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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 05:29 PM
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seriously? so theres something so fundamentally different about 2000-2003 maximas that they are different than every other car out there? even other maximas that are EXTREMELY similar to them?
not every car run 15" slicks buddy.... again, your gonna stick to your gunz and thats cool... wish you the best of luck
Old Aug 4, 2010 | 05:33 PM
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also, youre never going to get a direct comparison. when I get my tires for these wheels, it will be comparing a 50lb crappy nitto DR combo with a 35lb hoosier cheater slick combo...
Old Aug 4, 2010 | 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Grand_hustle17
not every car run 15" slicks buddy.... again, your gonna stick to your gunz and thats cool... wish you the best of luck
the list of cars that dont run 15's or smaller is the same list of cars that cant fit 15's or smaller. seriously, go look at what muscle cars are running, 350zs, supras, civics, etc. In fact, go to the track and check what all the fastest cars are running, so long as they can fit the smaller wheel they are running it

Simple youtube video demonstrating the concept
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO2CRb8FHLA

maybe if those cylinders were mounted on a 2000-2003 maxima the concept would change, but I doubt it

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wish you the best
Old Aug 4, 2010 | 08:22 PM
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if you could find that technical discussion proving why 16s are better that would be very helpful here
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 05:29 AM
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anyone who thinks that running 16s for drag racing is better than running 15s when 15s are possible is flat out wrong. physics don't cease to exist at the front hubs of a 5.5g maxima as opposed to a 4th gen maxima.

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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 10:08 AM
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anyone who thinks that running 16s for drag racing is better than running 15s when 15s are possible is flat out wrong.
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Old Aug 5, 2010 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
anyone who thinks that running 16s for drag racing is better than running 15s when 15s are possible is flat out wrong. physics don't cease to exist at the front hubs of a 5.5g maxima as opposed to a 4th gen maxima.

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Yup. I usually just do whats proven to work and theres a reason all the fastest guys are running 15's. Guess whats going to be on my car once its done.
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 03:55 PM
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again, im not trying to start a dumb discussion.. and all the fastest being... the fastest N/A 5.5 is using 16's... i wonder if his times would improve if he got 15's hmmm.... again goodluck fella's
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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the fastest NA 5.5 gen has absolutely nothing to do with this discussion, as we have no word that he has tried a legitimate set of 15s ands good, correctly sized tires. if he had run those times on 18s would that mean 18s are the best???
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 04:42 PM
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again.... yall win, im done... no need to continue...... what else do yall want me to say, im dumb???? im dumb and i just said the dumbest thing (there i said it, lets leave that alone...) nice find on the wheels
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 07:04 PM
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really what we want you to say is what youve heard, the reasoning behind it
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 07:12 PM
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i will most likely word it wrong as i cant get into the "rotational mass due to blah blah blah" im not that type of person... i dont like to use rediculous technical terms im just moreso about results... i dont care about the long details behind it.... what i would like to see is sparks running 16's or jaypee run 15's for a month and get the avg times from that as they supposedly have the faster 5.5's to date, thats never gonna happen so **** it... i myself would switch to 15's if i saw the benefit... no point shaving brakes and all the shannanigans when i dont see the results, i mean this is breaking news that i dont have do any modifications to the brakes and may damn well try em myself... i just dont care that much for real... whatever i or anybody else says is BS to me... run it and prove it, the proof is in the pudding, **** the long theory talk
Old Aug 5, 2010 | 09:32 PM
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I wamna run as is...I what to know what a real car does not a stripped down version of one.... nor will 15" or 16" fit over my upgraded brakes, so my light weight 18" are on 24/7 and that's how it'll be tested...
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just because someone runs the great times with one setup doesn't mean their times couldn't be better with another setup.

I ran quicker in my stock 95 than i ever did in my 96 when it had ypipe and intake. does that mean that a stock car is faster and that people should not do bolt ons?

i see what you are saying about theory vs results, but the plain and simple fact is that you cannot get around the physics of the matter than it takes less power to accelerate a mass that is closer to the center (i.e. a 15" wheel and tire rather than a 16" wheel and tire). if we could go back in time to the run that jaypee99 ran his PB and magically swap 15s on to the car (same diameter, same weight, same 60', etc) it is a mathematical certainty that he would have run even quicker because it physically takes less power to accelerate a wheel with a lower moment of inertia which means he would have been accelerating quicker, less of that acceleration being wasted on turning a higher MoI wheel/tire combo. whether or not you like to back up opinion with fact is a non-issue really. no one is saying you can't run great times without the absolute optimal setup, but just that you'd run even better times with a more optimal setup.
Old Aug 6, 2010 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Nealoc187
just because someone runs the great times with one setup doesn't mean their times couldn't be better with another setup.

I ran quicker in my stock 95 than i ever did in my 96 when it had ypipe and intake. does that mean that a stock car is faster and that people should not do bolt ons?

i see what you are saying about theory vs results, but the plain and simple fact is that you cannot get around the physics of the matter than it takes less power to accelerate a mass that is closer to the center (i.e. a 15" wheel and tire rather than a 16" wheel and tire). if we could go back in time to the run that jaypee99 ran his PB and magically swap 15s on to the car (same diameter, same weight, same 60', etc) it is a mathematical certainty that he would have run even quicker because it physically takes less power to accelerate a wheel with a lower moment of inertia which means he would have been accelerating quicker, less of that acceleration being wasted on turning a higher MoI wheel/tire combo. whether or not you like to back up opinion with fact is a non-issue really. no one is saying you can't run great times without the absolute optimal setup, but just that you'd run even better times with a more optimal setup.
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Old Aug 7, 2010 | 12:19 PM
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back to what the topic was started for. i dropped to 17x8's and went to and 18lb rim from a 24-25lb rim. i had a difference of .3 seconds on my 1/8 mile. and my 60ft times went down by .1 of a second.
Old Sep 3, 2010 | 11:30 PM
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I am pretty sur if you would have gone to 16 wheels, you would have got improvement 05-08s in 1/8 mile. I am running on 16x7 Rota Slipstream that weight only 11lbs and it is improvemnet over stock 15x6,5 a 5,5lbs( stock wheels weight 16,5lbs). You should also get yourself for slicks or grippy semi slick tyres or good performance tyres that do not weight too much, like Hankook RS3 or RS2.
Good luck.
Old Sep 4, 2010 | 03:59 AM
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^^^ good info
Old Sep 4, 2010 | 09:27 AM
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Originally Posted by KK1
I am pretty sur if you would have gone to 16 wheels, you would have got improvement 05-08s in 1/8 mile. I am running on 16x7 Rota Slipstream that weight only 11lbs and it is improvemnet over stock 15x6,5 a 5,5lbs( stock wheels weight 16,5lbs).
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