEM crapenzas, about the same, faster, slower? When I went from the re92s to the Falken 512s, the steering went from sharp to very sluggish and turns were very "wallowing", as you put it. I don't want to make that mistake ever again.

SEturner

Its kind of hard to compare to the RE92s, as it has been over a year. I also now have illuminas and maxspeeds, which changes things. I thought the KH11s had better wet grip, same handling, and harsher ride(with original springs) as RE92s. I also think the TPTs ride less harsh, are quieter, quicker turn in, stick in the wet as well, than the KH11s. The main thing I am worried about after my experience with the Kumhos is treadwear eveness. The TPTs have a 65k treadwear warranty and I believe a 400 wear rating.

They also appear to be wider than the RE92s and KH11s, even though they are OE size.

With the Kumhos, entering a medium speed sweeper, the car seemed to require more steering corrections to maintain the line. The TPTs, when I get
the line set, seems to require little to no "sawing" on the steering wheel.

zgrm100

I see, thanks. So do you guys think that I should go to a private installer for thi, or some place like Costco or sears? Aso any idea if Iw ould have to wheel alignment after adding new tires? Also I was aiming for no more than $500 installed, but it seems far from possible, right?