So would a high stall TC coupled with Stage 2 or 3 VB upgrade put an automatic on par with a 5spd?

 

You mean, would it start getting the same 1/4 mile times as a stock 5spd? NO

The 5spd is still going to lay down more power due to the efficiency of the transmission. But, when you shorten your gearing, put slicks on your car, raise your stall and get a VB mod, you can shave about 5-8 tenths in the 1/4 mile. That will get you closer to what a 5spd can do. It's a good idea to get smaller tires on an automatic just for the track b/c of our long gearing.

Oh yeah, the VB mod won't shave any time off your 1/4 mile. It's possible you might shave a tenth if you are laying a lot of power down to begin with. But for an all motor maxima, you won't see any noticable gain in the 1/4 mile. I might have seen a half tenth, but it's too close to tell for sure.

 

thanks for your help

this just be may be exactly what Ive been looking for...

which one do you recommend?

street or mild?

how much would they run?

currently 190 whp...190 lbs/ft

(guesstimating )

 

Thanks; looks like a 5spd conversion is still in my future. Now to find a donor I30t or AE 5th gen.

 

Mild Street Edge TH350 $ 224.50
Mild Street Edge TH400 $ 224.50
Mild Street Edge PowerGlide $ 224.50
Mild Street Edge C4 $ 254.50
Mild Street Edge C6 $ 254.50
Mild Street Edge 727 $ 259.50
Mild Street Edge 904 $ 259.50


As you know...I know nothing about TCs....help me choose which one would be best for me

thanks

 

Everyone you just listed is for another car. Pick up the phone and call them. Talk to Andre if you are actually serious about buying this. He will chose the right one for you. You don't have to think. Just tell him that you have a street car and you want to make it faster for the track. He will raise your stall from 1800 to around 2500-2800 and will put a smile on your face. AWESOME service and AWESOME product! He once returned my call from his cell while he was on vacation IN ALASKA! When he got back a couple days later, he built the converter and shipped it out to me!

 

What's the pricing on the unit you're talking about, Aaron?

 

I think I got mine for $380 shipped. I forget, I will have to search the org b/c I know I've posted it before.

 

Found it, it was $396 shipped.

 

so raising the stall can cause that big of a difference? Thats intense, because im gunning for sleeper96s 14.2 as an auto. 00VI will be what I do next, then ECU perhaps, or new tc after reading about this.

 

I am also going after 96sleepers 14.2. Going to the track on Friday, I know it won't be low 14's but I need to find out what it can do in the 1/4...

 

have you run at the track before? im trying to get 14s with just i/y/e, or 15 flat at least. with a 2.2xx 60', i should be right around there.

 

Good luck! I'm going to easily be deep in the 13s by this winter NA. Then I will start the turbo installation.

 

why? auto's are slow.

 

No they aren't.

 

I think he's kidding...isn't C MAX a boosted auto?

 

I knew he was kidding, but I didn't know if he was an auto or 5spd. C Max, any 1/4 mile times? What's your best?

 

he is an auto look at his profile he has a stillen v2 and vb mod.

 

haha thats usually what i hear all the time so i figured i'd see how it feels. im auto with the whole works s/c and nitrous. my best official run was 12.9 @ 111mph with 11lb pulley and 50 shot. i had the five speed s/c but sold it for the auto. got tired of going threw throw out bearings and clips.

 

I been to the 1/4 mile track once before. I ran a 15.9 w/ just intake and a 2.4 60.

I been to the local 1/8 mile tracks alot and I ran at 9.8 at 74mph.
I have ypipe, CAI, 00vi, and something special that might be unleashed soon
I am hoping for mid to high 14's

 

Whats the unleashing deal you got there? Or is it S/RD?

 

I can't say a word about it until I get all the bugs worked out and some track times.

BTW I ran a 10.4 in the 1/8 with that 15.9. And as of last month, best 1/8 time is 9.8

 

WOW. ... That's a *big* imporvement, hope to see updates.

 

Nice trap speed! No slicks? No spraying out of the hole?

When you originally said that autos are slow, I was thinking about unleashing my wrath. But I didn't want to start a flame war. With as much power as you're pushing, a 5spd would be a downgrade! That's why I am going to build my auto and go turbo and then nitrous. I'm a 1/4 mile *****!

 

Got that last part right j/k

 

i sprayed right after i cleared second gear and i was using nitto extreme drag radials which helped tremendously. i remember we had back to back maxima winners on dragtime .com i was car of the month right after you. you know i love my stick but im working with a auto now so i gotta represent .

 

thats cool kevlo. heres my timeslip from my best 1/4 mile run
R/T .085
60' 2.315
330 6.456
1/8 9.843
MPH 72.65
1000 12.771
1/4 15.261
MPH 91.64

i got a 15.2 with a 9.8 1/8 mile time. You are about 1.45 mph faster at that point though. You should have no problems being in the 14s with that 00vi. Im going to the track again on may 17th. I will be praying for a 14.999 if i can get a good 60' time. I'll even be happy with a 15.1 or a 15.0 which is not bad at all for an auto with i/y/e.

 

I can't find your time in www.dragtimes.com. What was your 60'? If I know that, I will know exactly what you're capable of doing in the 1/4 mile with spraying out of the hole with slicks. I know your 60' will be atleast 1.80! For every tenth you shave in the 60 foot due to traction alone, you shave 2 tenths in the 1/4 mile! But if you spray out of the hole, your time will drop much more than just 2 tenths for every tenth in the 60 foot.

 

i went from a 2.4 to a 2.2 with the drags. my launch was still terrible i think do to hitting the nitrous too early. i ran around 14 seconds flat with my 18's and 3,600lbs. i have the dragtime page on my site. im trying to read the slip for the 12.9 but its so faded i can barely read it anymore but it looks like a 2.1 weighting in at 3200 pounds before my custom stereo install.
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/493989

 

Slicks + nitrous on launch = 1.75 60' and 12.1s =

 

i think i get too excited when im out there because i just cant nail a good 60'.
the reason my final time is good is because i pick up a lot of speed at the end luckily.

 

If you heat up the DRs and have a good suspension and minimize the weight transfer, you can do 2.00s. It's not easy to get below 2.0 on DRs, but it's possible. GET SLICKS! You need them SO bad! Follow Jime's example... spray right out of the hole. You'll be fine. Enjoy having low 12s and a 1.7 60'.

 

i know, it took me forever just to get the DRs but the difference was night and day. i went from consistent 13.5 to 12.9- 13.1 with DRs. i know what impact slicks would do but i was always afraid of getting stuck by breaking my axles at the track. i have a heavy duty axle but they just gave me a lifetime warranty but id still be stuck if it broke. i guess once you become turbo 12's would be easier for you with all the practice you had

 

Yeah. I wouldn't worry about axles at all unless you are experiencing terrible wheel hop. And wheel hop doesn't really exist in an automatic if you have it properly setup. I've never had any kind of wheel hop before.

Jime hasn't broken a single axle yet. If you have a stock tranny, then I'd be worried about pushing all that power. I'm going to beef up my tranny before I do anything over 250fwhp.

But your tranny is the weak link, not your axles. Jim has shown that.

 

Even MardiGras running 11.56 at 121 mph and a 1.71 60' foot couldn't break an axle...

 

Axles break in civics not Maximas

 

Cool. *dumps the clutch at 7k*

 

Hrm 7k dump...Did you wheelie??

~Alex

 

You're kidding, right? We're FWD.

 

Thats whe whole point! :P

~Alex