too bad it's made in mexico

 

the newer vw's are assembled in brazil....but yea what do u think an 02 with intake and full exhaust will run?

 

w/a good launch, low 14's are possible for 02 auto i/e/UDP (see my sig and cardomain... i never posted timeslips, got them around here tho need to put online)

Those 1.8T's are a good motor to mod tho, and i've seen some real quick VW's. go find a track (or a big empty parkin lot or something) and race. forget the talk, go do it!

 

hey bigdo what's your 60'? That's a really good time for an auto, considering the simple boltons you got. Stock tires right?

 

I ran my STOCK altima 3.5 5spd against a jetta 1.8T with i/e/chip/diverter valve at the 1/8th mile last month.. beat him both times we raced. His best time was 9.3 my best one was 9.0

It takes alot of money to get 1.8T into the 13s. I'm knocking on that territory and im stock. I used to have a Passat so I know alot of the local VW ppl and hang out with them now and then.. I'll see if I can digup some of the old videos of my brothers 02 Max 6spd vs the 1.8T guys, heh heh.

 

are 5spd altimas any faster than a 6spd 5.5gen cuz of gearing?

 

Bigdo 14.1 on auto wiht those mods is a good time, Inidigo beast just does not know what a maxima can do if you know how to drive it on the track there beasts

 

if it helps when i had my old 92 ve 5spd stock i was even with a stock audi TT 1.8 from a roll.

maxima-3300lbs-~205whp
gti-2900lbs-186whp

3300/205=16.1 weight to hp ratio
2900/186=15.6 weight to hp ratio

he's got the advantage of a standard tranny tho. i think it should be pretty close.

 

finally someone that'll actually listen to claims of power to weight ratios

 

all vw owners talk **** like there car is god, my friend has a jetta 1.8t with turboback exhaust, shortshifter, ecu upgrade, cold air intake and diverter valve, plus like 14 inch rims with sick tires, and i still ate him with just an intake with my 19s on

 

idn he says hes running at 21 PSI if thats the case then hes fast...he says he beet a 6 speed with intake and catback... stock its not fast at all

 

ok here is the thing. The K03 is able to run 21PSI, BUT at that pressure it is just a heat pump, so unless he is running an intercooler, he is just heatsoaking his little side mount. Also 21PSI from a K03 is not the same as 21PSI from a T3/T04. It will not flow the came CFM. Also also, the 1.8T without a turbo MIGHT put out 90-100hp. It is a very weak engine, with low compression unboosted.

 

The 60' time was ~2.15 for that run. Usually i get 2.20x 60' times, with the occasional 2.1xx. And yes, it was on stock Turenza tires, stock wheels.

 

I have a friend who has BMW M3! His car makes 13.5sec/106.2mph!!!
So.... you think that you can race his car also???

 

word on that one. the k03 is a pinnered pos. i fart more psi than that thing. the k04 on the other hand is a diff story...

 

Not by much. I have a K03 sport, which has the K04 compressor housing. It is still a dog. APR sells the K04 kit and the general consensus is that it is a waste of money. It can only deliver about 10-15 more HP than the K03 sport. I just plan on getting the APR 93 flash, TT exhaust, and front mount IC to go along with the couple little mods I already have. Then I can run 20PSI without worrying about heatsoak. I would be more than happy with a low 14 second Jetta.

 

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I dont think its fair to say ALL VW owners talk ****. Maybe a lot of them do, or all the ones you've had encounters with, but not all.

 

you kidding, every vw/audi enthusiast i knew talked the MOST ****. they always clowned on asian cars and made sure their bov's could be heard from a block away. It's actually really annoying lol. my friend right now with a 1.8t quattro thinks his ride is all that but i'll still own him and i'm stock. another person i knew before used to brag about his 2.8 front trac auto lol, that was hilarious. he obviously didn't know the diff between fwd and awd because he took a right turn going like 60mph and totalled it. I don't say anything exaggerated about our cars because our sh!tty traction is a thing to be made fun of

 

the thing i luv the most is how people compare our "luxury" sport sedans to their turbo'd cars. if anything we should be flattered by us being compared. i've raced a 1.8t hooked up. not sure the list of mods but he had aftermarket gauges, good amount of exhasut done and he was stick and he was solo. i had my 19"s on, my cousin who's 240 or so and i kept it in 3rd gear and started putlling on him. if i put it in 4th it would have been lights out. nice cars tho couple of my boys have them. but its really a apples and oranges comparison. throw a turbo on the 3.5 and fuggit about it

 

The 1.8T can't touch the 2.8. The only advantage of the 1.8T is the immediate gains you can see, but overall potential...well, just slap an EIP or HPA turbo on that 2.8 and tell me the 1.8T has more potential.

 

^^ do you have any experience with them?? Have you ever SEEN a 2.8 turbo? find me one and you'll be right, i got out of the dtm stuff a couple years ago but last i heard....there was STILL NOTHING you could for the 2.8. So unless you're an audi enthusiast or some dork that does nothing but hang around the audiworld forums all day long....you're still wrong.

 

okok so PES engineering finally came out with a supercharger kit, big deal. mods for the 2.8 are far and between, and bumping that 2.8 30v to 295 hp is definitely not worth the 5 thousand dollars. do you even have any idea what you could do with an a4 1.8t?? the most power 1.8T is owned by someone in LA, he's pushing 500 horses, of course he has a rebuilt bottom end but the point is, there's a zillion parts for the 1.8T not to mention audi has turbos on other cars (cough k04) that bolt right in..

 

http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/vw_a4_2...o_stage_1.html
Well, here is a link for starters to show you can do up the 2.8...and no it doesn't take hanging out all day at the Audi forums to find it. Am I still wrong?

Here is the stage 2 for $5995 and $1000 for install, there is also a link for a video. I think you could tune this setup to boost further to beat your friend's 500hp 1.8T.
http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/vw_a4_2...o_stage_2.html

More videos and links on the main page, including an incredible turbo kit for the R32 here:
http://www.eiptuning.com/eip/index.html

Obviously there will be many more 1.8T since they came that way from the factory, but how many are out there with 500hp? I would love to see a turbo 2.8, but I may be lucky enough to see an R32 boosted if my cousin ever gets serious about it.

 

hm actually that 2.8 is a 24V jetta, not a 30V audio.

R32 can lick my anus, 3400lb hatch you gotta be joking me

 

that 150 200lbs is negliable

also most german cars, or forced induction cars are UNDER RATED..... unlike nissan usually more on the 17-20% loss

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...406_first_r32/

 

WTF do you have against Rs?

 

HP may be overrated with Nissans but torque certainly is not. When the 02 Altima came out they dynoed it... 240 hp was about right (but it was the same for the max, not 255), but torque was through the roof, 227 ft-lbs at the wheels, which is certainly more than the 246 lbs-tq advertised, in fact it's about 260-265 lbs-tq.

But people don't care about torque, they only care about HP figures, which is sad, since it doesn't show the entire picture, and that's why Honda keeps selling cars with 240 hp and 2 pounds of torque.

 

i think those cars are ugly

 

Ill talk to you next week. I sold my 97 vr6 to my buddy. His kinetics turbo kit for it came in UPS thismorning and is sitting in my garage waiting for the install.
http://www.kineticmotorsport.com
245whp

 

Hehe, R32's.. I ran one from a forum that had Intake/Exhaust, and my buddy also raced us w/ 337 Edition GTi 1.8T with intake/fullexhaust/chip.

The R32 guy posted about it here:
http://www.vdubaddiction.com/forums/...711#post143711

We ran about 5 times, the outcome was always the same:
I won, 337 took 2nd, and R32 was 3rd.

 

..........

 

He actually tried to race with the traction control on???

 

Then we ... ughh.. they should try it from a roll

 

No, he was trying to be funny by postinga bunch of fake excuses. In reality, we raced 4 from a roll and 1 from a stoplight and I won on all of them.

 

hmm. thats too bad. is he a decent driver?

 

He seemed to be okay, but I was more focused on the road then the other 2 people. He did say he may be lookin to get some more mods soon. his EIP cai & exhaust were of very nice quality though and sounded good. I think a chip is in his near future. He is the 3rd R32 i have beaten, though. I'm sure I'll come across one someday that will get their revenge, hehe.

 

So he has the EIP exhaust? How does it sound? I've been wanting to get the street series for mine....just havent. Evidently EIP has been working on "something" to get rid of the rasp and drone.....so this is what im waiting on.

 

I sat in the car while he revved it up and it sounded great to me and isn't all that loud. I did not detect any droning in the cabin, but that could be different when actually driving on the road...

 

the gti is light and they make nice amount of torque unlike a light honda civic. you dont stand a chance. im not sure if i could beat one due to how light the gti is with gobs of torque

 

That R32 driver must suck.
If with his AWD launching ability he couldn't jump
out in front of a couple of FWD cars and hold that
advantage...he stinks.
The R32 is low 14's @ 97-99 mph car.
With a good driver, no stock Altima SE will pull those ET's
But from a roll at higher speeds, I can see.
AWD sucks too much power once speeds increase.