It's official - N/A 3L cracks 12's
oh i see, yeah it definitely has more in it. i didn't want to say it before you confirmed, but that shift sounded pretty brutal, I bet you're giving up almost a tenth right there. i know when I shift 1-2, you cant even tell that I've shifted except for the wheelspin and change in engine tone, I suspect yours are the same way normally.
Last edited by DandyMax; Sep 30, 2007 at 11:36 PM.
Check your video player settings maybe, it's definitely in widescreen now, you might just have your player settings forcing 4:3 or something?
Edit: copied from another post... maybe this sheds some light?
Edit: copied from another post... maybe this sheds some light?
Originally Posted by MorpheusZero
this video is definitely 4:3.
it's kind of like anamorphic letterbox--it's a widescreen frame, but with black bars on either side of the letterbox video.
it's kind of like anamorphic letterbox--it's a widescreen frame, but with black bars on either side of the letterbox video.
Originally Posted by DandyMax
Sorry I guess you're right, I'm not being specific enough. The overall video is 4:3 yes but the portion showing the actual race, that's letterboxed because it was originally shot in true 16x9 widescreen, so as long as you're seeing the letterboxing top and bottom and the car in the correct proportion, not looking tall and squished then the video is correct. In the first video the car was out of proportion...
Last edited by DandyMax; Oct 1, 2007 at 12:04 AM.
What are you doing up at 4am? lol. Better question is what am I doing up...
Last edited by DandyMax; Oct 1, 2007 at 01:14 AM.
Took it to 8000 a couple times but it was breaking up and lacking power up past ~7100 or so due to the tuning issues. The rev-up pump should live up there (I think/hope), z350lover's built Z in AUS had one and he ran it to 9600 IIRC with Ferrea valvetrain. My backup is the oil pressure cut off switch though, if the pump goes hopefully it'll save the engine, unlike the last one that seized up the bearings.
What are you doing up at 4am? lol. Better question is what am I doing up...
What are you doing up at 4am? lol. Better question is what am I doing up...

Congrats.

But yeah, even if he only went to 8200-8400 it's not lower than I plan to go. My modeling suggests valve float could start to happen >8200 with the S1's so that was kind of my self-imposed limit at this point. The DEK buckets/shims are still a little heavier than the 3.5 even though I've lost over 7 grams per spring assembly (IIRC) going to the HR springs and retainers.
Tuned up properly it will make enough power up there to make it worth revving to that point though..
I love the top end on my car now, I fully expect it to trap 109+ once I get all the issues/tuning sorted out. (And no, it's not a dog through the low/mid range either.. haha)
Last edited by DandyMax; Oct 1, 2007 at 10:18 AM.
Maybe if you put the same amount of money into the 3.5 it can be really fast... but will it be a rev engine like this? With that setup can you slap on a turbo, tune the car and get a high revving 3.0 with 100 shot spray?? Wouldn't that make it fast has hell since he has all of the big mods like cams valve spring and all of that? Plus i have seen a lot lighter maxima's then that so i am pretty sure anybody who attempts this can break the records...
Didn't someone do 11.7 turbo on 93? what about this setup turbo nitrous with race gas? Am i talking crazy here? Just bored with ideas....
Didn't someone do 11.7 turbo on 93? what about this setup turbo nitrous with race gas? Am i talking crazy here? Just bored with ideas....
Maybe if you put the same amount of money into the 3.5 it can be really fast... but will it be a rev engine like this? With that setup can you slap on a turbo, tune the car and get a high revving 3.0 with 100 shot spray?? Wouldn't that make it fast has hell since he has all of the big mods like cams valve spring and all of that? Plus i have seen a lot lighter maxima's then that so i am pretty sure anybody who attempts this can break the records...
Didn't someone do 11.7 turbo on 93? what about this setup turbo nitrous with race gas? Am i talking crazy here? Just bored with ideas....
Didn't someone do 11.7 turbo on 93? what about this setup turbo nitrous with race gas? Am i talking crazy here? Just bored with ideas....
Good job Dan, I always had faith in that 3.0L. I've done 3.5L swaps, tranny swaps for people.... but it never impressed me enough to ditch the DE-K for a 3.5L.
Oh BTW I still need to send ya my EU for em resistors to be soldered in, I need to finally put the EU in the car. Boost is waiting
Oh BTW I still need to send ya my EU for em resistors to be soldered in, I need to finally put the EU in the car. Boost is waiting
Thanks to all who've posted with congrats, much appreciated.
jr schultz: you, kind sir, are right; I'm only starting to get serious now...
It's up on both StreetFire and YouTube now, just look for my user name (DandyMax). The StreetFire one is bigger/better quality though...
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jr schultz: you, kind sir, are right; I'm only starting to get serious now...

Originally Posted by NismoMaxman2
Is this on youtube??? Gots to place it on myspace page... hahaha
Congrats
Congrats
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Last edited by DandyMax; Oct 1, 2007 at 11:56 PM.
dan i havent been on the org much, but what a treat ! congrats on all the hardwork and the amazing 12 second pass !! i know after having the car sitting around for almost a year must have been tough, but this was worth the wait aye. VQ30DE-
K power A32 maxima runs 12.8 all motor !
hats off to the VQ 3 Liter King !
K power A32 maxima runs 12.8 all motor !
hats off to the VQ 3 Liter King !
Last edited by Ceasars Chariot; Oct 2, 2007 at 11:49 AM.
dan i havent been on the org much, but what a treat ! congrats on all the hardwork and the amazing 12 second pass !! i know after having the car sitting around for almost a year must have been tough, but this was worth the wait aye. VQ30DE power A32 maxima runs 12.8 all motor !
hats off to the VQ 3 Liter King !
hats off to the VQ 3 Liter King !
CORRECTION: It's a VQ30DE-K
Ridiculous timeslip. 8200 on stock rods!?
I'm beginning to think VQ30DE and VQ30DET rods are the same or very close! I just pulled out a stock VQ30 crankshaft yesterday and the thing looks INDESTRUCTIBLE. It must weight 25 pounds. We kept the crank, rods and retainers from a junker 3.0.
The 3.5 is NOT the way to go. The reason is piston speeds;
http://www.csgnetwork.com/pistonspeedcalc.html
At 7500 RPM the 3.5 reaches the critical speed of 4000 feet per minute. This is pretty much the limit on stock 35 rods. Piston speeds is what dictates how much stress the bottom end is put through.
What makes the VQ30 such an incredible motor is the extremely oversquare design. It has a super small 73.3 mm stroke VS 81.4 mm for the 3.5. What this means is that at 7500 the VQ30 is only doing 3600 feet per minute, so it strains as much at 7500 as the VQ35 at 6750.
In order to reach 4000 feet per minute, the 73.3 mm crank has to reach a mind boggling 8325 RPMs! That's why Dandy can get away with 8200 on stock rods. And to think Nissan imposes a 6550 rev limiter on that bottom end.
The best NA setup for a maxima is not the 3.5, it is the 3.2! Buy a junkyard VQ35 for 600, a junkyard VQ30 for 300, VQ35HR pistons for 300, ARP rod bolts, cams and valve springs and you have an 8000 RPM monster that still displaces only 3160 cc or so. But it would have the better VQ35 heads and the lighter VQ35HR pistons. Plus oil squirters and the fact that the 3.5 is 35 pounds lighter.
Are you gonna try the 3.2 next Dandy? I know this one has mid 12's@110 in it. Maybe a custom intake manifold or a modified 00VI next?
Theorically we could rev a 3.5 up to 8000 with eagle rods but then if you put eagle rods in a 3.0 you could go up to 9000 RPM, which is absolutely insane. Like an S2000, but 3 liters.
The most insane setup would be a Darton sleeved 3.8 liter VQ35 block. Instead of giving you 38xx cc with the 81.4 mm crank, it would give you about 3466 cc with the 73.3 mm crank. So you would have a 3.5L revving to 9000 continuously. It would probably make something crazy like 110 HP per liter with the right supporting mods.
In order to run what Dandy runs now, he's probably doing 100 HP/liter right now! Put that in your pipe and some it, Honda boys.
Last edited by JClaw; Oct 3, 2007 at 10:06 AM.
It IS 20% nitrous! We run faster!
Ridiculous timeslip. 8200 on stock rods!?
I'm beginning to think VQ30DE and VQ30DET rods are the same or very close!
I just pulled out a stock VQ30 crankshaft yesterday and the thing looks INDESTRUCTIBLE. It must weight 25 pounds. We kept the crank, rods and retainers from a junker 3.0.
The 3.5 is NOT the way to go. The reason is piston speeds;
http://www.csgnetwork.com/pistonspeedcalc.html
At 7500 RPM the 3.5 reaches the critical speed of 4000 feet per minute. This is pretty much the limit on stock 35 rods. Piston speeds is what dictates how much stress the bottom end is put through.
What makes the VQ30 such an incredible motor is the extremely oversquare design. It has a super small 73.3 mm stroke VS 81.4 mm for the 3.5. What this means is that at 7500 the VQ30 is only doing 3600 feet per minute, so it strains as much at 7500 as the VQ35 at 6750.
In order to reach 4000 feet per minute, the 73.3 mm crank has to reach a mind boggling 8325 RPMs! That's why Dandy can get away with 8200 on stock rods. And to think Nissan imposes a 6550 rev limiter on that bottom end.
The best NA setup for a maxima is not the 3.5, it is the 3.2! Buy a junkyard VQ35 for 600, a junkyard VQ30 for 300, VQ35HR pistons for 300, ARP rod bolts, cams and valve springs and you have an 8000 RPM monster that still displaces only 3160 cc or so. But it would have the better VQ35 heads and the lighter VQ35HR pistons. Plus oil squirters and the fact that the 3.5 is 35 pounds lighter.
Are you gonna try the 3.2 next Dandy? I know this one has mid 12's@110 in it. Maybe a custom intake manifold or a modified 00VI next?
Theorically we could rev a 3.5 up to 8000 with eagle rods but then if you put eagle rods in a 3.0 you could go up to 9000 RPM, which is absolutely insane. Like an S2000, but 3 liters.
The most insane setup would be a Darton sleeved 3.8 liter VQ35 block. Instead of giving you 38xx cc with the 81.4 mm crank, it would give you about 3466 cc with the 73.3 mm crank. So you would have a 3.5L revving to 9000 continuously. It would probably make something crazy like 110 HP per liter with the right supporting mods.
In order to run what Dandy runs now, he's probably doing 100 HP/liter right now! Put that in your pipe and some it, Honda boys.
Ridiculous timeslip. 8200 on stock rods!?
I'm beginning to think VQ30DE and VQ30DET rods are the same or very close! I just pulled out a stock VQ30 crankshaft yesterday and the thing looks INDESTRUCTIBLE. It must weight 25 pounds. We kept the crank, rods and retainers from a junker 3.0.
The 3.5 is NOT the way to go. The reason is piston speeds;
http://www.csgnetwork.com/pistonspeedcalc.html
At 7500 RPM the 3.5 reaches the critical speed of 4000 feet per minute. This is pretty much the limit on stock 35 rods. Piston speeds is what dictates how much stress the bottom end is put through.
What makes the VQ30 such an incredible motor is the extremely oversquare design. It has a super small 73.3 mm stroke VS 81.4 mm for the 3.5. What this means is that at 7500 the VQ30 is only doing 3600 feet per minute, so it strains as much at 7500 as the VQ35 at 6750.
In order to reach 4000 feet per minute, the 73.3 mm crank has to reach a mind boggling 8325 RPMs! That's why Dandy can get away with 8200 on stock rods. And to think Nissan imposes a 6550 rev limiter on that bottom end.
The best NA setup for a maxima is not the 3.5, it is the 3.2! Buy a junkyard VQ35 for 600, a junkyard VQ30 for 300, VQ35HR pistons for 300, ARP rod bolts, cams and valve springs and you have an 8000 RPM monster that still displaces only 3160 cc or so. But it would have the better VQ35 heads and the lighter VQ35HR pistons. Plus oil squirters and the fact that the 3.5 is 35 pounds lighter.
Are you gonna try the 3.2 next Dandy? I know this one has mid 12's@110 in it. Maybe a custom intake manifold or a modified 00VI next?
Theorically we could rev a 3.5 up to 8000 with eagle rods but then if you put eagle rods in a 3.0 you could go up to 9000 RPM, which is absolutely insane. Like an S2000, but 3 liters.
The most insane setup would be a Darton sleeved 3.8 liter VQ35 block. Instead of giving you 38xx cc with the 81.4 mm crank, it would give you about 3466 cc with the 73.3 mm crank. So you would have a 3.5L revving to 9000 continuously. It would probably make something crazy like 110 HP per liter with the right supporting mods.
In order to run what Dandy runs now, he's probably doing 100 HP/liter right now! Put that in your pipe and some it, Honda boys.




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5 more tenths and your their!
