Hey Guys,

I did the search and I've looked all over the internet to see what everybody's got for an exhuast setup. I was thinkin' about doin' the Warpspeed/Greddy Setup, but I think I want the Stainless Steel Setup from Warpspeed, I don't want any problems with rust.....after all it's cheaper.
So I think I'm gonna go for the T-304 MIG SS Y-pipe, the Metallic Substrate Cat, and the B-Pipe w/ the 2.50" pipe w/ resonator to my Thermal Research and Development Muffler. What do you guys think?
And also, how much did you guys pay for the setup?? The WarpSpeed site is sayin' $275 for the Y-pipe, $175 for the cat, and $170 for the B-pipe. I know it's an awesome deal from WarpSpeed directly, but has anyone found them cheaper, or should I just call Dallas and Dan already?

Thanks guys, Joel

 

I bought a Warpspeed Y-pipe on Ebay for $199+$15 shipping

 

HOLY *** DUDE!!! they wanted 99 for the cat when I called, and warpspeed always has 2 y-pipes on e-bay for 199+shipping. the 170 is the b-pipe and the muffler extension (minus muffler).

if your going to do that, go ahead and get the headers from pacesetter, the come with a y-pipe, and they cost 220 at www.auto-exhaust.com
good luck

EDIT:

$199 here

 

If its engine performance you're looking for, go just for the Warpspeep Y-pipe for $200 (Aluminzed steel, mandrel bent). That's where 90-95% of the extra horsepower will come from in the setup you proposed. If money is no object, go the extra $75 for 304 stainless - only justified by better corrosion resistance to winter road chemicals. It took 14 years for (only parts) of my stock aluminized steel exhaust to corrode, and my Max spent the first 4 years of its life in Pennsylvania. Call Warpspeed and discuss this with Dallas - they've got all different kinds of Cats at different prices - Mine was around $60.
True, I replaced all my exhaust along with the Y-pipe; but that was mainly for maintainence reasons - my original muffler and B pipe were shot, and my Cat was not very far behind.

You're going to pay lots of $$$ for all that (expensive) stainless steel, most of which be good only for appearence. Stainless is NOT cheaper.

 

Hey Guys,

Thanks for the reply's it helps a lot!!

LittlePiggie: I think that $99 price quote they gave you was for a ceramic cat, the new one is a metallic substrate...that might be the reason for the different price. So are you sayin' that the PaceSetter comes with Headers and the Y-Pipe from Import Performance Parts for $279 with the Armor Coat?? Would you take that over just the 304 Stainless Steel WarpSpeed Y-Pipe??

Does anyone else have the PaceSetter setup??

I live in PA and the winter roads get pretty salty, that's why I want the Stainless Steel, help slow the rust...my stock flex pipe is totally rusted, there is a ring that rusted off and is just hanging on the pipe so I'm sure the rest of it is shot!!

Right now it's between the original setup I posted or the PaceSetter Header and Y-pipe w/ a WarpSpeed B-Pipe and my Thermal Research and Development Muffler.
Thanks again guys, Joel

 

i dont think anyone on here has them yet but they look to be very free frowing and you cant beat the price if i had i vg id try um

 

get the armor-coated definately. it's still only 79 more expensive than the y-pipe and you get nice headers too...i really like how they look and I'm ordering them once I get some money.

 

I'm gonna get the armor coated for sure. I can't believe that it's not even 300 for the armor coated headers and y-pipe. I just wish somebody had this setup to let me know what it's like.

 

I'm more than a little concerned over whether those headers will work or not; I ignored them and went with the proven Y-pipe recently on my car instead.
Header design is part black magic and part rocket science. If the're not designed correctly for the engine, alls you get is a LOT of noise, NO power, and corrosion headaches for nothing. There's lots of headers out there on the market that do just that. I've looked in-depth at having custom headers made for two different cars over the last 25 years; what I learned during this process plus corrosion problems experienced on cars of some fellow drag racers I posted in the thread here (2nd page):

Pace Setter Headers

Pacesetter's reputation does not give me a warm fuzzy feeling that they got the header design right - not until somebody tries them and says different. If Warpspeed ever gets their headers out, that will be a differnt kettle of fish - Those people know what they're doing.

 

hey guys, keep the replies comin'...

RMax54, thanks for that link...I agree, if WarpSpeed would put some out they'd sell like hot cakes...I don't know what I'm going to buy yet...

LIKE EVERYONE IS ASKING, IF SOMEONE GET'S THE PACESETTERS, LET US ALL KNOW!!!!

 

One thing I forgot to add - The headers are going to be a drastically more diffiucult install than a Y-Pipe. You're going to have to go through the same thing you have to do to replace broken exhaust manifold studs - and that means unbolting both engine mounts and dropping the engine down to unbolt the rear exhaust studs. Not to mention pulling all belts, alternator, A/C compressor, steering rack, and removing those rusted stubborn bolts on the Cat etc to access the front exhaust manifold studs. While installing the headers, you'll want to replace the exhaust manifold studs with the new Turbo ZX high alloy studs if you haven't already done so. You're likely to find some broken studs that you don't know about. Better have the ez-outs and drill bits ready, plus a right angle drill if any broken ones are on the rear manifold.

Check this thread on replacing the studs to get an idea:


One of My Exhaust Manifold studs is broke????

That's another reason I passed on the headers. I've just been through the stud replacement process, and once was enough. The stock VG exhaust manifolds are really not that restrictive (The VE's are better yet) - I've seen far far worse. Nissan elected to put the restrictions for damping exhaust noise in the Y-pipe - that's why changing it makes such a huge difference.

 

Good call man, I'm thinkin' that the SS WarpSpeed Y-pipe and Metallic Substrate Cat sounds like the way to go for sure...Now I have the decision on if I want to get the WSP B-pipe to the Thermal Research and Development Muffler I already have...or go for a GReddy Cat Back...what do you think???

 

Greddy is both more dressy and pricey. Warpseed is good solid stuff. But to be fair, I'm from the 'old school': If it doesn't add performance, I don't give a flip what it looks like; and since I don't do car shows, I wouldn't pay a nickel for the shiny dresssy stuff. I already have a Warpspeed cat & cat back (except the muffler) - so I'd do that but in Stainless since you may need it there in PA for corrosion reasons. I'd also talk to Dallas at Warpspeed about a longer than normal resonator in the 'B' pipe. Mine was 18" casing, but it looks like it would take a 24" and I'd go that way if I were doing it again. You want this for sure if the muffler is staight thru design.

Be careful on that muffler - if it's a 'see thru' core like a glasspack, it's going to resonate like crazy and vibrate your teeth out during normal driving (that's what the Magnaflow is). Here's what I went through with a Magnaflow Street Series that I originally had put on with my Warpspeed Y-Pipe and 'B' pipe:

Help! All new Exhaust - Magnaflow is Deafening!

It took a Flowmaster SUV muffler intended for big block V8s to get my '90SE tolerable for daily driving with the Y-pipe. The more I drive it, the more I'm starting to love the Flowmaster. It purrs.

 

Good deal man, I think I'm gonna try out the WSP SS Y-Pipe, the Metallic Substrate Cat, and the WSP B-Pipe to my current muffler...right now with the stock exhaust the muffler sounds just right. So I'm gonna try it out with the WarpSpeed stuff and see how it sounds. If it's too loud or resonates too much I'll give the flowmaster a shot. Thanks a lot man for your help!!!

 

i have a aluminized TIG y-pipe from warp and I live in NYC no probs yet, but hell you have 4years rust free gurantee, plus i paid $215 for mine?? I understand paying a little more for the stainless steal, but if you get any dents in it the pipe will be toast!!! Well something along that line as I was told by Dallas @ warp!!!

 

sup guys i got the warpseed y-pipe for 200 and 15 for shipping and also i got the g-reddy cat-bak and all i got to say is that i love it and wouldnt have it no other way.

 

Hey guys,

Now that I got PaceSetter out of the way...I get to choose between the GReddy Cat Back and the WarpSpeed B-Pipe to the Thermal Research and Development muffler I have now. I know GReddy is more expensive...which I can deal with. But I'm most importantly concerned with the corrosion factor. Like I said before, I live in PA where the roads get really salted in winter. I'm wondering which setup will last longer due to the elements... Thanks guys