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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 08:03 PM
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ok guys i tried usin' the search function but i don't know y it wouldn't let me use it anyways i was thinkin' if anyone has tried to swap out their vg motor and drop a ve 5-speed motor in a '93 gxe??? so guys just let me know if its possible or not??? don't flame me about this please. i think this has been discussed already but like i said the search function wouldn't let me use it. so guys help me out here.

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Old Apr 7, 2003 | 11:28 PM
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Re: swappin' engines

Originally posted by GRNMAXDMON
ok guys i tried usin' the search function but i don't know y it wouldn't let me use it anyways i was thinkin' if anyone has tried to swap out their vg motor and drop a ve 5-speed motor in a '93 gxe??? so guys just let me know if its possible or not??? don't flame me about this please. i think this has been discussed already but like i said the search function wouldn't let me use it. so guys help me out here.

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I hear you can because its a bolt on,... but its a b!tch to do with everything working right afterwards
Old Apr 7, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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swappin yo
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 04:31 AM
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I hear you can because its a bolt on
have you seen the motor mounts on a vg? and have you seen the motor mounts on a ve? bolt on means no modification at all.

yeah you can do anything if you have the money, but for the money you would spend for the swap you might as well just buy a VE 5spd and forget about the gxe
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 05:06 AM
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Probably easier to drop in a sr20det or a rb25dett in the engine bay plus you would get more power

When i have the money I'll probably do this to my max (do an engine/tranny transplant).

Just a thought. I have a feeling i am about to be flammed.
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Originally posted by chavez

Just a thought. I have a feeling i am about to be flammed.
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by chavez
Probably easier to drop in a sr20det or a rb25dett in the engine bay plus you would get more power

When i have the money I'll probably do this to my max (do an engine/tranny transplant).

Just a thought. I have a feeling i am about to be flammed.
you want to get same size or bigger motor..not go smaller..
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:36 AM
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I am going to stick a 5 liter in mine.
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 07:44 AM
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I am going to stick a 5 liter in mine.
why so small?

i'm going to rock a 1.3 liter Metro motor in mine soon.
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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i'm going to rock a 1.3 liter Metro motor in mine soon.
I already have one of those in the trunk, it powers the rear wheels.

Old Apr 8, 2003 | 08:52 AM
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have you seen the motor mounts on a vg? and have you seen the motor mounts on a ve? bolt on means no modification at all.

yeah you can do anything if you have the money, but for the money you would spend for the swap you might as well just buy a VE 5spd and forget about the gxe
Just get a VE x-memeber... anyway if you want to mod a car, you should get one that is worth modding..
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:52 AM
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Originally posted by GRNMAXDMON
ok guys i tried usin' the search function but i don't know y it wouldn't let me use it anyways i was thinkin' if anyone has tried to swap out their vg motor and drop a ve 5-speed motor in a '93 gxe??? so guys just let me know if its possible or not??? don't flame me about this please. i think this has been discussed already but like i said the search function wouldn't let me use it. so guys help me out here.

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You're just swapping one crappy motor for another if that's the case. Spending that much money, that is...

Seriously, where did you think this question would go? lol This is the third thread I've seen about this today. If you want a VE, go get a VE. Sell your VG powered GXE and get a damn SE. I mean, have you ever even seen a VE??? If you have, then you would easily be able to determine that trying to swap one is obviously beyond you anyway. You could buy a VE maxima and repair the crappy ticking VTCs with less money than it would cost to swap the engines, and you would still have a GXE to tool around in or sell for more money. C'mon, dude. Just slap a 454 in it, bro. Then you'll be hangin with the big boyz

If you really are crazy about swapping a motor from a car into another car... buy a honduh. That way you can do us all an awesome write-up on how to turn your 95 hp Civic into a 120 hp Civic for just under $3000!!!!! That would be so cool!!!!
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damn and i had my hopes up guys but thanx for tellin' me all the info u provided me
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:19 PM
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Re: Re: swappin' engines

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to turn your 95 hp Civic into a 120 hp Civic for just under $3000!!!!! That would be so cool!!!!
don't hate on the Hondas...I helped finish a B16a1 swap into a CRX over spring break...its only making ~140hp at the wheels but stock its still faster than a stock VG and VGT... DOHC Vtec and sub 3000lb car = the great equalizer!
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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but stock its still faster than a stock VG and VGT...
VGT?
Old Apr 8, 2003 | 10:32 PM
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VGT?
maybe I exaggerated a little, but stock for stock I'd say its probably as fast(low 15's)...the stock VGT isn't impressive. but none the less an upgraded VGT(probably I/E) would lay waste to the Honda though!!!
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 05:56 AM
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maybe I exaggerated a little, but stock for stock I'd say its probably as fast(low 15's)...the stock VGT isn't impressive. but none the less an upgraded VGT(probably I/E) would lay waste to the Honda though!!!
My 89 Maxima is faster than that in the .25, but yeah. Isn't that an Acura engine? Funny how you have to swap engines in a Honduh to get anywhere.
I'm not hating, I just think it's funny... there are a few honduhs out there I would like to own. None of them are Civics, though...
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 08:51 AM
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your 89 is faster than what?? only way VG sees low 15s is on FI or built...I've helped put together 2 B16 CRXs so far that have seen low 15s with just intake and good driving. B16a1 is a JDM Honda engine used in the Integra XSi and the Euro spec Honda CRX. I love the VG and VGT and but stock for stock in the Max and 300zx compared to most other moderate output motors they are dogs!

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My 89 Maxima is faster than that in the .25, but yeah. Isn't that an Acura engine? Funny how you have to swap engines in a Honduh to get anywhere.
I'm not hating, I just think it's funny... there are a few honduhs out there I would like to own. None of them are Civics, though...
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 09:03 AM
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your 89 is faster than what?? only way VG sees low 15s is on FI or built...I've helped put together 2 B16 CRXs so far that have seen low 15s with just intake and good driving. B16a1 is a JDM Honda engine used in the Integra XSi and the Euro spec Honda CRX. I love the VG and VGT and but stock for stock in the Max and 300zx compared to most other moderate output motors they are dogs!

you know what i have under my hood.

and i stand by my earlier statement!!! lol you can spend $3K trying to squeeze 25 more horsepower out of a honda or you can spend the same amount of money with many other engines and end up +90

Don't get me wrong, I'm not a total Honda hater... they are by far some of the most reliable cars on the road and I've owned a few... an accord and a civic... but it's all about the power to money spent ratio.
Old Apr 9, 2003 | 10:23 PM
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Re: Re: Re: swappin' engines

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don't hate on the Hondas...I helped finish a B16a1 swap into a CRX over spring break...its only making ~140hp at the wheels but stock its still faster than a stock VG and VGT... DOHC Vtec and sub 3000lb car = the great equalizer!
i call BS on the claim that the B16a1 CRX is faster than a turbocharged VG. sure it weighs less than 3000 lbs, but 3rd gens only weigh 3200 give or take.
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 07:41 AM
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guys come on lets try to keep this conversation under the same question i asked for u know. i ain't no honda hater but come on. but since ur talkin' about it i helped my boy drop a B16a2 into his '93 civic hb. and im not lying to u guys by saying this but that little car with that motor has taken mustang 5.0, porsche boxster, camaro z28, and theres the usual tricked out hondas, acuras, etc... i was a with him during all these races that he's had with all those cars i just listed. all he has is just a cai, obx full exhaust system.
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 08:10 AM
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i call BS on the claim that the B16a1 CRX is faster than a turbocharged VG. sure it weighs less than 3000 lbs, but 3rd gens only weigh 3200 give or take.
I love how you talk but have no first hand experience...... VGT in a 300zx runs mid/low 15s...B16a1 CRX runs low /mid 15's wheres the difference??? stock VGT will lose steam on the top end too, so what does that tell you??
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 08:13 AM
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I love how you talk but have no first hand experience...... VGT in a 300zx runs mid/low 15s...B16a1 CRX runs low /mid 15's wheres the difference??? stock VGT will lose steam on the top end too, so what does that tell you??
I'm going to stay out of this one because I know you're right...
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 02:10 PM
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I love how you talk but have no first hand experience...... VGT in a 300zx runs mid/low 15s...B16a1 CRX runs low /mid 15's wheres the difference??? stock VGT will lose steam on the top end too, so what does that tell you??
Also, the z31's are a bit heavier than our maimas- somewhere around 3500 lbs.
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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my buddy has an 89 crx it weighs 1900lb with him in it and has a b18 block with a b16 head for high compression and is biult well he runs mid 13's and i know it didnt cost him near 3k but hes got the hookup on everything
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Originally posted by subs1000w
my buddy has an 89 crx it weighs 1900lb with him in it
CHRIST!!! what else is stripped from off that thing?? and what chasis CRX is it, I think the HF was the lightest.
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i call BS on the claim that the B16a1 CRX is faster than a turbocharged VG. sure it weighs less than 3000 lbs, but 3rd gens only weigh 3200 give or take.
i call BS to your claim of BS

power to weight ratio...

i'd much rather have the top end of a VTEC motor especially in a 2500lb or less car than the top end of a VG motor in ANY car ANY day. the VG top end is horrible. stock for stock i'll take the honda. modded VGT...different story
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i call BS to your claim of BS

power to weight ratio...

i'd much rather have the top end of a VTEC motor especially in a 2500lb or less car than the top end of a VG motor in ANY car ANY day. the VG top end is horrible. stock for stock i'll take the honda. modded VGT...different story
I think its just ignorance and the bad rep. that hondas get because so many are "riced out" , some people just repeat what they hear and dont know what they are talking about. A lot of my freinds have hondas and acuras, some stock with GSR's and some with swapped b-16's and gsr;s and other honda motors, and let me tell you those cars are no joke, me and my freind had a 92 integra with a 99 si motor and that thing was an animal, and it was basically stock.
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I think its just ignorance and the bad rep. that hondas get because so many are "riced out" , some people just repeat what they hear and dont know what they are talking about. A lot of my freinds have hondas and acuras, some stock with GSR's and some with swapped b-16's and gsr;s and other honda motors, and let me tell you those cars are no joke, me and my freind had a 92 integra with a 99 si motor and that thing was an animal, and it was basically stock.
exactally
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 09:26 PM
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damn

what is this crap guys this is a maxima forum not a honda forum. i dont know about you guys i love my max and yes i love my vg motor. I dont hate on hondas but this is a maxima forum ok so who the hell cares just go take it up in the general forum
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 09:42 PM
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ok so who the hell cares just go take it up in the general forum
did someone say something...i thought I heard something?? if you don't like it, don't read it in other words STFU!
Old Apr 10, 2003 | 10:57 PM
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well, i havent posted here in a while, mainly been on the sr20 boards, but i have to say, is i dont totally hate on honduhs, but somoen said before in this thread is, in most of the hondas you see on the streets, to make them fast you do a swap. with most nissans you se on the streets, you dont have to. i just helped finish a 200sx SE_R with the jdm sr20de swap, which is still the SAME engine that came with the car, just the jdm version, and with only an intake and exhasut, he was runnign 14.1 , with some minor weight reduction. a friend of mine just got a honduh hatch, i think a 95 and he spen over $2k for a jdm h22a (wile my friend only paid $350 shipped for the sr20) and was talikin alot os sh*t about how he fast gonna be so fast la la la, and he ended up still runing low 15s high 14s, and he kept saying, ohh, i was spinning first, etc. all i am saying is i would take a nissan any day over a honduh, and for the $$ my friend spent on his h22a i could have bout a GTiR sr20det an been runnign MUCH faster then he is with his plans to upgrade and add boost. as for the 300zx with mods, well, thats another story, and we all know the outcome to that. peace
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i think that some people dont do enough research on stuff when there do things like engine swaps 2000 is rediculas for an engine like that you could get one off ebay for 1/5 of that price the people that i know never pay more that a 100$ for a motor and then send it to the machine shop for new internals and dont even break a 1k and have a built motor with a bad azz bottom end but some people just dont have the knoledge to do something like that
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ok so i guess the ve motor doesn't fit in a gxe model obviously i haven't seen an se upclose to c the motor mounts and compare but what is the difference in motor mounts??? r they bigger smaller or r they in different spots in the engine bay???
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Originally posted by GRNMAXDMON
ok so i guess the ve motor doesn't fit in a gxe model obviously i haven't seen an se upclose to c the motor mounts and compare but what is the difference in motor mounts??? r they bigger smaller or r they in different spots in the engine bay???
They are in different spots in the engine bay. I think that one of them is a different shape, too, but I really don't remember. I know they are in different spots, though...
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well im crazy when it comes to doin' stuff like this cuz i really want to do a swap in my car but i have to look at an se upclose then. if its too much in difference in where the mounts r located then i'll just buy a ve 5-speed. im tired of my auto tranny. like i told u in the other thread this p.o.s. tranny is leakin' and im hopein' its from the valve body. cuz if its from the seal again for the 8 time im gonna have to bring the tranny down again possibly goin' to be takin' it out for another 8 times which its a p.i.t.a. to do. oh well thanks again geoff.
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