Hey guys this kid at skool wants to race me in his 02 GTI 1.8T coupel bolt ons and a chipped ecu making 186FWHP i got a 2002 maxima SE auto stock what are my chances? we will go the track im wondering what will happen

go to the track and tell us what happens.

i doubt hes at 186whp, my friend has a 2004 gti with a chipped ecu intake and a bov (even though bov doesnt do any thing) well anyhow he put down 216whp on the dyno...personally went with him, so yeah might be tough and i believe they have long 4-5th gears so highway racing will be tough also

is it an automatic 1.8T maybe? but yeah a chip and a couple boltons should be in the 220whp range if its a 5 spd. You will probably have your hands full, but anything can happen.

try to get a good reaction time, might help you out some, what is gti ?

1.8 liter turbo 4 cyl, they can be quick

How much they weight? Also at 220WHP what kind of torque are they making?

There torque is competitve around 5 less then there HP hes a 6 speed i think and he said 186 fwhp idn if he can drive manual then it wont be good if he cant then i might be good Weight around 2500 i guess

Then you're fuuuucked.

Ive raced my friend a few times on the streets and he was nothing to my 4th gen (5spd) I run high 14s and he went to the track once with me and ran a 15.4 stock so Im sure with a chip and what u said he will be keeping up with u pretty close

im sick of these stupid 5v/cyl germans lol jp i just have a couple friends that have 1.8t audis...cant touch the max even with their stage chips

What about the ones that have a 2.8 in them, like the VR6's?

1.8T has way more potential

My money's on the Maxima. My brother's 02 Max 6spd w/ CAI destroyed all the chipped/exhausted 1.8T GTi's from the VW group I used to be in when I owned a Passat VR6 back in the day.

Go whoop that azz

Really? Two of my good friends at school have GTI's. One has a VR6 and the other has a 1.8T. The VR6 is pretty untouchable, the 1.8 cant keep up. But maybe this is just a strange case.

^^ and i'd love to see him try to extract any more power out of that thing. the 1.8T has a zillion parts and options for it. the 2.8 doesn't, that's all i meant. stock the 2.8 is obviously faster but its more of the adult version imo

as for a max beating a gti, as long as his chip isn't some crazy stage III giac or something absurd you should be fine. electronic wastegate is nice though when you want cheap power

Hey guys, i think hes talkin about me....even though i never wanted to race him really, i guess its now "on". But any way, when i dynod at 186whp and 213.3 wtrq at 3346 rpm, i had nothing on the car that increases horse power but a APR chip. Since then i have gotten "a couple" more upgrades but also a lot of things that slow me down like heavy 2 peice rims and some body mods. Im up for a race anytime anyones ready, even if they really are as fast as they claim.

c ya at school...

EDIT: forgot about the wieght...it should be around 2800

your original pics were sick

ya lol, for some odd reason, my host didnt let me post them....ill try to get em on here..

added pics to sig...

Damn fedor how did you get on here , now you can hang with the maxma folks holla

lol, vadim was checking out what you maxima guys are up to and he found this post...

Kill him!! (Razorvi ego!!)

gti is pretty clean. i'm not gonna lie i'm not a fan of your tails but to each his own. maybe thats the flavor where you're at haha. i'm not good with out of state plates either so i can't even tell what yours says...but i'm gonna guess maryland? never been there just a guess. i think you still have some work cut out for you if you wanna beat a 5.5 gen

thx, the tails were custom made to match the cars color sceme, IMO i love em. When taxes get here, i should have some more goodies going on the Indigo beast..lol





btw, that mr2 u raced, is just as fast as my car....

I never raced an MR2, also vadim said my car is a high 15's car not saying he does not know anythng about cars but autos stock run 14.8's and i saw lots of them do it couple weeks ago also with a couple bolt ons mid 14's im there and i dont think vadim will run 13 's in his car..... but i heard you beet arsen the 02 with a ypipe .. how did that go

learn how to use punctuation marks lol

02 Stock auto is about 14.7 ish.. Not high 15's, maybe if you took off the rear wheels and drug it down the strip.

ighettoboyi, he' 16, give him time those English skills will sharpen up ...

yea i raced Arsen in his 02 max 6 speed with exhaust and intake and i took him by about a car from light to light...if we were to go any further it would of been more. BTW vadims car will run low to mid 13's and my car runs mid to high 13's

theres a guy above that has his time in his sig "15.5" thats not 15???? maximas stock are 15 second cars...and slicks dont count

Stock 3.5L autos run 14.7 14.4 6spd, typically .. STOCK meaning no slicks ..
The car he 99 SE-L ( from his profile, not his screen name) is equipped with a different engine than the one that states he ran a 15.5 in his sig

You guys wager your 1st born or something? Just get to the track and race.

Too far away

.. I'm too lazy. I have no 1st borns though ... maybe my 4g could be considered that.

cmon indigo, cant you see its a diff car, with about a thousand more dollars the max can keep up with you fine....give it a snailshell like you and it'd be OUTS

Our cars weren't meant for speed. But oh well ...
Screw the snailshell, drop the 3.5L in there. . .

i was talkin about the 5.5 gen already. a lil over a thousand dollars and good tuning and those things can fly. the 4th gens are fast cuz theyre relatively light

you do realize that the golfs are family cars...at least my insurence thinks so...

my friend vadim personaly knows a guy with an mr2 with all the mods he has but an additional 3" downpipe...that guy runs high 12's... mean while were on the snail conv. given about 2.5k the gti can easily run very very low 13's to high 12's. It would take quite a few dollars for the max to get into the 12's with full interior and street tires...dont want to start another argument, its never going to end, everyone has there own opinion so just forget i said anything....sorry

Well put it this way stock 2002 autos run 14.7's 14.8's at the track,Couple bolt on's 14.5's,03 6 speed with intake ypipe headers ran a 13.50 last month his board name is JAY_PEE.. any org member will say that these numbers are true.

You do know there is a maxima in MD run 11.2 on slicks spraying 35 shot

were we talking about golfs or gti's...i think we were talking about gti...anyhow who cares theyre turbod making them that much easier to start upgrading, either way, throw a blower on the 5.5gen and...yea....

My 4th gen (less power than a 2000) did a 14.8 bone stock on cheap street tires. Now that being said I now drive a MK4 Jetta 1.8T, and I will say that with an APR 93 flash, N75J, and TT exhaust, (all for about $1K) you will have a 14.0-14.3 car. A lightly modded 2K max don't want none of that.

On a side note, i do miss the first gear in my Max. First gear on the MK4's is real tall, hard to get a good 60'.