I understand the whole long day thing, its aight

but whats to say im putting in Nitrous? 75 shot mixed with the turbo set up is going to require alot more integration of the add on electrical components and additions to the cooling system as well, Not so sure I want to do nitrous with the turbo set up at this point in time, but we'll see.... I have to know what this set up will do @ 10psi before i go adding nitrous.

 

Yeah, you're right - I was getting way off-topic here, beating the nitrous drum and waving the nitrous flag. Which you probably should not use with a turbo - and with a 10psi setup, won't need nitrous either.

Apologies to the OP....

 

hey doc jeve's has nitrous with his turbo, but he did not use the juice when he ran the 13.0

 

If I ever reach my goal to be turbo'd, I plan on spraying a 35 shot all the way down the track to get that insane 60' I'll need for a spectacular time. My turbo dream is still far far away.

 

I want to go with a 3.5 swap but there is just too many little problems and my car is a dd, so it's spray for now with plans to add a turbo in the future

but 1st I have to get pass you n/a guys.

 

My car is a daily driver too.

I wanted to get my car as fast as I could NA while keeping in mind my goal of FI'd in the future.

 

Why not try a nitrous shot or two - or 50 ? Beg, borrow or steal a kit and "give it a shot". Once you spray, you won't go away. Heh.

 

I know! That's why I don't want to go nitrous right now. lol I know if I do nitrous before turbo, then I won't ever go turbocharged. I'd probably be doing low low 12s with a 75 shot of nitrous. Man, don't even get me thinking about this possibility!

 

great time ceasar , i cant wait till you get a low 13 or even bust the 12's


now for this nitrous talk ,you can talk times but if you look at the timeslip forum look at the top 10 times and tell me if one pure nitrous car is in the top 10

 

Jime was there before he went to the 3.5swap and grey will be there soon as the weather breaks and would already be there if he removed his amp and subs

 

Congrats Ceasar. That car is really moving.....it always has though

I could I wish my G was that fast. I'd be happy with a 13.9, but I don't have the money nor do I want to put up with all the noise/vibration that comes with getting 1st gen g35s into the 13s. My next car will easily break into the 13s though.

 

Not yet.....

I'm riding the "nitrous" horse for a little longer. It lets me concentrate on headers and automatic trans mods and chassis tweaks using the hp that nitrous makes. Now that I've leaned how to survive heavy shots, the engine makes consistent repeatable power, and lets me focus on other things. Besides, it's fun to watch others' reactions when I bring it up.

I race with the entire car every time, including spare tire and jack. My $500 junkyard stock engine dynoed at 150 hp when NA, and I use the stock ECU. Someday I'll focus on that with tuning, but for now, it's still spray all the way, baby!

 

Jime went 12.1s in two of his nitrous cars...

 

A little bit OT but funny how things feel slower the faster you go. A year or two ago, running a 12.9x or 13 flat in the Max seemed fast given where it was (mid/high 14's), but now that I'm there it's pretty darn slow and I'm wishing it was already running 11's.

Still, I don't think you'll ever see nitrous on my car. It's cheating...

J/K Harry (sort of.. lol). No seriously I don't have anything against anyone who uses it, but it doesn't appeal to me that much. I'd rather have a car with power available always that I don't have to keep filling a bottle.

 

Getting on soap box:

Yeah, but.... I'd rather have a compete Maxima with ALL accessories working, and a spare tire and jack at ALL times. I can jump in this car and drive coast-to-coast with no problems (well, the 3" Warpspeed exhaust rumble does tend to interfere with the Clarion/Alpine surround stereo w/Fosgate subs) and still get 27 mpg - with air conditioning running. I took this car to Maxus 2005 and 2006, and it was an easy ride. I noticed that there weren't a lot of high-performance Maximas there. Less in 2006...

At the track, I always have a street-legal car at tech inspection. Of course, I have to turn off the A/C before staging. Sometimes I crank up ZZTop for a low-13s pass, just because.

I admire what folks have done with turbos and superchargers - and N/A, like you - but most aren't complete cars, are they? Lots of stuff removed, sound-deadening gone, no power steering - all in the name of going quicker. That's OK for them - that's how we learn. But, that's not for me.....

I don't street race, and I don't care how fast I am when going to the grocery store. When I want to go fast, I go home, put the car on the trailer, bolt in a hot bottle and go to the track.

And therein lies the difference between me and most of the cars in the top 20 or so of the timing slip database.

Getting off soap box....

 

I disagree. Most maximas of all flavors (NA, FI, and Nitrous) are complete cars. The stripped out lightweight ones are very few and far between. Ceaser, krismax, and a couple others are the only stripped out super lightweight cars that I know of.

 

Well - that's good to know so many Maximas are complete. Since I'll never see them, it's hard to tell from any list.

 

ill have a video of my next upcomming race ill make sure to pan my interior for all.

 

I wasn't really picking on you, just so you know.. lol just saying something in general with a little teasing thrown in on the side. Hope we can all have fun around here, certainly don't take me too seriously, I don't! lol

I don't street race either *cough* 99% of the time *cough* but my Max is not my DD now so I can pull a couple things off for the races but in 20 min - 1/2 hr I can have the car looking completely normal inside and out (well if you don't count slicks etc lol). When I race most of my interior trim is still in, same with the carpet, trunk liners etc. My A/C is still on the car and as for the PS, I actually prefer having it off now as the road feel is more solid. If I ever change my mind I can switch back without much trouble.

But hey each to his own. If nitrous floats your boat then great I'm happy for you. It just doesn't float mine, that's all. I think no matter which way we got there, for the most part we're both happy about the times our cars are running.

 

I guess my response was a little "prickly", wasn't it? Sorry. I'm serious about respecting whatever others have done with their cars. Full factory stock to gutted racers - it's all good. When racing, the only thing that matters is who gets to the finish line first - no one measures how complete the car is. This way, we all get to benefit from others' experience with their mods.

My point was that I'm deliberately not lightening my car in any way. This is really worse-case for racing. The nitrous path is one I chose so I don't spend all my spare time (not much) figuring out tuning, but in making the other parts work well together, including automatic tranny mods and the new OBX headers.

Once I get all parts working together as well as I think I can, I will be able to slide a 3.5L motor in there without having to change the rest of the car. That's my long-term goal, but for now I'm still making progress with the junkyard dog 3.0 that's in there now. But it's hard trying to keep up with these crafty Canadians.

No offense intended -
.

 

lol.

No worries none taken.

 

Very nice! Im coming over from a land of 4cyl. that are lucky to hit low 14's N/A with a barrage of parts and 13's are even more elusive.

I am amazed that the 4th gens will hit 13's N/A with what I consider, a very low ammount of parts. The 00vi intake mani seems to be the way to go, and Id like to learn more about it, any direction I can be pointed?

Also the greedys your using, is that a full standalone w/ ign. timing or like the e-manage just fuel?

 

both emanage blue and emanage ultimate control fuel and timing. they are both piggybacks.

check the all motor forum for details on them and the 00vi. check it and search.

 

If one would forgo the typical exhaust mods completely and ONLY do 00VI+E-manage Ultimate, and slicks, and leave the rest of the car stock, the times would be impressive...

 

And a y-pipe...

 

Headers > *

 

Sarcastic or serious?

Also cesar, if Im reading your cardoamin site right, you ran a 13.8 w/o the 00vi and emanage??

 

Ceasar keep it coming man I dont know how you do it.

 

WTF? What kind of question is that

Im just saying the europeen version of the max came with 217 hp and the VI as early as late 1993. If the 4th gen max came with all the emissions, EGR, precat crap, BUT had the VI and a really fine tuned ECU, it would HAUL in stock form.

 

WTF? What kind of question is that

Im just saying... the europeen version of the max came with 217 hp and the VI as early as late 1993. If the 4th gen max came with all the North America emissions, EGR, precat crap, BUT had the VI and a really fine tuned ECU w\ 7000-7200 rev cut, it would HAUL in stock form.

 

i can see everyones point. sometimes i get pm's on im doing 14.4 with same mods how are you doing 13.x? The only way to do 13.x with my hp is weight reduction, lol !

I also think some maxima owners would puke if they looked inside the chariot during drag season, while others would say, hey thats JDM, get rid of the lazy boy and get a race seat. Just taste aye ?

For the most part, 6 months out of the year, my car sits in a garage completely stripped out and ready to race. Not because im some badass drag racer, but just because is something i enjoy doing.

When drag racing season is over, I put all the interior back in the Max, drive over to (what we call) Warrant of Fitness and have the car inspected. I drive around a little, but mainly just let the car sit these days. Then when drag season starts back I strip it out again. its a viscious cycle.

i was just thinking about my times yesterday, and how much better the 00VI is and EU.

With my old USIM/Technosquare ECU a day or racing would look something like this:
14.1,14.2,14.0, 13.9, 14.1

i ended up running a best of 13.86 with USIM and stock ecu but only 1 run out of heaps of runs.

So on the same track i run (3) straight 13.6's before we get rained out. Given a few more runs I think I can run a best of 13.5, just looking for that one special run.i also think i need a 3rd gear dyno to see where i should be shifting. at present im going to 7200 in 1st and 2nd, 3rd a bit more tricky.

a group over here is trying to set up a nissan drag meet, so should be going up for that soon , pretty good track will report in , in a month or so.

 

Being a good drag racer helps too...

 

I get that all the time. Most people have just automatically reached the conclusion that I'm a factory freak. Far from it! I ran 16.7 when I was stock. After all my tinkering, I have seen my times drop by a tenth at a time over the years since I bought the car in 2001. Some people contact me and ask how I am doing 13.7s when they are only running 15s with the same mods. On every occasion, they don't have the same mods as I do and the ability to put down every ounce of HP to the GROUND... where it counts.

It's not how much power you're making on the dyno, it's whether you are able to use ALL your power and lay it to the track surface efficiently that counts.

You've always been in the same boat as me. You don't drive a factory freak. You just know how to efficiently use the power you currently have. Plus, knowing how to drive is the main thing!

 

at present final times in on best et's with each setup, a bit off with that 2.1x 60 foot should hit 13.5 sooner or later.

 

When's the Hamilton meet Chris?

PS sorry I haven't got pics sent over yet... I gotta hop to it!

 

season is kinda over, we have some winter drag meets, and going to have a nissan meet i think in july up there. so might be a while before i hit the strip again, did manage to put the interior back in the chariot for the 1000 time, lol.