forum is dead...someone build me an intake
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Good news! I got two midpipes done! Both aren't perfect. So it's a toss up to which is better. And to my knowledge, the pipe sizes should fit. The little hose fitting that was too small on Sarin's was replaced by a brass barb style fitting on both of these.
I'll taper the pipe ends to make the hoses slip on easier. If anything, they are just a tad big
For the rest of the 3" pipe. It's all marked. Just has to be cut. One of the pipes will either be too long or okay. I'm not 100% sure on that dimension so best to leave it long vs short. It might work either way as it's the pipe that the filter is attached to(in the fender) This will only take 1/2 hour to cut.
As of right now, they aren't painted.
86wagon. If Spilk188 doesn't want the midpipe, I can probably grab another set of 3" pipe and duplicate the cuts for another complete setup.
Or I can just make another complete unit.
Now I would have liked to have Sarin's car to confirm all the little fitting sizes but again, I've done the best I could do considering I couldn't braze and use copper tubing. The steel fittings are close (very close in the OD measurements.)
I'll taper the pipe ends to make the hoses slip on easier. If anything, they are just a tad big
For the rest of the 3" pipe. It's all marked. Just has to be cut. One of the pipes will either be too long or okay. I'm not 100% sure on that dimension so best to leave it long vs short. It might work either way as it's the pipe that the filter is attached to(in the fender) This will only take 1/2 hour to cut.
As of right now, they aren't painted.
86wagon. If Spilk188 doesn't want the midpipe, I can probably grab another set of 3" pipe and duplicate the cuts for another complete setup.
Or I can just make another complete unit.
Now I would have liked to have Sarin's car to confirm all the little fitting sizes but again, I've done the best I could do considering I couldn't braze and use copper tubing. The steel fittings are close (very close in the OD measurements.)
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sarin,
if you got a chance to take a close up picture of your mid pipe installed so I can see where all of the vacuum hoses come from and go to.....that wouls be great if you got a chance...it would also help so I will know what else I need to take out that I currently have installed with just the MAF adaptor and the cone filter....I am guessing the rest of the intake assembly comes out.
if you got a chance to take a close up picture of your mid pipe installed so I can see where all of the vacuum hoses come from and go to.....that wouls be great if you got a chance...it would also help so I will know what else I need to take out that I currently have installed with just the MAF adaptor and the cone filter....I am guessing the rest of the intake assembly comes out.
I'll try to work up a price. Do you guys need the couplings/hose clamps also?
I'm gonna buy some primer and silver paint and do these up tonight (with luck)
Sarin has pics in a zip file on the 2nd page.
I'm gonna buy some primer and silver paint and do these up tonight (with luck)
Sarin has pics in a zip file on the 2nd page.
Pics are up!
http://community.webshots.com/album/144639551kVYvLw
Yes the welds are ooglie! heh. I took pics of the bare pipes and painted pipes. I sanded everything down and used some gloss black engine paint I had. It works well and is very tough paint. I used it to paint my bbk caliper relocating brackets.
Last pic shows the big 3" coupling tubing.
I'll try to pin down a price tomorrow.
http://community.webshots.com/album/144639551kVYvLw
Yes the welds are ooglie! heh. I took pics of the bare pipes and painted pipes. I sanded everything down and used some gloss black engine paint I had. It works well and is very tough paint. I used it to paint my bbk caliper relocating brackets.
Last pic shows the big 3" coupling tubing.
I'll try to pin down a price tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Yup. But you would be amazed how expensive it is. I got mine from Napa. Good quality. Seems alot more sturdy than just plain auto radiator hose. This stuff is for semis or something.
I graduate today so this weekend might be a go on the redesign. What was the correct size of your small fitting and do you got any other inputs for improvements?? Jeff, the very first picture of the complete CAI, I see the piece that goes through the fender that has the bend. How or where did you get that piece?You said earlier that you didnt know how to braze but if you have access to an oxy/acetylene torch I could explain it to you. its really not that bad...You could also use silver solder but its more of a pain in the ***. The brass flows better.
It's a brass barbed fitting. I'd have to look at the package. I don't even know if it's gonna work. Sarin just said the fitting needed to be bigger than the one you used(the smaller one). So I bought a size a bit bigger than that.
Just for the brass fitting, I used some stuff called liquid steel. It's used to fix leaky steel pipes etc... it can be painted, sanded, drilled, tap and died etc.. Should be plenty strong.
Just for the brass fitting, I used some stuff called liquid steel. It's used to fix leaky steel pipes etc... it can be painted, sanded, drilled, tap and died etc.. Should be plenty strong.
There seems to be some concern about this setup:
1) Materials. Most of it is 16ga aluminized mandrel bent steel. The exact same stuff most turbo charge pipes are made of. Exact same stuff 99% of all intake pipe is made of. It's plenty strong. What is the alternative? Aluminum? Will get just as hot and is harder to work with. Ever see mandrel bent aluminum pipe? PVC?? Will get soft when hot. And since this was NOT designed for automotive applications, there is no telling what chemicals are leached out when it gets hot(ie.. the plastic itself or the chemicals used to bond it together) It's also much thicker. Meaning you have to cut that much of a bigger hole in your fenderwell.
2) Like I said, the welds are ooglie
. But it's strong and will work. That's what counts.
If you have concerns, comment it about it here. But at least I took the time to make one for a guy here. A guy not influenced by hearsay and false opinions. Just a guy that wanted one made. I commend that.
1) Materials. Most of it is 16ga aluminized mandrel bent steel. The exact same stuff most turbo charge pipes are made of. Exact same stuff 99% of all intake pipe is made of. It's plenty strong. What is the alternative? Aluminum? Will get just as hot and is harder to work with. Ever see mandrel bent aluminum pipe? PVC?? Will get soft when hot. And since this was NOT designed for automotive applications, there is no telling what chemicals are leached out when it gets hot(ie.. the plastic itself or the chemicals used to bond it together) It's also much thicker. Meaning you have to cut that much of a bigger hole in your fenderwell.
2) Like I said, the welds are ooglie
. But it's strong and will work. That's what counts. If you have concerns, comment it about it here. But at least I took the time to make one for a guy here. A guy not influenced by hearsay and false opinions. Just a guy that wanted one made. I commend that.
Another thing....I shouldn't have to do this, but I will. If you guys want, I can personally test the kit before it ships. If you get it and don't like it, you can go after me. I'll put my reputation on the line for this. I would hope that if you guys don't trust Jeff, that you at least trust me. I can guarantee this work and you shouldn't have anything to worry about as far as quality is concern.
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It's a mandrel bent pipe. Usually used for free flowing exhaust sytems. Fully aluminized.
Originally Posted by maximumrideus
Sarin
I graduate today so this weekend might be a go on the redesign. What was the correct size of your small fitting and do you got any other inputs for improvements?? Jeff, the very first picture of the complete CAI, I see the piece that goes through the fender that has the bend. How or where did you get that piece?You said earlier that you didnt know how to braze but if you have access to an oxy/acetylene torch I could explain it to you. its really not that bad...You could also use silver solder but its more of a pain in the ***. The brass flows better.
I graduate today so this weekend might be a go on the redesign. What was the correct size of your small fitting and do you got any other inputs for improvements?? Jeff, the very first picture of the complete CAI, I see the piece that goes through the fender that has the bend. How or where did you get that piece?You said earlier that you didnt know how to braze but if you have access to an oxy/acetylene torch I could explain it to you. its really not that bad...You could also use silver solder but its more of a pain in the ***. The brass flows better.
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Originally Posted by maximase86
Another thing....I shouldn't have to do this, but I will. If you guys want, I can personally test the kit before it ships. If you get it and don't like it, you can go after me. I'll put my reputation on the line for this. I would hope that if you guys don't trust Jeff, that you at least trust me. I can guarantee this work and you shouldn't have anything to worry about as far as quality is concern.
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make good... no worries here what-so-ever.
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Yo
You guys remeber what Sarin said about fighting on the internet?
Just because some people want to hate on you don't think we all feel that way! I think it's pretty dope that you would even have the testicular fortitude to try this.
You guys just think were we'd be if people only listened to they ney sayers!
I say hell yeah, keep it up your not going to be alone soon I'll trying to make stuff so lead the way brotha.
Besides too many people drink HATORADE!
You guys remeber what Sarin said about fighting on the internet?
Just because some people want to hate on you don't think we all feel that way! I think it's pretty dope that you would even have the testicular fortitude to try this.
You guys just think were we'd be if people only listened to they ney sayers!
I say hell yeah, keep it up your not going to be alone soon I'll trying to make stuff so lead the way brotha.
Besides too many people drink HATORADE!
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Originally Posted by Drjmaxx88
Yo
You guys remeber what Sarin said about fighting on the internet?
Just because some people want to hate on you don't think we all feel that way! I think it's pretty dope that you would even have the testicular fortitude to try this.
You guys just think were we'd be if people only listened to they ney sayers!
I say hell yeah, keep it up your not going to be alone soon I'll trying to make stuff so lead the way brotha.
Besides too many people drink HATORADE!
You guys remeber what Sarin said about fighting on the internet?
Just because some people want to hate on you don't think we all feel that way! I think it's pretty dope that you would even have the testicular fortitude to try this.
You guys just think were we'd be if people only listened to they ney sayers!
I say hell yeah, keep it up your not going to be alone soon I'll trying to make stuff so lead the way brotha.
Besides too many people drink HATORADE!
Where was the fighting???
Seemed peaceful to me...
Scott
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Originally Posted by 86Wagon
Ummm... I must have missed something here...
Where was the fighting???
Seemed peaceful to me...
Scott
Where was the fighting???
Seemed peaceful to me...
Scott
What I did for the piece going through the fender was, I bought a 90 degree exhaust elbow and just brased it to a straight piece of pipe. It came out good. After its in the fender, I used this PVC accordion type pipe from auto zone, that was meant for intakes. I ran that the rest of the way and put the cone filter on it. I'm thinkin of changing it to pipe though. I commend you to for doing what I've been doing. If you want to get the stuff done for your ride sometimes you have to take that iniative. After seeing what most of these intakes kits looked like, i figured I could do that. If you give me your email address I can send you pictures of my intake. Jose
I just saw an opportunity to make a CAI for one of the guys here. I had some of the parts already. It was fun. I hope it fits well.
Originally Posted by maximumrideus
Jeff
What I did for the piece going through the fender was, I bought a 90 degree exhaust elbow and just brased it to a straight piece of pipe. It came out good. After its in the fender, I used this PVC accordion type pipe from auto zone, that was meant for intakes. I ran that the rest of the way and put the cone filter on it. I'm thinkin of changing it to pipe though. I commend you to for doing what I've been doing. If you want to get the stuff done for your ride sometimes you have to take that iniative. After seeing what most of these intakes kits looked like, i figured I could do that. If you give me your email address I can send you pictures of my intake. Jose
What I did for the piece going through the fender was, I bought a 90 degree exhaust elbow and just brased it to a straight piece of pipe. It came out good. After its in the fender, I used this PVC accordion type pipe from auto zone, that was meant for intakes. I ran that the rest of the way and put the cone filter on it. I'm thinkin of changing it to pipe though. I commend you to for doing what I've been doing. If you want to get the stuff done for your ride sometimes you have to take that iniative. After seeing what most of these intakes kits looked like, i figured I could do that. If you give me your email address I can send you pictures of my intake. Jose
Good deal 
....what do you guys recomed to use to open up the hole going into the fenderwell? Saw-zaw? Drill with hole bit? Could use some suggestions. Thanks.
Carson
....what do you guys recomed to use to open up the hole going into the fenderwell? Saw-zaw? Drill with hole bit? Could use some suggestions. Thanks.Carson
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
I shipped it today via usps priority. Expect it Monday or Tuesday.
I use a dremel with cutting discs. I suggest that when you cut the hole, make it bigger than you need. It will allow you a little more flexibility when installing the piping, and allow the piping to move with the motor a little. Just becareful of the wiring harness that's there. Also there is ground there...which you'll see, be sure to relocate that.
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Originally Posted by cardana24
Good deal ....what do you guys recomed to use to open up the hole going into the fenderwell? Saw-zaw? Drill with hole bit? Could use some suggestions. Thanks.
Carson
....what do you guys recomed to use to open up the hole going into the fenderwell? Saw-zaw? Drill with hole bit? Could use some suggestions. Thanks.Carson
door edge guard trim around the hole for that "finished" look.
Just a thought...
Scott
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Your CAI has been delivered Cardana24. That was fast. heh
I am at work right now but I will swing by the house before I go to my second job to check it out. Thanks for everything so far. Do you know what K&N filter I will need to make this work....I have an injen filter on my fourth gen, I have a pancake, and I have the ebay one on my second gen right now....I will probably throw the ebay one in the trash, and just get a new K&N. Do you know the part number for the correct filter that will fit in the wheel well?
http://community.webshots.com/album/145789293SyrMnu
I just made my own custom CAI yesterday also.
This type might work. This one is a Cattman K&N CAI filter. See how it's more of a can vs cone? The cone styles are generally too wide.
Sarin used a 4gen Supercharger filters that comes with those kits. It's really thin. Ie barely wider than the 3" opening.
I just made my own custom CAI yesterday also.
This type might work. This one is a Cattman K&N CAI filter. See how it's more of a can vs cone? The cone styles are generally too wide.
Sarin used a 4gen Supercharger filters that comes with those kits. It's really thin. Ie barely wider than the 3" opening.
The one that comes with the fourth gen S/C kit are actually the pancake style filter....Sarin has the one that some guys use for the custom CAI setups. I was thinking I wanted one like sarin just because I am sure it would fit...I will look around for one...if anyone knows the part number then please post away
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
http://community.webshots.com/album/145789293SyrMnu
I just made my own custom CAI yesterday also.
This type might work. This one is a Cattman K&N CAI filter. See how it's more of a can vs cone? The cone styles are generally too wide.
Sarin used a 4gen Supercharger filters that comes with those kits. It's really thin. Ie barely wider than the 3" opening.
I just made my own custom CAI yesterday also.
This type might work. This one is a Cattman K&N CAI filter. See how it's more of a can vs cone? The cone styles are generally too wide.
Sarin used a 4gen Supercharger filters that comes with those kits. It's really thin. Ie barely wider than the 3" opening.
Yeah, mine isn't the same one that comes with the s/c kits. I use one of the ones that most S/C guys use for thier CAI's. I'll try to get a shot of it, and see if there is a part number on it.
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everything looks good so far jeff....I will try to get this in by the end of this weekend....I still really need a part number or some sort of link for a filter...I really would not care but if I order the wrong filter that about a $50 mistake when going thru K&N
will this size work?
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting
yeah I think its close but I think I need a bigger opening...if I am reading this right then the I.D.(inside diameter) is not big enough....
Originally Posted by maximase86
As long as it can fit a 3" pipe, that should work fine. That looks almost like what I have...very very close.
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