MAX PERFORMANCE INTAKE CHIP (pic)
#1
MAX PERFORMANCE INTAKE CHIP (pic)
Saw this on Ebay: Anyone tried one of these???
Here's the Ebay Link
For about #35, doesn't have to do much to be worth it. What does it do, if anything?
Here's the Ebay Link
For about #35, doesn't have to do much to be worth it. What does it do, if anything?
#5
i think thess thing work by advancing the timing 1 or two degrees because its a resistor type deal and tricks the sensor to believing the air is colder. is it worth it? no because you can advance the timing yourself without having to pay 30+ dollars for a device that says "mach10 performance chip" or whatever. i doubt these devices can give you the "real" performance gains that a "real" ecu such as jwt provides. but if you think a little box that says "mach10 performance" in your engine bay is cool for decoration or whatever then go for it. other wise i wouldnt spend my money on items like that. just my opinion. also the same resistor type mod can be found more much cheaper like under 10 dollars just without the happy box and or logos on it. if you want to do that mod, go for it,to each his own.
#6
I thought it just richened the fuel mixture, I guess not though.
I found a site with more info on how to do it: http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...ricker_mod.htm
And also, it's nothing but a resistor which you can buy for 40 cents in Radio Shack. If you bought one on Ebay, you got ripped off.
I found a site with more info on how to do it: http://www.installuniversity.com/ins...ricker_mod.htm
And also, it's nothing but a resistor which you can buy for 40 cents in Radio Shack. If you bought one on Ebay, you got ripped off.
#9
Originally posted by gowirelessnj
its definitly a money remover. Dont bothor with that look into a real ecu chip.
its definitly a money remover. Dont bothor with that look into a real ecu chip.
eek!
Yes, I've check into a "Real" ECU chip. Have you??? Except it's not just a chip. It's an entire modified ECCU unit with upgraded ROM chips. Certainly, anyone who can afford to give Jim Wolf Technology about $1000 and get a small chunk of it back (refund on ECCU core charge) should not consider ANY $35 chip!!!javascript:smilie('')
big grin
Here's the real gotcha; JWT desiged the core software code (EPROMs) intended for engines modified well outside the design envelope for near-stock car/ECCU. When I called JWT, they openly admit that their EECU will only yield very modest gains with a basicly stock engine. Their EECU is designed for cars which already have Thousands of Dollars of other mods first. If you have $6000- $8000 to drop on a full turbo plus accompannmying engine/transmission/axle upgrades so your car will hold together, or want to chance blowing up your engine with NO, and still have money burning a hole in your pocket; by all means get an "REAL" ECU upgrade from JWT.
For the rest of us slogging mortals, picking up 5-10hp here and there inexpensively is worth thinking about. If any of these things work, and apparently they do in some cases, then some of you might even want to buy the thing. You can't even get a K&N based intake for that amount of chicken feed.
#10
Originally posted by RMAX54
For the rest of us slogging mortals, picking up 5-10hp here and there inexpensively is worth thinking about.
For the rest of us slogging mortals, picking up 5-10hp here and there inexpensively is worth thinking about.
#11
quit b!tchin and use the SEARCH. Someone asks about this thing once a week. Opinions haven't changed... it's a rip off. You won't get 1 hp out of it... maybe a tenth at best... but 5-10? What kind of ricer math is that?? Yeah, my pop-charger gives me 50 hp... wanna buy it? I've also got ocean-front property in Montana for sale...
#13
Originally posted by RMAX54
Allow me set the record straight. I'm not expecting ANY superchip to suddenly transform my VG30E Max into a rocket ship. Although there's lots of negative feedback for these Ebay Sellers, most are from buyers hacked off becasue they paid $35 for a resistor, and have not installed it yet. Of the ones that HAVE installed the thing, well over half are reporting noticible performance gains. I AM NOT onsidering buying this "Ebay Wonder". I AM interested in which engine parameter the guy is trying to tweak IF IT WORKS (which it apparently does for fair number of cars) so I/WE can duplicate it ourselves - all without any Mach stickers. Advancing the timing I'm well capable of without his box to do it, IF that's what it's doing. If it makes the air/fuel ratio richer by fooling the MAF for example, then we might pick up 5-10hp, especially if preceded by a WS Y pipe and better intake. That's about all we're getting by machining out trottle bodies, and buying JWT Pop Chargers; and I see no deratory comments on this forum about doing THAT!!javascript:smilie('')
eek!
Yes, I've check into a "Real" ECU chip. Have you??? Except it's not just a chip. It's an entire modified ECCU unit with upgraded ROM chips. Certainly, anyone who can afford to give Jim Wolf Technology about $1000 and get a small chunk of it back (refund on ECCU core charge) should not consider ANY $35 chip!!!javascript:smilie('')
big grin
Here's the real gotcha; JWT desiged the core software code (EPROMs) intended for engines modified well outside the design envelope for near-stock car/ECCU. When I called JWT, they openly admit that their EECU will only yield very modest gains with a basicly stock engine. Their EECU is designed for cars which already have Thousands of Dollars of other mods first. If you have $6000- $8000 to drop on a full turbo plus accompannmying engine/transmission/axle upgrades so your car will hold together, or want to chance blowing up your engine with NO, and still have money burning a hole in your pocket; by all means get an "REAL" ECU upgrade from JWT.
For the rest of us slogging mortals, picking up 5-10hp here and there inexpensively is worth thinking about. If any of these things work, and apparently they do in some cases, then some of you might even want to buy the thing. You can't even get a K&N based intake for that amount of chicken feed.
Allow me set the record straight. I'm not expecting ANY superchip to suddenly transform my VG30E Max into a rocket ship. Although there's lots of negative feedback for these Ebay Sellers, most are from buyers hacked off becasue they paid $35 for a resistor, and have not installed it yet. Of the ones that HAVE installed the thing, well over half are reporting noticible performance gains. I AM NOT onsidering buying this "Ebay Wonder". I AM interested in which engine parameter the guy is trying to tweak IF IT WORKS (which it apparently does for fair number of cars) so I/WE can duplicate it ourselves - all without any Mach stickers. Advancing the timing I'm well capable of without his box to do it, IF that's what it's doing. If it makes the air/fuel ratio richer by fooling the MAF for example, then we might pick up 5-10hp, especially if preceded by a WS Y pipe and better intake. That's about all we're getting by machining out trottle bodies, and buying JWT Pop Chargers; and I see no deratory comments on this forum about doing THAT!!javascript:smilie('')
eek!
Yes, I've check into a "Real" ECU chip. Have you??? Except it's not just a chip. It's an entire modified ECCU unit with upgraded ROM chips. Certainly, anyone who can afford to give Jim Wolf Technology about $1000 and get a small chunk of it back (refund on ECCU core charge) should not consider ANY $35 chip!!!javascript:smilie('')
big grin
Here's the real gotcha; JWT desiged the core software code (EPROMs) intended for engines modified well outside the design envelope for near-stock car/ECCU. When I called JWT, they openly admit that their EECU will only yield very modest gains with a basicly stock engine. Their EECU is designed for cars which already have Thousands of Dollars of other mods first. If you have $6000- $8000 to drop on a full turbo plus accompannmying engine/transmission/axle upgrades so your car will hold together, or want to chance blowing up your engine with NO, and still have money burning a hole in your pocket; by all means get an "REAL" ECU upgrade from JWT.
For the rest of us slogging mortals, picking up 5-10hp here and there inexpensively is worth thinking about. If any of these things work, and apparently they do in some cases, then some of you might even want to buy the thing. You can't even get a K&N based intake for that amount of chicken feed.
modding is an expensive hobby..if you can't afford it then don't do it. speed = $
#15
Originally posted by GOST
Yeah what he said!!! ??
Yeah what he said!!! ??
I've got to admit, if 5-10hp is trivial 'riceboy math' I've got to wonder what the HE*L ORG members are doing burning all that server capacity with zillions of posts about about spending a entire weekend milling out throttle bodies, increasing timing, and air intake products all for horsepower increases in a very similar non-gargantuan range. I won't even go into $600 cat backs don't do diddly on the dynos, but are for sound and show only. http://forums.maxima.org/images/smilies/soapbox.gif
Oh, by the way: I'm NOT an Ebay seller of this stuff. My Ebay name is "Flank-speed", and you will find no sales of autmotive parts of any kind in the 290 or so transactions in my feedback going back over 3 years.
#16
....an unintended implied suggestion that ORG members don't know every single possible performance tweak theoretically possible for Maximas....
I've got to wonder what the HE*L ORG members are doing burning all that server capacity with zillions of posts about about spending a entire weekend milling out throttle bodies, increasing timing, and air intake products all for horsepower increases in a very similar non-gargantuan range.
#17
Originally posted by nubiannupe
The funny thing is... some think they DO!
Yeah, curious minds WOULD like to know this. Any of our resident "brain trusts" want to step up to the plate on this one?? Bueller?? BUELLER??
The funny thing is... some think they DO!
Yeah, curious minds WOULD like to know this. Any of our resident "brain trusts" want to step up to the plate on this one?? Bueller?? BUELLER??
forget it. Not even worth it. Just trying to explain that it's a waste of money. Yeah, that intake and cat-back aren't going to give your maxima 100 hp. But guess what: they won't give ANY car 100 hp. Geeze.
I was in a shop yesterday and there was a kid who had just got his injen intake installed on his Mitsubishi Galant. He was talking about the 25-30hp increase and how he's going to race this camaro... lol
Go buy your chip. Just don't say we didn't warn you. And worst yet, don't say you did a SEARCH because this same thing is asked about once a week. If you did a SEARCH, you'd find 100 other threads with some poor fool getting flamed about it.
#18
Originally posted by nubiannupe
Yeah, curious minds WOULD like to know this. Any of our resident "brain trusts" want to step up to the plate on this one?? Bueller?? BUELLER??
Yeah, curious minds WOULD like to know this. Any of our resident "brain trusts" want to step up to the plate on this one?? Bueller?? BUELLER??
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