Hey guys i want to put slicks on my stock 15" steelies OR my buddie's 15" sawblades. I searched the forum and found only really old threads about slick recomendations, so i'm wondering if any "new" information is available. From what i gathered, i need the 8.0/26/15 size. Correct? I'm not sure how tall of a slick i should get as well, i see a bunch of 22/22.5 size. I don't want to dump my clutch at 5k+, so would that mean i should go with a shorter tire? Also, is JEGS.com still the best source for slicks? I just want to hear what you experienced guys have to say, i'll be going down to the 1/4th in 2-3 weeks.



mods in sig, i also don't have a/c.

 

26 is the overall height of the tire. thats at least equal to if not taller than your tire (5th gen stock is about 26) i would go smaller if you could. try looking in the 7-7.5 width range cause those will have smaller sizes usually and will actually fit on the wheels youre stating

 

I think jimes uses a 23.5 inch tire and grey99max had a ebay to some cheap used slicks

 

I had 23x8.5x15 slicks with a 3.5 swap and I wished I had gone with 24.5s. Considering you have an NA 3.0 I would opt for the 23x7.5x15 size. The gearing will be much better than 26, you wont have to launch it at 5000+, and they WILL FIT on a stock 15x6.5 sawblade or honeycomb, or even 3rd gen wheels. They will also be easier on your drivetrain than 26s.

BTW only M&H makes the 23x7.5 size. MT does not. Both are great slicks though, but M&H are less known and cheaper.

 

Actually I've used the 255/50/16 BFG DR on ASA 16x7.5" (hunting tires for the street), the 225/50/15 BFG DR on Mazda Millenia 15x6.5,, and my favorite, the M&H 23/8.5/15 ripple-wall slick - these on 15x10" rims. Those may be replaced with a Hoosier 23.5/12/15 sticky tire mounted on 15x12 Cragars - we'll see this year.

Short tires are good - they give you a much lower first gear for launch - if you have the power. If you spin a lot on launch, you need better tires. There are new tires out this year from other manufacturers. Shop for short and wide.

Both Jegs and Summit have good catalogs showing the critical dimensions of racing tires, including rim widths. Only one has M&H - I think Jegs... Both vendors have good on-line catalogs. Take a look - tread width, circumference, required rim width, light rims are all important.

 

IMO M&H are better than MT... ask Jim which ones he likes better now after switching, and local guys I talk to favor M&H also. Plus I can't argue with what they've done for me at the track.

 

http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/store...10002_82832_-1


Thanks for the replies, so this is what i should go with then. I'm thinking i'll go once on street tires with my mid-weight 17s next sunday or saturday and get a feel for the track, and run slicks on sawblades two weeks from then when i go again. 13's here i come!(i hope)

 

I've used both M&H and MT and I like M&H better hands down.

The first thing you need to do before buying slicks is get to the track and find out what you are trapping at. You do not want to go buying a size that joe shmoe on the internet told you to buy only to find out it forces to you shift 50 feet before the finish line...

Once you know where you're trapping and also what your near future plans are (do you plan on doing anything like raising the limiter or adding significantly more power soon), then you should report back to us.

I purposely went with an oversized 26" slick when I was NA because I did not want to shift to 4th. With 7200rpm to play with and a 26" slick, I was finishing in 3rd gear at about 6900rpm and that seemed to work ok for me...

edit: good lord don't buy that 23" slick before you go to the track... I sure as hell wouldn't put a 23" slick 5spd car.

btw call M&H directly, I paid like $12 less per tire for a bigger slick. I think those are overpriced unless M&H has upped their pricing.

 

Cool thanks, i linked to that size because of Jclaw's gearing suggestion, but i guess that's not what i should be doing?

I'll go to the track this sunday or next saturday and see what happens. Then i'll report back, as you said. As a matter of fact, i'll even get the runs on video so you get to SEE my horrible launches in action!

No raised limiter, and i won't be doing any power mods for a while, i'm going to wait until i can comfortably afford boost, which may take a year or two.

 

You definitely don't want less than a 24.5" slick on a 5-spd. I use 24.5 but I trap 104+ and can rev a lot higher than stock, which means I don't have to shift to 4th. With stock rev limit though that slick size will result in a shift to 4th just before the finish line. A 26" inch slick will keep you in 3rd most likely.

But as Neal said, I'd be doing some calculating/ Car Test simulating to determine what the best slick size is likely to be for your mods/trap speed etc.

 

I was not talking down M&H at all. MT = more consistant M&H = stickier, mushier sidewall. Thats the general concencus. For having gone 1.75 too on these I cant fault them, but they were too small for my car, my setup needed 24.5s for consistancy.

 

I didn't take it to mean that you were talking down on M&H.. I was just adding an opinion is all.

FWIW, I'd say M&H are just as consistent though (well all I have is 24.5" of course), but before my engine seized last year I was consistently hitting 60 fts within 0.01-0.015 variation. That's pretty consistent for a FWD car, put the same slicks on a RWD car and things probably only get better.

I'd say if people have a hard time with inconsistent 60 fts it's primarily not the slicks. Look at other things first, like tire pressure, suspension setup, launch style, track prep etc. Just my $0.02...

 

General consensus according to whom? I've never heard that...

 

Hey guys, this is probably a stupid question, but i need somebody to tell me if i can race tomorrow night, or if tomorrow night is just to watch cars go at it. Here's a link, and i'm looking to go Saturday, May 26th.

http://www.edgewaterrace.com/index.p...tpage&Itemid=1


It says "May 26th 1/4 mile ET Summit Race Series plus

High School Race -- Summitt ET RACE

Plus BIG TROPHY NIGHT"

Also, will they let me run with a CEL? Also, 492 ft above sea level is pretty good, right?

 

Sure they will let you run with a cel, do a big burnout out there and show them what a VQ can do !

 

Stalled auto guys running 9s and 10s around here...

 

That's interesting info, I've never heard a preference one way or the other from anyone.

For what it's worth, on the day that I ran 13.43 - my 60' times were between 1.889 to 1.933 on 5 runs. So you don't need a 2 step to be consistent - what you really need is just a consistent method of doing things. For me it was 5500rpm and let it go, every time. The only run that was out of wack was one run where I got rushed to the line and didn't do a proper burnout and dry hop.

Most every time I went to the track, once I had the tire pressure where I wanted it, my 60' times were within a .03-.05s window.

 

Couldn't run tonight, went all the way down there just for them to tell me i'm too late and it's spectator only now. Test and Tune is friday nights, and i freakin work every friday night....i guess i'll go enter some contest next saturday then, at least get one or two runs in.

 

try another track?

That's pretty retarded, they just made less money off you than they could've, and pissed you off. lol way to go track personnel, that's thinkin' it through.

 

Yeah i don't understand that either, but that's ok, i'm going up there next saturday with another maxima owner.

I don't know of any other tracks around here unfortunately, this one is only like 35 minutes away from my house too.