Next mod is a short shifter, now the thing is I want to know what brand is better. I heard of Pace Setter, SMC and Stillen. I am leaning towards the Stillen short shifter but I wanted some input on these shifters from owners who have experience with them. Does the original shift **** screw in perfectly? Is there a bushing I should change when installing the new short shifter, if so the name of the bushing so I can order it.

All responses are greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

jay cant make fun of your "mack truck shifter" anymore

from what he told me its better to have one with a metal ball.. ill probably get one after the swap

did the AE **** just simply screw on the stock shifter?

 

while we are on this topic...is true or just a rumor that short shifters are harder on the synchros and increase wear?? I assuming only because you tend to shift harder with it, but is this true??

 

I was thinking about that Da-Max, because even if you shift slowly you're still shifting fast in a way because you're covering a lot of territory in a shift with a short shifter. I'm still trying to decide also because my tanny has no probs and I don't want to put this and probably have problems in the future.

Joe: yea I want to do something about the height also.

 

I am also curious to know if this is true.

-Sean

 

Personally, I would stay away from Pacesetter. JCWhitney sells that for $60, and you know the saying, "you get what you pay for." That's my opinion. The SMC sts for $130 appears to be a good deal. Not only is the throw shorter, but the ****er is shorter as well, thus creating easier access to the head unit. Now as for Stillen, we all know their CNC is good stuff. Their price may be steep, but I heard (not clear) that they go the extra mile and replace linkage or something like that. My guess is the throw is shorter, but the shifter is at stock length. All in all, I was thinking about getting the SMC due to price and reliability. To each his own though right.

-Sean

 

actually I've heard great things about Pacesetters STS on the Integra borad I goto....I guess only their exhaust systems suck ***! I really want one, but I'm VERY hesistant due to the stories I hear of premature synchro wear. and actually if you can't really use price as a comparison, because "higher end" B&M Edge shifter is only $50-60 as well. also I like the Pacesetter because it is adjustable. I hate the super short and slightly angled B&M in my friends CRX, maybe its just me, but you have to reach uncomfortably farther just to grab 3rd and 5th sometimes.

 

i have the pacesetter short shifter but i have yet to install it because i am waitin for my uncle because he has a lift... sucks that i have to go under the car to intstall it... anyways as soon as i do ill let you guys know how it feels and everything

 

I got a Pacesetter STS, but it's not installed yet. Seems to be a quality unit.

The Stillen is not adjustable.

I'll give you more info after I install if you like.

 

btw i also like that the pacesetter is adjustable too

 

what's a downside of cutting the stock shifter by about 2.5 inches? reason i ask is all i want is a short stick (that sounds really nasty) and be able to see my xm unit clearly. I also want to put a z shift **** which is longer and would make up for some of the cut shifter.

 

Thanks for the input guys, I will try to make decision soon and will update you with it. I'm leaning towards stillen for now.

Lordrandall: I would appreciate that greatly.

Lophix: Just by holding the shifter from the bottom and shifting makes the throws feel better. I guess cutting is not a bad idea but it ain't my style I want a brand name thing.

 

I might be getting the SMC one this weekend, but if its gonna wear the synchros prematurely, here comes the hacksaw

 

dont buy the SMC, the ball is plastic and expands when hot and makes it hard to move the shifter (except when going throught the gears while driving, but this could be because I might not have the heat shield under it, when I get a chance I will look.

 

well isnt it greased around the ball so theres no friction?

i dunno i may stay with the stock shifter when its swapped, i was sitting in my red 5sp shifting it through and i kinda like the feel

 

why are your tails yellow

 

I dont mind the throws, its just the height! My arms are long so it feels like I'm driving a truck with the tall stick

 

I was actually going to post about short shifter suggestions, so thanks for starting one. How hard are they to install?

 

I'm also in the market for a short-throw kit. Who makes one that changes the linkages with new bushings? I want to keep the shifters height, i'm 6'4" and i like the mack truck height its comfortable.

 

it's a very expensive chance to take...one i dont want to have to pay for again (tranny rebuild) i'll be sawing mine down as soon as I get a z shift **** in.

 

, obviously I didn't spell something right in my second post. Mind you I didn't do it intentionally.

Seems like I remember someone mentioning that the Pacesetter had issues at the cat heat shield, that the shield had to be dented slightly to allow the sts to fit properly Decisions, decisions.

-Sean

 

Someone correct me if Im wrong, but I dont see how a STS would cause any more harm to the tranny than the stock shifter. If you compared a stock vs STS side by side, you would see how it shortens the throws- the section below the bushing on the STS is longer than stock. Its all about leverage. By lengthening the bottom side, the linkage will move the same distance (front to back) with less movement on the top (hence, shortening the throws). Therefore, with the STS, the effort it takes to move the shifter will increase because you are doing the same amount of work in a shorter distance (IE, you have less leverage). The transmission sees no difference. The only downfall is that sometimes with the increase in length on the bottom half, the shifter extends far enough to rub or bump the heat shield for the catalytic converter.

 

Not bad if you don't mind getting dirty and your arms getting tired.



I've removed mine a few times before I got the shifter to try and move the stock pivot ball down, but it didn't work for me. Since my CAT bolts are frozen, I just moved it to the side. It's much easier if you can remove the CAT.

Not a hard mod.

 

Stillen wants $234.00 for it but they claim that they include everything new. I might go with Stillen but I have to bring that price down...yikes

 

The Pacesetter comes with a new lower dust boot, and everything else you need to install. What else does the Stillen come with, new shifter mounts?

 

Yes I think so, I will make sure and tell you tonight.

 

bu,p i am in the market for one tooo.. update please

 

D-sta get the stillen one

 

stillen this stillen that.. why dont you get sponsered by them

 

I am sponsered by them.

 

stillen is the ****

 

I got him sponsored and Jason is getting there also, since he placed I think his first order with them and he was very happy!

 

After installing UR's pulley, I experience a lot of rpm loss between shifts with the stock shifter. Now I need an STS to compensate for the loss.

-Sean

 

I'm still thinking but I am leaning towards the stillen one. In time I think it will be in my car and I'll write a review

 

yeah man, James really hooked me up with that price, I also ordered the cat and y today, now I just have to find a udp

 

you ordered the stillen y-pipej/k.... i have to talk to this james and see what i get get

 

I've only tried the Pacesetter STS before. Seemed to be a good product for such a competetive price.

 

Oh so now u want to sponsored by stillen right.

 

if stillen gave me all the parts i needed, heck, i'll tatoo it on my butt so i can let all the ricers chiss my fatty

 

geez all i see in yours and diegos sig is "Stillen... stillen....stillen...stillen..."

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