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Old 12-19-2000, 06:01 AM
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All these kids at my school have S-10 SS's and plain S-10s and they always beat me in a race, those damn trucks are so fast, it's not cool. have ANY of you beat one?
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I've dusted s-10's

But then again I have ran into really modded S-10's/Sonoma's that kicked my ***. My advice get an intake, Y pipe, UDP and JWT ECU. If that isn't enough buy a torque convertor from protorque at http://www.protorque.com and get a shift kit or VB mod.
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Here's a trick

One thing you have to remember with S-10's is that they are going to be geared for pulling stuff. That means a lot of them (Even the S-10 Blazer I once Owned) come with 3.73 rear axles. This will help them on takeoff but you should be able to get them in the "Sweet Spot" (midrange) because an S10 (unless it's been modified) is not going to win a top speed contest (and will lack sufficient midrange punch) with a Maxima.
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Old 12-19-2000, 06:20 AM
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Yes, they usually whoop my @$$ at the start, and I don't catch up until about 75, other than that they are usually ahead of me
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Old 12-19-2000, 06:24 AM
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And what exactly does a torque converter do? I went to protorque, but couldn't find one for the max.
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Old 12-19-2000, 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by HockeyPimpRHS
And what exactly does a torque converter do? I went to protorque, but couldn't find one for the max.
They do sell one here is the email I recieved from them:

Thank you very much four inquiring into our company. We are currently working
on a new catalog for 00.' We expect that they will be ready in the next 6-8
weeks. In the meantime if there is anything that you need please feel free to
call me at 631.218.8700. You will find out however that most of the
information is already up on our web site

Yes, we do torque converters for this application. We just finished building
a torque converter for a twin turbo 300ZX that is running in the 10's . This
car has been featured in TURBO Magazine. The torque converter that I
recommend for this application is our PTCDA11SS. This torque converter is the
perfect mix of performance and streetability and is recommended for a
street/strip application. The stall speed on this torque converter is approx.
300-800 above stock. Our price on this torque converter is $395.00 +shipping.
The reason we recommend this piece is because of it's good drivability, and
durability.
thank you
Joe Rivera
PROTORQUE
1440 Church St.
Bohemia, NY
631.218.8700

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Old 12-19-2000, 07:36 AM
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yea those s10's are pretty fast. huge losers always drive them too. usually with big bow ties in the back window.
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Old 12-19-2000, 07:40 AM
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i dunno about you guys but i usually beat S-10's. theres a couple really modded ones that can blow me away but i beat most of them. a kid from school has this really ugly S-10 SS and its butt ugly and super slow. its an auto and has these gross american racing rims on it.
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Originally posted by James92SE
i dunno about you guys but i usually beat S-10's. theres a couple really modded ones that can blow me away but i beat most of them. a kid from school has this really ugly S-10 SS and its butt ugly and super slow. its an auto and has these gross american racing rims on it.
if the s-10 that you are racing has a 4.3 in it, you will probably get beat. but, if the s-10 has a 2.8 in it, you will probably win. let's not even mention what happens if the s-10 is a 4 banger!!!

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Old 12-19-2000, 08:49 AM
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First of all, do you have a 5spd or an auto? That can make a big difference in whether they beat you or not. I can dust any S-10 where I live (even the couple SS ones I've run into) but they probably weren't heavily modded. I have a 5spd and usually I get a launch and they're in the rearview...
 
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i have an auto and so does he. you guys do know that the 4.3 liter vortech v6 only has about 170 hp right? they're not that fast! they have trouble breaking into the 15's. i think they run like a low 17 stock. chevy could have gotten so much more out of it. but they do respond really really well to mods. he always takes me off the line for a second or two but i fetch him and blow him away. and on the highway its no contest!
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Old 12-19-2000, 10:22 AM
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Re: I've dusted s-10's

im a little confused as to what exactly the ProTorque torque converter actually does. i know that the torque converter acts as a coupling from the motor to the transmission, but how is ProTorque any better than what is in the car already? They never really said what makes it better on their website, so i thought maybe one of you would know?
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But then again I have ran into really modded S-10's/Sonoma's that kicked my ***. My advice get an intake, Y pipe, UDP and JWT ECU. If that isn't enough buy a torque convertor from protorque at http://www.protorque.com and get a shift kit or VB mod.
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Old 12-19-2000, 10:41 AM
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I believe they 'lock up' sooner(stop slipping) so you get more power to the wheels(someone correct me if im wrong)

Those s-10s arnt bad, i raced one 1/8th mile with my old taurus SHO 5-speed and he got me off the line and halfway thru my first gear..but when the SHO hit 4k and the secondary intake runners opened up it was all over
 
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Just don't race a.....

<b>2000 F-150 Lightning!!!!</b>(I know its a totally different truck) the most embarrasing roadkill I've ever suffered!!(this is before I knew it was one of the fastest production vehicles), whew, 0-60 in a blink!!! S-10's are pretty cool and they've got a couple of nice looking aftermaket performance and styling optoins, plus they're super light and I'd imagine if hooked up right it could pull some impressive numbers!!! hmmmmm.....wonder if Vortech has an SC for it, that'd be sweet!!!!!
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Even if he gets you off the line, you will beat him in a top speed contest. Are those S-10's governed? Speed limiter??
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Old 12-19-2000, 01:23 PM
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Just don't race a GMC Syclone or you'll be seriously humiliated. They've got AWD and a 4.3L turbo V6. Definitely not your ordinary S-10!

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Old 12-19-2000, 01:33 PM
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now those things are killers. they have 280 hp!
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we had a 92 S-10 that we dropped a 327 with a munci 4 spd into. that thing was FAST! We had some trouble getting it to hook up so We ended up starting to tub the bed, then we realized how dumb of a project it was cause the truck has like 180,000 miles on it, and we only paid like 500 bucks for it, and the motor/tranny we just had layin in the weeds out of my buddy's old nova. so we sold it for 2,000 dollars as a project truck. some dumb kid bought it. You know what else are QUICK since we're speaking of trucks, the jeep grand cherokees with the 5.9 in them. They'll light up all 4. I have a pic, i'll try to post it on my website. also, i'll post my new site's address. it's extreme import racing. Oh s-10's, i've never been beat by one. my buddy has a 4cyl SS, (isn't that sad, they make a 4 cyl SS) and i DESTROY it. i've raced 6's and kept up, never been "beat" by one. that's just in my experience though
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The ones with the 4.3 vortech v6 arnt that bad. the MPFI version of it is even better(but are not that common).
A friend of mine has a 4 cylinder one...its pretty sad
 
Old 12-20-2000, 06:27 AM
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Yeah I have an auto, and that's probably my main problem. When I race those trucks though, they beat me off the start, but when I hit about 3.5K or so, i usually blow them away. And does someone know exactly what a torque converter does? I still didn't get a decent explanation, I wanna get one, if it is gonna help make my max faster.
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You wanna talk about an embarassing roadkill. I got killed by my friend's '94 Sierra GT. I would put that truck up against any of y'all. That thing was as fast if not faster than an F-150 Lightining. He had a few goodies on it, but no supercharger or anything. Damn!!!
 
Old 12-20-2000, 07:12 AM
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You can mod an S-10 out the ****

They make SC and Turbo kits for em. And them being trucks, the exhaust setup possiblities are almost endless
 
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My $.02

There is an old hot rodding adage that says, "There is no substitute for cubic inches." Well, in this case, you have a pickup truck with a 190hp 4.3L V6 versus a Maxima SE (190)or GXE (170)with a 3.0 liter V6.

The reason I say that they will get you on the jump is that the 4.3 provides a good amount of Bottom End torque (around 250-260 ft/lbs) and couple that with many people who order these vehicles with a 3.73:1 axle ratio and you are going to have a truck that will take off pretty quick.

One person asked if there is a supercharger for these vehicles. The answer is yes. Vortech does make a blower for the 4.3. Another person mentioned Syclones and Lightnings. Truthfully, the only way I would tangle with those two is by fighting fire with fire (e.g.,'87 GN/GNX, Supercharged '96 Impala SS, Typhoon, or in our cases, a Stillen SMX with a 50-100 hp Nitrous System).

The thing I have learned about GenIII Maximas is that they are pretty punchy in the middle of the powerband and the S-10 (unless it has been modified) is not going to have enough midrange punch to compensate for the Maxima.
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