I posted this in the tire section, but I thought I would have better luck posting here also. I need new tires bad.

I have a stock 2000 SE with 17s. It's time to buy some tires and I just wanted some opinions for a good all-seaon tire. I haven't had this car too long, so this will be the first set since I've owned it. I live in Kentucky, so, we don't get a great deal of snow here but we do get some(usually couple of inches max). I was looking for an all-season tire with the following:

- comfortable ride
- quiet
- performs and handles good
- good wet traction
- 45,000 mile warranty or better....preferably 50,000+
- under $150/tire

So far, I am considering Yokohama Avid V4s. Are you guys getting 50,000 miles from the Falken 512's? Anyone have experience with Kelly-Springfield's? They have a nice looking touring tire(Navigator Platinum). Would appreciate any info or suggestions.

Thanks

 

Pirelli PZero Nero M&S Got them last year, 8" snow no problem, rain no problem, I believe 55K tread, and cost was $125 ish per tire from Discount.

 

225/50/17 Bridgestone Turanza LS-Vs from the Tirerack.
Probably the best all around tire I have ever owned, very quiet, quieter than the MXV4's I replaced these with. Great dry and wet traction, good handling and appear to be wearing very well. They had a $100 off a set of 4 about 4 months ago and I couldn't pass on that. Read the reviews and check the feedback in all categories performance in the GREEN 9+ I believe.

 

I was interested in this tire until I found out that the mileage warranty is only 40,000 miles. Anyone with these tires get 50,000+?

 

10 char

 

So far, I have been unable to find these in a 225/50/17.

 

Pirellis are not available in our stock size.

Toyo Proxes 4 FTW!! Very good dry and wet traction, predictable at the limit. Drawbacks: fast wear when driven hard & soft sidewall.

 

Then don't get that size.
http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....1=yes&place=68

 

I have Avid V4s. Great in dry and rain. Snow-they are good for an all-season (I haven't tried the super heavy maxima on anything else).

Pretty cheap on tirerack.com. So far they are wearing great ~13k miles. They look really good too-get compliments on them still.

All my other cars have been lighter-my 1987 BMW 325 kicked butt in the snow-stayed planted nicely when I wanted it to, but ripped some sweet doughnuts with a little popping of the clutch.

50/50 weighting on the 325 FTW! Best handling car I've had yet in both the dry and the snow.

 

Falken ZE-512 is another good, comfortable, and cheap all season tire....i heard the only down side is the tread life...its rated at 360 or 380...but most barely get 25k out of them

 

Falken Ziex ZE-512's are great for a 20k tire. Their tread life rating is well... After that they SUCK DONKEY *****. You'll hydroplane like crazy and get very pissed off when your driving 35 MPH on the highway while others are passing you doing 65+.

Can you tell I have experience with these?

 

I don't think 40,000 is unreasonable as most tires that perform this well get closer to 25,000 and are considerably harsher and louder.

One thing I personally like is their non-directional tread pattern. This allows me to rotate side to side and front to back with no issues.

Point Blank, Almost all tires that are up to this level of performance are directional and don't match the qualities this tire has.

 

Continential ContiTouringContact 225/50/17, Treadwear = 360

Great tire, especially for the money. I've had them on about 20K+ miles and they probably have at least that left in them. No noise (yet), performs well (much better than the Craptenzas at least), and great wet traction.

Just looked at Tirerack.com: 60K mile warranty, $128 each. I got mine a little cheaper installed through a tire shop.

 

One more vote for....225/50/17 Bridgestone Turanza LS-Vs.
I love them. I drive them pretty hard and after 10k miles on them, i almost do not see any wear on them. This is way better than any other tire i had on this car in the past.
Get them, you will not regret it.

I had Falkens on my Audi. When they were new, they were fine. They wore out fast and with 50% left, i hated them. I'll never buy again.

 

+1

My Falkens were garbage after about 15k miles. I will never use them again.

 

Has anyone gone through a set of the Turanza LS-Vs or getting close? I need an idea on how many miles these are good for. I know that the warranty is 40,000, but I was curious if you guys are getting more.

 

These warranty rating mean NOTHING! I had tires that came with 80k miles warranty (Yokohama) and they lasted only 35k miles. At the end, they did not give me new tires. The warranty means nothing, unless you have proof on paper that you did regular rotation and balance,... and even if you have that - you still do NOT get a new tire if your "80k mile tire" is gone at 30k. Keep that in mind.

On the other hand, i had tires that came with 45k miles warranty and i got a good 40k miles out of them. I believe that the Turanza LS-V will not be worse than that. They seem to wear slow and even. I like them a lot.

 

Also, tire wear will strictly depend on the type of driver/car you use them with. You may get 45k out of set of tires and same tires may last for only 30k or less miles on my car and my style of driving. There is no such thing as "these tires are good for xxx miles". It all depends on the driver and the car. I hope this helps you in your search for tires. Warranty ratings could be virtually useless when you talk about different cars and drivers.

Instead of the warranty ....pay closer attention to the Treadwear rating/number. (UTQG) The higher this number, the better.

 

I know you posted it in the tires section, but maybe should have looked about halfway down the front page....then you would have seen the very long "DEFINITIVE All-Season Tire Thread"

http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=441191


then check manufacturers websites to see which of those tires are available in the size you're looking for.

Just a thought.

 

I looked through that thread last night. Wasn't satisfied with what I was reading. I need tires bad, so I thought I might get some helpful suggestions.

 

Bridgestone turanza LS-V, check em out on tire rack...best in every category and best all around. $144 per tire aint cheap but they are worth every penny. ive went through may tires and these are absulutly the best all around tire out there!!! grips like falken 512 without the shiity jello feeling! awesome in rain, stiff sidewall and 400 tread rating!

 

you haven't mentioned one key point:

do you want an all-season PERFORMANCE tire, or do you want an all-season drive-like-grandma tire?

If the former, the Toyo Proxes 4 are in your price range and far superior to all others in all-season traction, quietness, and good ride quality. The downside? If you drive hard they're good for 20-25K miles at best. I don't know how long they'd last for a conservative tire. But these can be pushed to a very high limit in terms of cornerinig.

If the latter, go with one of your basic, non-performance tires like the LS-V (don't anyone here try to say that the LS-V is a performance tire-it isn't) or the Michelin Energy series. They will last damn near forever, but will not give you above-average handling qualities.

 

Kumho Ecsta ASX ZR rated 420 TREADWEAR
ALL SEASON I BOUGHT A SET OF 4 FOR $425 (PEP BOYS) 30000MILES WARRANTY
better plus cheap!!!

 

Irish you mention the Toyos being a better choice if you are looking for a more aggressive tire however I don't believe they can provide the better day to day driving experience that the Bridgestones will. As far as comparing these Bridgestones to the Energys, the Michelins can't hold a candle and will squeal at the first 20 mph turn with the wheel turned 45 degrees.

I mean, driving on a nice surface with some good high performance summer tires is a great feeling pulling some lateral G's and everything. But in the real world when some of us drive 100+ miles everyday in sometimes not so familiar territory I prefer a tire that can do a number of things well.

The Turanza LS-V does this by providing good control in all but extreme manuevers keeping the noise in the cabin to a minimum. I keep mine aired to 34psi cool and when they heat up they are right around 38psi and they provide plenty of grip. This tire will allow some 7/10ths driving when the need arises, and when you can't seem to avoid that random pothole, this slightly "grandma" tire will give a little and most likely prevent a nasty bubble.

I guess its all personal preference and depends on what you expect your tires to do for you.

 

i've got the Michelin's MXM4 Pilot and theyre better than the ones i had before which were the stocks Bridgestone Potenza.

 

If performance is the criterion, and the OP lives where the roads ever get wet, then there is no "all-season" tire that can brake as well as a good summer tire. It is inherent in the design of the tread compound. Otherwise, you make an excellent distinction.

The recently introduced Goodyear ResponsEdge is also worth looking into. Its tread is divided into two zones, half "all-season" hydrophilic compound, half "summer" water-shedding compound, so it does not suck quite as badly in wet braking as most "all-season" tires do. (The Michelin Pilot Sport A/S also has a two-zone tread, but it is pricier.)

 

I'm not sure I agree there. The Toyos are an all-season tread, and are not particularly stiff. I drive 50 miles round-trip commute to work over some of the worst roads in the country (Washington DC), and this on 18-inch wheels (235/40/18 tires) to boot...and IMO the Toyos in 18" size actually are a MORE comfortable ride and absorb bumps better than either the Falken 512's (had them on 17's) or the OE RE92's...

The Michelin Energys I had on my Accord coupe...they rode nice, lasted a long time, but were so-so in terms of performance...I agree.

My experience with the LS-V's is pretty limited (my parents' car, which I've driven once or twice when I visit), but I've always "heard" that they were so-so as well when on Maximas (didn't they come OE on early 5th gens with 16s?)

That said, as a general rule a tire with a less-aggressive tread (the LSV) will typically last longer and run quieter, that's true.

That's why I was asking for clarification on his driving style....I don't drive like a madman or anything, but I like to corner hard with no squeal every once in a while...and the Proxes 4 are very good when it's wet out as well.

I've heard good things about that tire as well, but haven't tried it personally. The Pilot A/S is a good tire, but treadlife is not long, and it's way overpriced, IMO.

 

What about Avon? Getting great reviews on Tirerack....

 

Might want to consider Toyo Proxes TPT. They come in 225/50/17 and are fairly comfortable and grip very well in wet and dry. I think I got about 45k miles out of mine (not sure on the warranty on those tires, if any).

I actually am still running the rear TPTs. I just replaced my front tires and went with Kumho ASXs.

 

MetaOrbit, how did you like the TPT's? I was contemplating getting those instead of the michelin pilot sport a/s.

i still think the michelin pilot sport a/s are one of the best all season tires out there. you pay a price for them but you will love how they ride for the time they last.

 

No real complaints on the TPTs. The tread seems to last forever. I only replaced the front pair because at 45k+ miles they seemed to not want to balance correctly anymore. The rears are still fine and still look to have a decent amount of tread.

The wet grip is more than adequate and the dry grip, while not matching that of a summer tire, is still pretty substantial. Beware, however, the sidewalls are pretty soft; this tire isn't the best for handling. But if you want a nice quiet ride with decent grip and great treadlife, I'd say you can't go wrong.

Oh, and P.S., the one time I had to use them in snow they performed admirably.

 

hey is it true that summer tires handle better in the rain than all seasons? cuz i heard the general consensus that all season tire = snow, summer tires = rain

i mean that isn't to say all season tires don't perform well in the rain...i'm just wondering generally, which performs better in what?

 

hey is it true that summer tires handle better in the rain than all seasons? cuz i heard the general consensus that all season tire = snow, summer tires = rain

i mean that isn't to say all season tires don't perform well in the rain...i'm just wondering generally, which performs better in what?

 

From what I understand, the dedicated winter tires dominate in the snow, and dedicated summer tires are great for only spring, summer, and fall. The all-season tire is supposed to be a blend between the two. There are tires that are geared toward wet traction, but as far as one category (winter, all-season, summer, touring) being dominant in wet traction......

 

Def. the new Toyo Proxes 4 bro.... I had to order them because they just came out with the 225/50 17 but lets just say the turn i use to only be able to go 50 at in the crappy potenzas, i was doing 75. A little noisy at first but thats just because the potenzas were too quiet. I'd def. go with the Proxes 4 or TPT for wet, I dunno about snow yet.

 

Go with the Yoko Avid, best tire for the money IMO. They are quiet, perform well dry, and handle great in the snow. I am in NE Ohio and know how scary a Maxima can be in snowy condtions. The Yokos have put my mind at ease.

 

Love my Proxes 4's.

 

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S......pricey but SOLID tire for your money!!

 

Just wait until you have 20k+ miles on them. They become very very loud and heavy rain traction is zero!! I had 2 sets of those tires but i will never ever buy them. Too much money (
$200/ea)...good only when new. Wears fast.
There are way better and cheaper tires out there.

 

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....nce+ComforTred

Go with the 225-55/17.