Have to Decide on y-pipe
11-11-2003, 04:21 PM
#1
Have to Decide on y-pipe
Its time to get rid of the rusty leaking stock y-pipe on 89 5 spd SE.
now i can get a stock y-pipe by Bosal from foreignautoparts.cc for $100 and free shipping and installation for only $28. or i could go for the WSP y-pipe and pay more than $200. + $28.
People who switch to the WSP y pipe consistently report reduced torque before 3000rpm but an increase after 3k rpm. i hardly accelerate beyond 3000rpm. thats been a habit sorta with my maxima.
so what i wanna know is whether the loss of torque before 3000 rpm is significant or just barely noticeable with the WSP y pipe? any other advantages of going for the WSP pipe like better fuel economy or something? thanks.
now i can get a stock y-pipe by Bosal from foreignautoparts.cc for $100 and free shipping and installation for only $28. or i could go for the WSP y-pipe and pay more than $200. + $28.
People who switch to the WSP y pipe consistently report reduced torque before 3000rpm but an increase after 3k rpm. i hardly accelerate beyond 3000rpm. thats been a habit sorta with my maxima.
so what i wanna know is whether the loss of torque before 3000 rpm is significant or just barely noticeable with the WSP y pipe? any other advantages of going for the WSP pipe like better fuel economy or something? thanks.
11-11-2003, 04:36 PM
#4
Originally Posted by gowirelessnj
well i put it on my car and diddnt notice a drop at all. it was a great add on and worth the money. However i have a 93 se with the VE30DE not the VG
11-11-2003, 04:42 PM
#6
Originally Posted by vwink182
drstill-
hey man, never noticed you were from Iowa. You need to get some more people from DM to get on here..theres gotta be a lot of 3rd gens up there.
hey man, never noticed you were from Iowa. You need to get some more people from DM to get on here..theres gotta be a lot of 3rd gens up there.
11-11-2003, 04:47 PM
#7
Originally Posted by drstillpatient
yeah the VG would react differently to the loss of backpressure...thats what i wanna figure out...how significant or insignificat would the power loss before 3000rpm be on a VG.
11-11-2003, 04:49 PM
#8
Originally Posted by drstillpatient
Yup! just moved here to Iowa from Massechusetts (still cant spell it right). I see quite a lot of 3rd gens here. especially in Ames at ISU...a lot of 3rd gens there...i dunno how many others from around here are on the org though.
) There's only 2 other people from Iowa on here I know of. Anyway, from what I've heard, I'd go with the WSP Y...though I don't even have one yet. my .02.
11-11-2003, 06:09 PM
#9
Originally Posted by vwink182
There's nothing wrong with Iowa, but why the heck woudl you move from Mass? It's beautiful out there! Anyway welcome to the hawkeye state..(yup, Hawkeye state, not cyclone state) There's only 2 other people from Iowa on here I know of.
Anyway, from what I've heard, I'd go with the WSP Y...though I don't even have one yet. my .02.
) There's only 2 other people from Iowa on here I know of. Anyway, from what I've heard, I'd go with the WSP Y...though I don't even have one yet. my .02.
i got a job here with State Farm Insurance
... i was unemployed there in Mass so i took the opportunity...i like the gas prices here 
.. too many cornfields though :P heheheh
11-11-2003, 06:40 PM
#10
don't worry about the loss in low end.
if you're really on the gas, how much time are you below 3000rpm?
otherwise, you're driving around town under 3k, and you'r enot flooring it. just push the gas pedal down a bit more and it'll make up for the 2-3-4-5 lb of torque that it may lose.
if you're really on the gas, how much time are you below 3000rpm?
otherwise, you're driving around town under 3k, and you'r enot flooring it. just push the gas pedal down a bit more and it'll make up for the 2-3-4-5 lb of torque that it may lose.
11-11-2003, 07:06 PM
#11
consistent loss? I haven't heard that from anyone that I can remember about Y-pipes. Intakes-yes, but not Y.
If there is some loss, it's not that noticeable and the other gains are worth it
get WSP
If there is some loss, it's not that noticeable and the other gains are worth it
get WSP
11-11-2003, 09:04 PM
#13
I thought I accelerated faster in all RPMs with the Warpspeed pipe. Maybe though it's because my stock Y was leaking horribly.
Trust me dude you won't notice any difference. And besides I thought the VG had more low end torque than the VE anyway?
Trust me dude you won't notice any difference. And besides I thought the VG had more low end torque than the VE anyway?
11-11-2003, 09:10 PM
#14
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Get the Y. The VG needs all the breathing ability it can muster. It already has 180ftlbs-ish of torque.
hmm...i was pretty sure i had read about loss of low end torque cuz of the y-pipe from WSP cuz of the loss of back pressure. i might have been mistaken...
one more question...does the WSP pipe effect fuel economy ? thanks.
11-11-2003, 09:26 PM
#15
jaguax,
the VG DOES have more LOW end torque than the VE. and i am not saying, before others get flame-happy, that the VG is "better." ok? the VE will walk an n/a VG any day of the week.
anyway, there is a slight loss of backpressure when you go with CAI. the loss with the y-pipe is there, but it is practically neglible - once you get up past 3k or so, as people here are benchmarking, you will not notice one iota any compromoise. if anything, you will be surprised at how alive the VG suddenly feels. especially at the higher end. you will know instantly that the needle will peg past the 125 mph factory limit.
to optimize gains and balance the system, you must get a CAI. do not install only one or the other.
the VG DOES have more LOW end torque than the VE. and i am not saying, before others get flame-happy, that the VG is "better." ok? the VE will walk an n/a VG any day of the week.
anyway, there is a slight loss of backpressure when you go with CAI. the loss with the y-pipe is there, but it is practically neglible - once you get up past 3k or so, as people here are benchmarking, you will not notice one iota any compromoise. if anything, you will be surprised at how alive the VG suddenly feels. especially at the higher end. you will know instantly that the needle will peg past the 125 mph factory limit.
to optimize gains and balance the system, you must get a CAI. do not install only one or the other.
11-11-2003, 09:40 PM
#16
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Going for performance? Get the Warpspeed. That's what it's designed optimally for.
Drive like a grandma and like how the car is right now (and just want it quieter?): Go for the stock replacement. That's what it's designed for.
Drive like a grandma and like how the car is right now (and just want it quieter?): Go for the stock replacement. That's what it's designed for.
11-11-2003, 11:19 PM
#17
Ok, i've got the ve so comparison is a bit off, but should hold true. I just put the warpspeed pipe in place of my leaky stock y. I actually gained signifigantly in torque. There may be some loss of low-end torque from well working factory set-up, but that hole in your exhaust is ruining exhaust flow. I promise you will feel gains in low end torque just from the smooth flow of gas so it will only get better. The acceleration is also smoother and definetly worth the extra $.
As far as mileage goes. Theoretically you will get better mileage as your engine is more efficient with the warpspeed pipe, but you probably won't notice any signifigant difference.
As far as mileage goes. Theoretically you will get better mileage as your engine is more efficient with the warpspeed pipe, but you probably won't notice any signifigant difference.
11-12-2003, 08:38 AM
#18
That's because your leaky Y was KILLING your torque. But all and all, a performance Y will give gains pretty much everywhere. And the fact that it's much cheaper than a stock oem Y, Y not?
Originally Posted by xveganxcowboyx
Ok, i've got the ve so comparison is a bit off, but should hold true. I just put the warpspeed pipe in place of my leaky stock y. I actually gained signifigantly in torque. There may be some loss of low-end torque from well working factory set-up, but that hole in your exhaust is ruining exhaust flow. I promise you will feel gains in low end torque just from the smooth flow of gas so it will only get better. The acceleration is also smoother and definetly worth the extra $.
As far as mileage goes. Theoretically you will get better mileage as your engine is more efficient with the warpspeed pipe, but you probably won't notice any signifigant difference.
As far as mileage goes. Theoretically you will get better mileage as your engine is more efficient with the warpspeed pipe, but you probably won't notice any signifigant difference.
11-12-2003, 08:54 AM
#19
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
That's because your leaky Y was KILLING your torque. But all and all, a performance Y will give gains pretty much everywhere. And the fact that it's much cheaper than a stock oem Y, Y not?
actually 1/2 the price of the warpspeed
11-12-2003, 08:57 AM
#20
Yeah, but how about the quality?? I guarantee you an aftermarket unit won't last 100,000 miles like the oem frequentely does
Originally Posted by internetautomar
Aftermarket y's aren't too badly priced.
actually 1/2 the price of the warpspeed
actually 1/2 the price of the warpspeed
11-12-2003, 09:32 AM
#21
Originally Posted by Jeff92se
Yeah, but how about the quality?? I guarantee you an aftermarket unit won't last 100,000 miles like the oem frequentely does
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