Toyo Proxes 4 or Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S?
07-18-2005, 06:31 AM
#1
Toyo Proxes 4 or Pirelli P-Zero Nero M+S?
I've narrowed it down to these two brands after checking over the 1010tires.com reviews. I want good grip in wet and dry and still have a really quiet tire. Both are rated about the same and the price locally is exactly the same. Which would you choose? My 512's are at the wear bars already and I'll have to get replacements very soon. The 512's are starting to feel odd.
07-18-2005, 07:23 AM
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As far as I understand it they perform about the same with the Proxes being cheaper and lighter, but the pirellis lasting longer. I am trying to make the same decision myself and I am leaning slightly towards the proxes. However you really cant go wrong with either.
07-18-2005, 07:58 AM
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MaxRB8 bought his cheap at some place off East Hastings and Commercial Drive or somewhere in that neck of thw woods, but I don't believe he got tire rotations/balancing/repairs thrown in, which I would want.
Also try Volco Tires & Wheels in Richmond (604) 270-4727. I priced out some Toyo TPTs there some time back. The Proxes and T1S won't fit my wheels.
Also try Volco Tires & Wheels in Richmond (604) 270-4727. I priced out some Toyo TPTs there some time back. The Proxes and T1S won't fit my wheels.
07-18-2005, 08:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Bobo
MaxRB8 bought his cheap at some place off East Hastings and Commercial Drive or somewhere in that neck of thw woods, but I don't believe he got tire rotations/balancing/repairs thrown in, which I would want.
Also try Volco Tires & Wheels in Richmond (604) 270-4727. I priced out some Toyo TPTs there some time back. The Proxes and T1S won't fit my wheels.
Also try Volco Tires & Wheels in Richmond (604) 270-4727. I priced out some Toyo TPTs there some time back. The Proxes and T1S won't fit my wheels.
07-18-2005, 09:24 AM
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Since the tires are warrantied for 50,000kms and I only have 11,393kms remaining, is it worth it to go back and put in a claim? They sell only Bridgestones, BFGoodrich, Federal, Falken, Michelin, Kumho and Yokos. No Toyos nor Pirelli.
07-18-2005, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCat
Since the tires are warrantied for 50,000kms and I only have 11,393kms remaining, is it worth it to go back and put in a claim? They sell only Bridgestones, BFGoodrich, Federal, Falken, Michelin, Kumho and Yokos. No Toyos nor Pirelli.
07-18-2005, 09:52 AM
#10
Originally Posted by Bobo
Does that compell you to buy the same tires again and apply the warranty against that purchase? Where did you buy the Falkens?
Right, forgettaboutit!
07-18-2005, 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by BlackCat
No, I definitely wouldn't buy these Falkens again.
Right, forgettaboutit!
Right, forgettaboutit!
07-18-2005, 10:31 AM
#12
Originally Posted by Bobo
I understand that. I'm just wondering how the warranty works and where you bought the tires. Did you get them at National Tire out in Delta?
07-18-2005, 10:56 AM
#13
Ive had the Pirelli PZero Nero M+S on for about 10k miles and Im completely satisified with them. I paid $127/tire + $50 for shipping bring my total to around $550 shipped. Oh yeah, I got (235/45/17) and have NO regrets. Good luck with your choice.
07-18-2005, 11:07 AM
#14
Originally Posted by Mizike
Ive had the Pirelli PZero Nero M+S on for about 10k miles and Im completely satisified with them. I paid $127/tire + $50 for shipping bring my total to around $550 shipped. Oh yeah, I got (235/45/17) and have NO regrets. Good luck with your choice.
07-18-2005, 11:40 AM
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07-18-2005, 04:03 PM
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i have the pirellis on my car....IMO, they don't stick as well as I expected....but i am not too disappointed in them....they are cheap and effective...I got them for $700 installed with warranty (245/40/18)
07-18-2005, 07:00 PM
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Got my Toyo's from www.edgeracing.com. There the cheapest on the net.Both are great tires.Cant go wrong with either
07-19-2005, 04:22 PM
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mm347 was kind enough to give me a website to check out and it was the cheapest price for Toyo Proxes 4 I've come across so far. (I was looking for 215/55/16's) but you could give it a looksee to see if it's cheaper for you too.
happy hunting.
toyos for less
happy hunting.
toyos for less
07-20-2005, 08:01 AM
#20
Originally Posted by steven88
i have the pirellis on my car....IMO, they don't stick as well as I expected....but i am not too disappointed in them....they are cheap and effective...I got them for $700 installed with warranty (245/40/18)
except mine are 215/40/18
07-20-2005, 10:56 AM
#21
Originally Posted by steven88
i have the pirellis on my car....IMO, they don't stick as well as I expected....but i am not too disappointed in them....they are cheap and effective...I got them for $700 installed with warranty (245/40/18)
they wear out a little to quick imo.. I have them in a 235/40/18.
07-20-2005, 12:52 PM
#23
Originally Posted by BlackCat
How many miles have you put on them so far? How much tread is left?
about 45-50k? i think... the rears still have tread, and the fronts are nearly at the wear bars..
07-20-2005, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
about 45-50k? i think... the rears still have tread, and the fronts are nearly at the wear bars..
07-21-2005, 04:58 PM
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I'm running 235/40/18 Toyo Proxes 4's right now for about two months or so. They have phenomenal grip and my experience with past Toyos is that they last like iron. I would recommend them over the Pirellis because I understand the Pirellis have a fairly short lifespan.
07-26-2005, 10:25 AM
#29
Originally Posted by VTonmymind
Did anything about the Toyo's turn you off to them or is the Pirelli simply easier to get where you are?
07-26-2005, 11:16 AM
#30
Are they the M+S or the regular PZero Nero's?
Discount tire once loaned me the regular PZero while waiting for a replacement M+S to arrive and in the 4 months (no kidding, i drive a lot) i've had it, the tread was down to a point that Discount thought i replaced it with a used one. The regular PZ's did seem to have better dry traction though.
My M+S has gone through nearly 20k troublefree miles and it's still working like a charm. Still plenty of tread left too.
they wear out a little to quick imo.. I have them in a 235/40/18.
Discount tire once loaned me the regular PZero while waiting for a replacement M+S to arrive and in the 4 months (no kidding, i drive a lot) i've had it, the tread was down to a point that Discount thought i replaced it with a used one. The regular PZ's did seem to have better dry traction though.
My M+S has gone through nearly 20k troublefree miles and it's still working like a charm. Still plenty of tread left too.
Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
they wear out a little to quick imo.. I have them in a 235/40/18.
07-26-2005, 02:08 PM
#31
Originally Posted by soundmike
Are they the M+S or the regular PZero Nero's?
Discount tire once loaned me the regular PZero while waiting for a replacement M+S to arrive and in the 4 months (no kidding, i drive a lot) i've had it, the tread was down to a point that Discount thought i replaced it with a used one. The regular PZ's did seem to have better dry traction though.
My M+S has gone through nearly 20k troublefree miles and it's still working like a charm. Still plenty of tread left too.
Discount tire once loaned me the regular PZero while waiting for a replacement M+S to arrive and in the 4 months (no kidding, i drive a lot) i've had it, the tread was down to a point that Discount thought i replaced it with a used one. The regular PZ's did seem to have better dry traction though.
My M+S has gone through nearly 20k troublefree miles and it's still working like a charm. Still plenty of tread left too.
i have the pzero nero m+s..
08-03-2005, 08:41 AM
#34
The PZero Neros feel pretty good so far! None of that annoying tire squeal from even a simple turn! Ride is a bit more comfortable over my usual bumps, very quiet and on the hwy the floaty feel is gone.
08-08-2005, 05:22 PM
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If it helps Mr. BlackCat, I recently bought 235-45-17 Proxes 4's from a local America's Tire Co. (Discount Tire Co.) for $105 each. I like them a lot. A tad of tire noise on certain surfaces at certain speeds but they look cool and handle really well wet or dry. I can't say they are better than the Perelli's because I have no way of knowing one way or the other but I thought my input might help you out some.
08-09-2005, 09:42 AM
#38
Originally Posted by ptatohed
If it helps Mr. BlackCat, I recently bought 235-45-17 Proxes 4's from a local America's Tire Co. (Discount Tire Co.) for $105 each. I like them a lot. A tad of tire noise on certain surfaces at certain speeds but they look cool and handle really well wet or dry. I can't say they are better than the Perelli's because I have no way of knowing one way or the other but I thought my input might help you out some.
I don't miss my Falkens at all now. Picked up my first screw on the front passenger side tire already but thank goodness it was a short one!
08-09-2005, 03:17 PM
#40
Originally Posted by 1FSTMAX
one thing with these pirelli's as they wear.. they get louder.. has anyone had this?