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Old 01-12-2001 | 04:58 AM
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Hey guys I just sold my other car so I'm in the market for a maxima. I've lookked at 95,96,98 max's. I have yet to check out a 94 se 5spd. Is the 0-60 close to that of the fourth generation max. I was just wondering becuase I saw a really good dell that an older man has its a 1994 se 5spd, 76,000 original miles. He wants 6,500 for it. So the main question here is can a 1994 keep up with a 1996.
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Old 01-12-2001 | 06:57 AM
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They both do about a 6.6 0-60

The 96 has 205 ft.lbs. of torque vs. 190 for the 94, but this is offset by the increased weight of the 96...... For the price and what you are getting, it sounds like that 94 is a good deal.
Old 01-12-2001 | 09:55 AM
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actually the early 4th gen's (95-96) are slightly lighter than the 3rd gens! I don't know exactly but it's around 50 lbs or so. This is due to the log-axle and slightly lower quality construction throughout. Drive the '94, you'll love it!

Old 01-12-2001 | 10:45 AM
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Re: They both do about a 6.6 0-60

Originally posted by Czar
The 96 has 205 ft.lbs. of torque vs. 190 for the 94, but this is offset by the increased weight of the 96...... For the price and what you are getting, it sounds like that 94 is a good deal.
Performance of the 96 is better than the 94. I have three friends with 3rd Gen Maxima SE 5spds and I have raced all three. My car is an auto, but I always pull on 92-94 Maximas off the line and top end. Don't get me wrong, a 94 SE 5spd is quick, but even an auto 96 will hang with it if not beat it slightly. I believe this has been discussed before, and some 3rd Gen owners might disagree with me, but this is my experience with my car. Also if any 3rd Gen owner has a faster STOCK 1/8 mile time than 10.087 @72.68mph then post and I wait to be informed.
Old 01-12-2001 | 01:45 PM
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Victim... I believe I have an 1/8th mile to beat that

its from back when I was stock...and my clutch was slipping HORRIBLY from the 1-2 shift
I have to wait till I get home to check the slip though.

my father has a 97 Max auto and my car was noticably quicker even before my mods. there wasnt THAT much of a difference between the 95/96 and 97-99 was there?

but as far as I am concerned, get the 94 and use the money you save to ge ta y-pipe and ECU, then you will be spanking 4th gens all over the damn place!
Old 01-12-2001 | 01:46 PM
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Re: Re: They both do about a 6.6 0-60

Your saying your 96 auto can beat a VE 5-spd?? Maybe your friends don't know how to race in a manual VE? I can beat some stock 4th gen autos with my auto. I've also raced some VE auto's and 5-spd's. I can beat the auto's but the 5-spd's have more top end and pull harder and will beat my auto. BTW, I have a VG engine. So how does your 96 auto beat a 92-94 SE 5-spd? They run mid 15's at the track stock. Your auto should be running high 15's. The auto VE's run low-mid 16's.



[QUOTE]Originally posted by Victim64
Performance of the 96 is better than the 94. I have three friends with 3rd Gen Maxima SE 5spds and I have raced all three. My car is an auto, but I always pull on 92-94 Maximas off the line and top end. Don't get me wrong, a 94 SE 5spd is quick, but even an auto 96 will hang with it if not beat it slightly. I believe this has been discussed before, and some 3rd Gen owners might disagree with me, but this is my experience with my car. Also if any 3rd Gen owner has a faster STOCK 1/8 mile time than 10.087 @72.68mph then post and I wait to be informed.
Old 01-12-2001 | 05:14 PM
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Alright, I will reply to both:

JonnyMax: We have been through this before, and NO your time slip didn't beat mine. I think you had one that was 10.1 or 10.2 stock with your (slipping clutch). Nice time (given your clutch), but your aren't going to pull on me, because I also have pulled on stock 97-99 Maximas. Not by much but slightly.

SkyMax: If you look at other Stock autos times in the 1/8 that would also put me in mid 15s at the track with my 1/8 mile time. Also, your theory that my friends can't drive a 5spd would mean that I can't drive one either, since we have had different people drive their cars at the track to try and beat my time, but NO LUCK!!! However, the only thing I have to compare is my 1/8 mile. That is great that you have done what you have said, but road races don't mean much. If you have a faster time slip in the 1/8, then I will be impressed.

I am willing to accept FACTS, and this is not a 3rd Gen vs a 4th Gen war. IF IT IS A MAXIMA THEN IT IS A FAST 4 DOOR regardless of its Gen. You can't go wrong either way. However, if you do what JonnyMax told you to do, then you run the chance of getting a 5spd with a (slipping clutch) and you will have to fix that before you even get your first mod!!!!

As I have stated before, in this post and others, if their is a 3rd Gen owner that has gotten a faster 1/8 mile time with there car when stock, then please tell us about it.




[Edited by Victim64 on 01-12-2001 at 07:33 PM]
Old 01-12-2001 | 06:26 PM
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Damn dude.... Its all cool!!!

Chill man I forgot that I mentioned the 10.1 run to you before.

Of course it will be hard to find a 3rd gen that goes to the track and is still stock. but I am confident that I could have had 1/8th mile run under 10 seconds if I had purchased my new clutch beforehand. but thats just speculation on my part based on how badly my clutch was slipping at the time.

Now I have raced my Father in his 97 Max auto and pulled on him HARD, there was no question of which was faster. I guess you could be a better driver... but they are Autos so I dont see much difference there either.

But I agree, there is no War here !
Old 01-12-2001 | 06:34 PM
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Nah, everything is cool........

I just want to make sure the facts are straight. Oh, is your fathers Maxima a GXE, SE, or GLE. Also, if he didn't manually shift his auto then he wasn't getting all he could out of it. Plus the ECU learns to adapt to the person driving it all the time. If that person pushes his car all the time then the ECU will adhere to that driving style.

I wish we had more people with time slips........
Old 01-12-2001 | 07:03 PM
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You want to see my 1/8 mile times?? Look below... I'm on the right side, my friend's MX-6 is on the left.

<img src="http://www.geocities.com/skymax90se/maxima/timeslip_2.jpg">
Old 01-12-2001 | 07:08 PM
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Stock times would be nice!!!!

Originally posted by SkyMax
You want to see my 1/8 mile times?? Look below... I'm on the right side, my friend's MX-6 is on the left.

<img src="http://www.geocities.com/skymax90se/maxima/timeslip_2.jpg">
Nice times, but we need stock times. Hey, what happened to your car, and do you have it fixed? It looked sweet in the After pic....
Old 01-12-2001 | 07:28 PM
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Re: Nah, everything is cool........

Originally posted by Victim64
I just want to make sure the facts are straight. Oh, is your fathers Maxima a GXE, SE, or GLE. Also, if he didn't manually shift his auto then he wasn't getting all he could out of it. Plus the ECU learns to adapt to the person driving it all the time. If that person pushes his car all the time then the ECU will adhere to that driving style.

I wish we had more people with time slips........
Well it is a GXE, and he did not manually shift it... but he is a very agressive Driver...(thats where I learned it from ). Dont get me wrong!!! there is nothing Id like more than a VQ-K sitting in my engine bay!
Old 01-12-2001 | 09:28 PM
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Re: Victim... I believe I have an 1/8th mile to beat that

the main difference that arises in 4th gens is the intro of stricter emmision standards on the 97+ cars. In some cases there is a 10+ hp/torque difference between the years. OBDII is a hippies joy ; car enthusiest nightmare


I'd be willing to bet a shiny quarter that if california did not have such strict emmision standards we would have seen the r33 or 34 state side, but alas the hippes get their way....





FroMan

Originally posted by JonnyMax

my father has a 97 Max auto and my car was noticably quicker even before my mods. there wasnt THAT much of a difference between the 95/96 and 97-99 was there?

Old 01-13-2001 | 10:17 AM
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1/8th mile time...

my best 1/8th for my stock 93 SE auto is 10.168@ 71.01mph......if that solves anything.....that's with 18" rims on.
Old 01-13-2001 | 01:09 PM
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Re: Stock times would be nice!!!!

Got hit by a Ford Explorer who sent me into the guardrail on the highway and $7K in damage + $2K in tranny damage. The owner of the Explorer didn't bother to stop and I didn't get the plate #'s so the accident was a total loss for me (insurance didn't pay me a penny for the damage). Bye Bye Turbo project


Originally posted by Victim64
but we need stock times. Hey, what happened to your car, and do you have it fixed? It looked sweet in the After pic....
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