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Old Nov 17, 2003 | 09:59 PM
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i would say with practice you should be in the low 15s high 14s range. I ran a 9.687@75.93 which is about 15.1-15.2ish in the quarter. That was with chrome wheels, 15in solobaric, slippery Kumhos, 160K on odometer and i'm about 285lbs myself. Only thing i've done is a K&N cone, advanced timing, and an ACT clutch. Practice is what its gonna take not all cars launch the same. Tires and a good clutch make a big difference.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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Look at MikeI30's posts. He ran some great times for a 4-gen. But get this. His take rpm was like 3,000. I would say with all those mods, you should be mid-14s. Johnnymax ran a 14.6 with a CAI, Y, cat-back, JWT ecu and heavy cobra rims. BTW his vtcs were really bad. I think 14s is just a matter of practice and maybe a new clutch. Matt ran some good times with his slipping clutch though.

WE NEED SOME MORE VEs INTO THE 14S! hehe
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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Why are you going to the track with a slipping clutch?
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:35 PM
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he already explained why, and besides, its fun. You pay to play, and since he does his own labor, it really doesnt cost much for him to play. Besides not even snow could keep Matt from the track (ok, well snow might keep him from the track, but then he will be at the empty parking lots).


What I'm curious about is why would Slicks lower your trap speeds?
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:40 PM
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guessing it's due to the smaller diameter of the wheel. you'll go slightly faster riding on 15s than on 14s at a same engine rpm and gear. correct me if i'm wrong though.
Old Nov 17, 2003 | 11:45 PM
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Thats assuming the tires sidewall is the same size on both wheels, because the 14" wheel could have a taller sidewall making the tires outside diameter the same size regaurdless of the size of the wheel.

I see what your saying though, and having smaller wheels/tires effectively changes your gearing. Aaron92SE is running smaller wheels/tires and just about wet his pants with the lowend he gained

unless the car itself is running out of steam in the high end(which they dont), I dont understand it. maybe its just the nature of the tire (slicks)?
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 12:24 AM
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but like i posted up.. my 60' i am just spinning.. not getting tracion..my second shift was great and third was great, just it would slip when shifting. Then i am forced to put it in 4th, 4th is notorious for not being a pulling gear... but if i am going fast enough to put it in to 4th that would mean taht i am nearing 85 mph and 4th gear would be around 95+ that is before i reached the line...

i dont know about going to the track this friday, last time for the season.i have no brakes it basically metal on metal, an dmy clutch is very screwed up, i would put it in second and gun it and the reves would go up slightly and then catch.. sorta feels like a down sifting acc when it grabs to the next gear as i upshift.

mid 14's huh??? why do i get the feeling that its possible but yet my other friends say its not possible that i can run faster than a 4th or 5th gen... i have one friend toylet905 on the org that ran his best time of 14.8 on a stock 2k, and pcguru2k run 13.8 with a s/c 5th gen.
they laught to think that my max, a 3rd gen by that, can not run lower than 15, low 14's make them laught.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 02:19 AM
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what kind of power do you guys think you are pulling when doing mid 14's?
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 02:30 AM
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OK guys i am tired, i went through the threads and made up a speadsheet.. its all from scratch and took me about 1 1/2 hour.. i am tired here it is

have fun now i am gonna go to sleep

http://forums.maxima.org/attachment....achmentid=1322
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:14 AM
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lol, Nice Izzy, Nice


Maybe ask Matt B. to setup a program called "Driving and Drag Racing with Matt B." Besides I still think your faster than PcGuRu2k's maxima if you guys were to go racing oh say.... tommarrow
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:22 AM
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btw,
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/etc/...3rd%20gens.htm

There you go Izzy
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:38 AM
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I'm going to modify this sheet alittle to the best of my knowledge. IIRC Ryan (Flyry110) was running a CAI, and Aaron had a full WSP exhaust on for his 14.83
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:43 AM
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Originally Posted by crazy4maxima
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=2486937

anyways.. waiting for n34jz to chime in.. i wonder what he can run
sorry I was busy locating a lower control arm for my celica after your little accident

btw I went to LIM on sunday.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by N34JZ
sorry I was busy locating a lower control arm for my celica after your little accident

btw I went to LIM on sunday.
Have you found your LCA yet?
What year is it?

I do have LCAs avaialable
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 05:47 AM
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http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/etc/...20modified.htm I added some people too
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:11 AM
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If you're gonna stick my times on there, at least make them correct!
It's been 2 years since a 15.03 was my best time!
http://www.mattblehm.com/pics/car/timeslip.jpg
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:29 AM
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I think he was using the 15.03 because he knew what mods you have at the time.
You were using a shaved stock flywheel and ACT when you first broke 14's right?

Slipping LUK + Fidanza for the 14.737 right?
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 07:45 AM
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Actually, my first 14.9 run was with the same LuK (not slipping) and the lightened factory flywheel
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 08:02 AM
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I've updated the page abit more
granted now its becoming more of a whole 3rd gen member list instead of just quarter times.
http://mrgone.homeip.net/images/etc/...20modified.htm
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 08:49 AM
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actually Diego has an Assco flywheel , he didnt copy me when it came to that.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 09:00 AM
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You forget Johnnymax. He ran a mid 14 years ago
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 09:46 AM
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have more specs on Johnnymax?

and isnt the AASCO the same as the Fidanza? I'll change it eitherway.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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http://maxima.cardomain.com/id/jonny_max
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=182842

He's also like the 3-4th post down in here
http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?t=59388


BTW. Be ready with some serious dough come the 21st.

Originally Posted by MrGone
have more specs on Johnnymax?

and isnt the AASCO the same as the Fidanza? I'll change it eitherway.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:23 AM
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Thanks for the links


its JonnyMax btw

big 10-4 on the 21st ($).
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:33 AM
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I still found him

Plus you forgot Czar aka sam. He ran a 14.8 almost stock.

You keep forgetting the NW guys.

Originally Posted by MrGone
Thanks for the links


its JonnyMax btw

big 10-4 on the 21st ($).
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:37 AM
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lol, well whats Dirksmoothe's old times? I remember he was either a factory freak or just taking advantage of the NW's climate.

Czar was a 5spd right? I think Czar's left just as I joined the board
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:40 AM
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Czar is 5-sp.

Dookysmoothe's times? Uh, dunno. High 15s or something
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 12:50 PM
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I'll definitely hit the track in the spring just to see what I can do.

Shawn - You should add a set of fields for dyno numbers if they are present. It would be interesting to see how the measured power correlates to 1/4 mile times.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 01:06 PM
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ohhhh good idea Keelan, hmmm.

Where did Izzy go? I want him to see what his list has turned into
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by MrGone
ohhhh good idea Keelan, hmmm.

Where did Izzy go? I want him to see what his list has turned into

he mentioned something about going to the track when he called this morning, not sure if he went
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 02:54 PM
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Hey i am here.. damn well most of the numbers that i got off was from the 1/4 mile time thread.. Nice to see shawn helping me add people. I want to be as accurate in posting these numbers vs. mods at the time. I would like to see how 3rd gens are in their prime of their life. lets keep this spread sheet current..

thanks guys..

Oh and jay you know i wont go to the track with no brakes and no clutch
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by crazy4maxima
Hey i am here.. damn well most of the numbers that i got off was from the 1/4 mile time thread.. Nice to see shawn helping me add people. I want to be as accurate in posting these numbers vs. mods at the time. I would like to see how 3rd gens are in their prime of their life. lets keep this spread sheet current..

thanks guys..

Oh and jay you know i wont go to the track with no brakes and no clutch

actually I wasnt sure, mabey it was the cold medicine. lol. really though I want to go sundizay.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 03:29 PM
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actually I wasnt sure, mabey it was the cold medicine. lol. really though I want to go sundizay.
are you ok there buddy??? in your condition you might sleep at the line.... wed and fri are the last days in e-twon and fri at lim...


i dont know about island dragway
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:05 PM
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Man, there are a lot of rumors about me that I have to clear. It's almost as bad as the time the SoCal guys thought I removed my Apillars for the track for weight reduction. HAHA... that must be the reason I ran so fast.. that 5 lb loss.

Anyway... please refer to my website for a list of my mods. That is the reason I set it up. I don't have WSP catback. I only have WSP Y and testpipe with stock catback. My website even tells you the setup I use for the track.

Just today, I installed my PU motor mounts. BOY what a difference.

Just to throw this out there. I can make it to the 13s NA without a tranny or motor swap. I wish people start flaming me b/c that was my motivation for getting in the 14s.

This winter, I should be able to hit easy mid 14s. But I will be visiting a track I've never been to, so I dunno the condition of it too well. But if I have to, I will drive back to NC to get my 13s.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:21 PM
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LOL!
dude, come down here to HRP.. it's pretty quick... Ari will give you a run for your money in his beater SE-R.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 10:40 PM
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LOL!
dude, come down here to HRP.. it's pretty quick... Ari will give you a run for your money in his beater SE-R.
I'd have to guess that HRP is one tenth slower than the track I got my 14.80s at. But if it's below 200 feet and STICKY, then it's probably every bit as fast as Fayetteville, NC. ... which was STICKY!

In Carlsbad, CA, where I plan to race again next (5 hours away), it's 250 feet above sea level but it's a crappy track. So I assume I will run exactly one tenth slower than my Fayetteville times. So that puts me at 14.93. Then add all the stuff I've done to my car recently and I'm at 14.63 pretty easily.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:09 PM
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here's a neat read:
Houston is probably just the opposite of last weekend's race in Las Vegas. In Vegas, the air is marginal because of the altitude, but the track is tremendous. At Houston Raceway Park the air is usually outstanding but the track, at times, is marginal. That's an older surface and that has its challenges.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:16 PM
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Yeah the Vegas track is AWESOME. Those guys know how to prep a track. BUt it's 2010' elevation. Houston is MUCH lower. Sea level rules.

I'd have to say Fayetteville, NC is EVERY bit as good as Vegas... AND it's 130 feet elevation. So that is why I say it's one of the fastest tracks in the nation. But seeing what times you're able to pull in Houston, I don't think NC is that much greater than Houston. I can make it to Houston in about ... ummm... 20-25 hours. lol
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:21 PM
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LOL exactly!
I'm not sure the elevation, I'm trying to find out.. doesn't say on their website.. but it's not more than a couple hundred feet or so.
Old Nov 18, 2003 | 11:31 PM
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last time i checked, houston was about 40 feet above sea level...so pretty dang close i'm guessing baytown's elevation shouldn't be that different.



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