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Old 10-24-2003, 08:01 AM
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14.404@100.49mph... need help, why are my times so slow??

Hey guys, i just ran my car last night and i came up with these times...

Sorry my digi cam is broken right now...so ill write them out...


Slip one : best time..

R/T: .673
60': 2.312
330': 6.393
1/8: 9.514
mph: 79.74
1000': 12.175
1/4: 14.404 @ 100.49


Slip two : best mph

r/t: .725
60': 2.324
330': 6.399
1/8: 9.544
mph: 79.56
1000: 12.208
1/4: 14.425 @ 101.44

Condition : 70's, tires set at 23psi front, 1/4 tank of gas, 1100psi for the bottle...

My mods are : Budget Y, Homemade intake, dynomax dual exhuast, 75shot NOS wet, Exedy Stage 1 clutch...

I was wondering my are my times off, i was expecting much lower 14s if not a 13.9. Now i know my 60fts are off .2 tenths, but my mph is insanely high, no?

I ran about 7-8 runs between 14.4-14.6 all at 100mph

I also ran my car one run all motor since i ran out of bottle pressure, and i could only come up with a pathetic 15.388 @ 90.03 mph w/ a 2.387 60ft...Doesnt that mph seem too low??!?

The track seemed pretty damn slick, cuz im used to 2.1-2.2 60fts, not these insanely high 2.3-2.4 60fts....

Also, while im at it, can anyone tell the the proper jets for a 75shot too? A shop i got them from told me something like 42nitrous-26fuel for a NOS kit...
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I also ran my car one run all motor since i ran out of bottle pressure, and i could only come up with a pathetic 15.388 @ 90.03 mph w/ a 2.387 60ft...Doesnt that mph seem too low??!?

that mph looks right to me ! your traps with the juice are out of this world !

i agree on the 60' time. when you hook up, your going to destroy 14.4 !

awesome .. i need some juice or a supercharger !

almost forgot: how were you launching, and at what rpms?
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Originally Posted by Ceasars Chariot
I also ran my car one run all motor since i ran out of bottle pressure, and i could only come up with a pathetic 15.388 @ 90.03 mph w/ a 2.387 60ft...Doesnt that mph seem too low??!?

that mph looks right to me ! your traps with the juice are out of this world !

i agree on the 60' time. when you hook up, your going to destroy 14.4 !

awesome .. i need some juice or a supercharger !

almost forgot: how were you launching, and at what rpms?


Yeah, my juicing traps are pretty damn high. I tried SOOO many different launches, almost every run i launched different just because the track felt like it had oil/water on it. I was launching any where from 2000-rpms (very low i know) to 3500-ish rpms, and slipping the clutch, nothing helped. I think i managed my two best with my normal 2800-ish rpm slip clutch launch. I need some slicks dammit!!!


And ceasar, your car with juice....wow, all i can say....get some juice!!!




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90mph traps with your bolt ons (minus the nitrous) is wayyy low. You should be seeing over 90 stock. And at the very LEAST 94mph with intake and y pipe. More typical is about 95. I think something is not right with your car.
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Ceaser, how do you plan on running nitrous with your ECU upgrade?? You don't want it to go boom.
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
90mph traps with your bolt ons (minus the nitrous) is wayyy low. You should be seeing over 90 stock. And at the very LEAST 94mph with intake and y pipe. More typical is about 95. I think something is not right with your car.

Yeah, i know, i have no clue whats up?? Ill run codes again to see if i come up with anything, but ive never trapped in the 94mph range, my fastest with the mods i have was like 92.xx, car seems to choke up top. My friend also has a y-pipe and drop in filter and and will pull me top end, his car is also a 99 SE 5sp....




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14.404@100.49mph... need help, why are my times so slow??

Hey guys, i just ran my car last night and i came up with these times...

Sorry my digi cam is broken right now...so ill write them out...


Slip one : best time..

R/T: .673
60': 2.312
330': 6.393
1/8: 9.514
mph: 79.74
1000': 12.175
1/4: 14.404 @ 100.49


Slip two : best mph

r/t: .725
60': 2.324
330': 6.399
1/8: 9.544
mph: 79.56
1000: 12.208
1/4: 14.425 @ 101.44

Condition : 70's, tires set at 23psi front, 1/4 tank of gas, 1100psi for the bottle...

My mods are : Budget Y, Homemade intake, dynomax dual exhuast, 75shot NOS wet, Exedy Stage 1 clutch...

I was wondering my are my times off, i was expecting much lower 14s if not a 13.9. Now i know my 60fts are off .2 tenths, but my mph is insanely high, no?

I ran about 7-8 runs between 14.4-14.6 all at 100mph

I also ran my car one run all motor since i ran out of bottle pressure, and i could only come up with a pathetic 15.388 @ 90.03 mph w/ a 2.387 60ft...Doesnt that mph seem too low??!?

The track seemed pretty damn slick, cuz im used to 2.1-2.2 60fts, not these insanely high 2.3-2.4 60fts....

Also, while im at it, can anyone tell the the proper jets for a 75shot too? A shop i got them from told me something like 42nitrous-26fuel for a NOS kit...
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
90mph traps with your bolt ons (minus the nitrous) is wayyy low. You should be seeing over 90 stock. And at the very LEAST 94mph with intake and y pipe. More typical is about 95. I think something is not right with your car.
when i see 95.xxx i will prolly pee my pants.
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Old 10-24-2003, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
Hey guys, i just ran my car last night and i came up with these times...

Sorry my digi cam is broken right now...so ill write them out...


Slip one : best time..

R/T: .673
60': 2.312
330': 6.393
1/8: 9.514
mph: 79.74
1000': 12.175
1/4: 14.404 @ 100.49


Slip two : best mph

r/t: .725
60': 2.324
330': 6.399
1/8: 9.544
mph: 79.56
1000: 12.208
1/4: 14.425 @ 101.44

Condition : 70's, tires set at 23psi front, 1/4 tank of gas, 1100psi for the bottle...

My mods are : Budget Y, Homemade intake, dynomax dual exhuast, 75shot NOS wet, Exedy Stage 1 clutch...

I was wondering my are my times off, i was expecting much lower 14s if not a 13.9. Now i know my 60fts are off .2 tenths, but my mph is insanely high, no?

I ran about 7-8 runs between 14.4-14.6 all at 100mph

I also ran my car one run all motor since i ran out of bottle pressure, and i could only come up with a pathetic 15.388 @ 90.03 mph w/ a 2.387 60ft...Doesnt that mph seem too low??!?

The track seemed pretty damn slick, cuz im used to 2.1-2.2 60fts, not these insanely high 2.3-2.4 60fts....

Also, while im at it, can anyone tell the the proper jets for a 75shot too? A shop i got them from told me something like 42nitrous-26fuel for a NOS kit...

Um could be cause your car is slow as mollases running uphill in the middle of winter and the driver sucks. JUST KIDDING, I think that a full second off your time with nitrous is ok to pretty good. Just don't get gready and go to bigger shot until you've had pleanty of time to play with this shot. Give it some more runs you'll bring those times down a bit more.
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Old 10-24-2003, 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by tampamax
Um could be cause your car is slow as mollases running uphill in the middle of winter and the driver sucks. JUST KIDDING, I think that a full second off your time with nitrous is ok to pretty good. Just don't get gready and go to bigger shot until you've had pleanty of time to play with this shot. Give it some more runs you'll bring those times down a bit more.


quiet johnny...

I dont think ill be going to a bigger shot anytime soon..




Im just curious what it should run with that kinda mph. I was looking the 1/4 time slips forum and i found maybe 1-2 maxes who were trapping over 100 and were in the 14s, most were in the 13s trapping over 100...
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99 have sensors from the 2k's Those are very limiting. Check your ECU for ghost Codes, Or you mite have a bad coil or something, When coils start going bad they throw off the KS. Try Spraying right when you get into 3rd. Ionno, what else it could be
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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
quiet johnny...

I dont think ill be going to a bigger shot anytime soon..




Im just curious what it should run with that kinda mph. I was looking the 1/4 time slips forum and i found maybe 1-2 maxes who were trapping over 100 and were in the 14s, most were in the 13s trapping over 100...

I'm not a dragster guru so my opinion probably means nothing. From watching your runs in the past, track and street, i'd say you should look into getting out of the hole a bit smoother and work on the shifts. But if you want something definative
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P.S. I have a device that can pull the codes if you want to give that a try.
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maybe they your bottle was mostly filled with compressed air rather than nitrous....it happens.
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everything seems slow...your traps and mph
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Originally Posted by maximum810
maybe they your bottle was mostly filled with compressed air rather than nitrous....it happens.
very true, but i gained 10mph from my all motor run to bottle-fed run. I ran about a half second slower when my bottle went from 1100psi to 900psi...


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P.S. I have a device that can pull the codes if you want to give that a try.
Yeah, thats cool, can you PM with your number or something cuz i seem to always be the tampa area and we can just meet up sometime...




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Originally Posted by blubyu2k2
everything seems slow...your traps and mph


Then what should i be trapping at?





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Can someone also tell me if thats the right jet sizes...

42 nitrous
26 fuel



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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
Then what should i be trapping at?





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Im assuming you have the usual intake,y,exhaust should be nearly 95 all motor and around 104 with a 75 shot
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Yeah just for a comparison I have a 99 sel, stock clutch...i/y I ran well its my sig but a 15.0 at 94 moph...that was with a really sucky 2.4 60' time. I recently before that run put in new coils (since 99's seem to always go bad and I had a code for it) and just did a regular tune up. Of course are you running one step colder plugs that may be why your a little slower in na form.
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You spraying Wet or DRY?
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Originally Posted by infinitiblast
Yeah just for a comparison I have a 99 sel, stock clutch...i/y I ran well its my sig but a 15.0 at 94 moph...that was with a really sucky 2.4 60' time. I recently before that run put in new coils (since 99's seem to always go bad and I had a code for it) and just did a regular tune up. Of course are you running one step colder plugs that may be why your a little slower in na form.

Yeah, i was also thinking the colder plug might have something to do with it, but 4mph?? I just cant see that...


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You spraying Wet or DRY?
Wet...
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I have got to get to the track with you next time ... all N/A run.
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Originally Posted by Big_Ham
I have got to get to the track with you next time ... all N/A run.

Or how about we strap the bottle to your car

But yeah, we definately need to head back together, once i figure out why my POS is running a pathetic *** 14.4@100mph....



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How did you spray, first gear or from second?
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I ran a 14.4 with a 50 shot spraying in fisrt, dont know how I got any traction but my trap was only 95mph and I ran with a 75 shot and only got a 14.7 but at close to 98mph.
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Originally Posted by SonicDust187
How did you spray, first gear or from second?

On one of my 14.4sec runs i sprayed in first gear at like 4500rpm and just spun, so i shifted to second and continued to spray. Every other run it was 2nd gear on...





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If I even try to spray a 75 shot in first I get wheel hop and clutch gives out. I can only spray from second.
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Originally Posted by 99Maxima5sp
Or how about we strap the bottle to your car

But yeah, we definately need to head back together, once i figure out why my POS is running a pathetic *** 14.4@100mph....

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C'mon dood ... the word "pathetic" is a little strong when you're trapping at 100MPH+
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Back when I had a nitrous kit on my 97 5-speed I ran a 14.0@98mph (2.2 60ft) with a Dry 50-shot, intake, y-pipe, cat-back, and an ACT Clutch.

I then upped to a Dry 100-shot and ran 14.0@104mph with a 2.5 60ft...same E.T....but A LOT more power.

Your 75-shot seems to be making just about the right power

The N/A traps are most definitely due to the colder plugs...as my car was the same way...

Moral of the story....you need sticky tires BAD. Try some slicks or drag radials and those times should come WAY down with a 101.5mph trap.

Take a look at my sig for what my 350Z runs with a 101.5mph trap and you'll see what I mean
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Originally Posted by BriGuyMax
Back when I had a nitrous kit on my 97 5-speed I ran a 14.0@98mph (2.2 60ft) with a Dry 50-shot, intake, y-pipe, cat-back, and an ACT Clutch.

I then upped to a Dry 100-shot and ran 14.0@104mph with a 2.5 60ft...same E.T....but A LOT more power.

Your 75-shot seems to be making just about the right power

The N/A traps are most definitely due to the colder plugs...as my car was the same way...

Moral of the story....you need sticky tires BAD. Try some slicks or drag radials and those times should come WAY down with a 101.5mph trap.

Take a look at my sig for what my 350Z runs with a 101.5mph trap and you'll see what I mean

Now that you mentioned the colder plugs, i can see how that definately hinders my MPH all motor. Its almost like i feel im hitting a brick wall at the upper RPMs. I was trapping upward of 93-ish mph with stock plugs and hitting a 14.9 (consistant 15.0s), and now its running 15.3@90.

As for the slicks idea, im definately going through with that. Me and my friend are probably gonna use the 96 SE steelies and throw some slicks on those, should get both of us into the 13s without a doubt (hes an auto with the same mods as me and a dry 65 ZEX shot). My tires were sticky at one point (Yoko AVS ES100), but they are at the wear bars now so they suck. If i had stickier Yokos i wouldve definately been able to knock off a few tenths...




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If you're still running street tires (not DOT approved slicks, but actual street tires) then DO NOT LOWER YOUR TIRE PRESSURE!!! You get less traction when lowering the pressure. Test it by doing a burnout in an empty parking lot or some secluded pavement. Lower pressure will leave darker edge rubber marks and extremely light center section marks, denoting the fact that the contact patch is not at maximum (maximum is at 32 PSi or whatever stock reccommended is for your brand of tire...)
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