crazy4maxima

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Ok well I finally ran my ve for the first time. Here is the result. Conditions. Night time from 8-9:30pm. Stuck in traffic for 1 hour bumper to bumper but moving 15 mph, for 15 miles on the nj turnpike to the drag strip. Got no traction , and stock clutch was slipping badly as i redlined the gears to 6500rpms. and 4th gear suck for pulling but i was forced to shift to 4th before hitting the line at the end like 50 ft or so.

Water all over the track, all around the water box, forced to drive on the side where its was all dirty and wet

mods are listed in my sig. Yes i took out my subs, other than that i had a tool box, cd's, leather power seats, spare, jack, crappy tires.


First run was terrible. I got water on my tires via its all over the track. we both had wet tires and junk on tires, unaware until i lined up. Dumped the clutch at 5500rpms. 30 psi front. we both spun out crazy. Spun out at the line didnt go any where and redlined 1st to 35 mph, shifted quickly to 2nd and then rpms just dropped as i got traction, buckled at 35 mph and was off and got traction, udp reved quickly and my rpms just went up fast, shifted into 3rd and was catching up to the jeep. Readlined third i passsed him, shifted to 4th by the time i got to the line and beat him.
me left vs v8 jeep cheerokee
R/T .173 -.285
60' 2.922 2.922
330 7.730 7.436
1/8 11.308 11.259
mph 69.30 64.69
1000 14.330 14.521
1/4 16.854 17.298
mph 89.58 80.43


second run
honda crx(civic maybe) turbo hatch back old schoo with drag slicksl vs me with slipping clutch, 23 psi front, burned out. launched at 3k
R/T .492 .199
60' 1.693 2.396
330 4.635 6.670
1/8 6.996 10.115
MPH 104.29 71.46
1000 9.037 13.069
1/4 10.758 15.562
MPH 131.23 89.15


thirdrun
me burned out(shifting at 5500 rpms) vs dodge sr4 turbo (mishifting 3rd "quote un quote")
R/T .801 .688
60' 2.404 2.623
330 6.593 6.660
1/8 10.098 9.836
MPH 70.45 78.57
1000 13.081 12.608
1/4 15.598 15.059
MPH 89.26 92.53


last run
Acura RSX-s (mishifting 3rd "quote un quote")
vs Me(freaking agravated launched at 4000 rpms)
R/T .678 .805
60' 2.712 2.461
330 7.229 6.681
1/8 10.752 10.132
MPH 71.06 71.41
1000 13.667 13.083
1/4 16.150 15.592
MPH 90.69 89.44

I won 1st and last race. I think I fu(ked up my clutch even more today at the Rhode Island Meet here in the NE section after doing some highway runs. my clutch is gone, my rotors and pads are gone, metal on metal braking.

here is a pic of my weight at the track
With me including 1/4 tank of gas


With out me but still junk in the maxima 1/4 tank gas

crazy4maxima

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best MPH was 89.58 with the 60' 2.992 @16.854


best 1/4 was 15.562 60' 2.396 89.15mph trap speed

OK oi really was pushing for 15.7 because of my first time driving a 5spd at the track... but when i saw i was just spinning and not getting traction and getting these numbers i know i can get it to low 15's

Mods are

Pop charger, Fstb, WSP Y Pipe. HiFlow Cat, Greddy catback, ASP UDP, Stocking timing, crappy tires. Stock suspension, Stock slipping clutch and fly wheel.

Jeff92se

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Wow! That 2nd run was amazing!

internetautomar

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try to be more consistent on your reactions. Your first one was excellent (in my op)
and shifting at 5500 appears to be best for you.

crazy4maxima

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well out the starting line i was around 4500 5k mark when i dumped the clutch. no traction. then i would shift to 2nd 3rd and 4th at about 6500 nearing redline. execpt for one run where i did shifted at 5500 rpms. and i lost in the top end..

so redlined ing is key, and 4th gear sucks but i was goina bout 100+ by the time i hit the line!!

Nismo87SE

Fix your clutch before you race again. Also unless your trapping over 92-93mph there is no reason to shift into 4th gear. The VE's power doesn't drop off as bad as the VQ so there isn't a need to do a 3-4 shift unless your hitting the rev limiter. BTW it does appear that the srt4 did miss shift, just look at the 1/8mph. Pulling around 78mph in the 1/8 is like trapping 100-98mph in the 1/4.

Jeff92se

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That honda went 131.x mph and 10 sec??

Gjohnson

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Hey, your kinda husky aren't you?? How tall are you???























J/k

crazy4maxima

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5' 11 and 266 lbs plus junk listed
next time i am goin i am gutting extra weight, but sfter i get my clutch installed and fly wheel

yes i have the guys card of the 10.XX sec i think it was a crx

Gjohnson

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Man!!!! Do you know what engine work he had??? Turbo??

internetautomar

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Probably, turboed with motor swap
HEHE

crazy4maxima

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i listed it

second run
honda crx(civic maybe) turbo hatch back old schoo with drag slicks

crazy4maxima

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funny how my first run was faster... but next runs are slow even with burn out.. i think that is where my clutch was goin

ChrisCheezer

thats because u were granny shiffting not double clutchin like u should,... whatever the efF* that means

Jeff92se

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You should really put a smilie indicating a joke or something. Because if you were actually serious about the double clutching thing............

crazy4maxima

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thanks chris, if you saw my vid of my shifting that was posted up it was sorta like izzy3.mpeg vid

internetautomar

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alright stop watching the F&F all the time.
It aggravated the whole ricer thing IMHO

Gjohnson

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It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile

Gjohnson

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Anyone want to explain to me what granny shifing and double clutching is????? Haven't had a 5 speed in a couple of years. So, apparently I didn't get the memo.

Matt93SE

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wtf?! with those mods you should be low 14s! Sheesh!

I ran a 14.7 last week with only CAI, UDP, flywheel.. clutch slipping all the way through first and part of second!

sorry..

practice makes perfect! fix all that crap wrong with your car and you'll do better. you wouldn't believe how suspension helps keep the tires on the ground too.

Jeff92se

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Granny shifting = shifting easy to protect the tranny/clutch.

Double clutching = when you approach a turn, you step on the clutch to get it out of gear. Rev to match the rpm and then press the clutch again to get into the gear.

How Geezer related this to 1/4 racing???? x a billon

Matt93SE

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granny shifting = self-explanatory. grannies are slow.
double-clutching.... ricer talk for granny shifting.
double-clutching is actually where you press clutch.. neutral.. let off.. (lets tranny internals match engine speed).. clutch again, shift into next gear.

you should only ever have to double clutch when you're downshifting. double-clutching an upshift is stupid and pointless..... .unless you're granny shifting and you missed the mesh-point.

MrGone

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granny shifting = shifting like a granny. taking it easy on the syncros, etc.

double clutching = push in clutch, put tranny in Neutral, release clutch, rev engine to speed up tranny, push in clutch, put in gear, release clutch.

Just as long as you had fun Izzy, thats all that counts.

(real racers dont use the 3rd pedal )
(oh and Brian = )

Jeff92se

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Is there a damned echo in here?

MrGone

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Matt, I thought you had an ACT? its slipping?

Gjohnson

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Ok, ok I get it. I have been official schooled on how to double clutch.

Sorry, Crazy4maxima for highjacking your thread, on to the 1/4.

ChrisCheezer

i was heal toe shiffting in my friends MX-6 ..(stock) i alsmot understeared into a tree ... ahhh good times
..

crazy4maxima

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i guess your being very sarcastic in that post..

if i was to run low 14's with these mods then my friend N34JZ with the proper tires and no box should be able to run high 13's, dont give him that idea.. and D-sta should be running high 13's too since he has a factory freak.


i want to get out of the 15's.. 2 g's almost invested. but i know that my max will be slow forever.. but is mid 14's reasonabl

davebond007

How much gas did you have and do you have a working knock sensor?

For the next run you might want to try taking your super heavy power leather seats out and driving down there on 1/4 tank of gas (or just enough to get to the track) with a couple spare gas cans of 92/93 octane to get your way home.

crazy4maxima

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I had 1/4 of gas.


OKOK... dont get on me on this one.. time to find a midget to run my maxima, hopefully one of those horse jockey's, now i have to teach him how to drive a stick instead of flinging it at my max

Nismo87SE

There is one problem though you just need to replace/improve the drivers skill. Also if you really want mid-low 14s don't bother running street tires. Just by a set of slicks and swap tires at the track and bust some mid-low 14s. Assuming your KS is good and once the clutch is fixed the car should trap around 93-94mph instead of 89mph.

At the track matt's car was running 14.7-14.8s with 2.1 60'. Had he ran slicks and cut 1.9x 60' that would give him 14.3-14.6s all day long.

James92SE

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Dont slicks lower your trap a couple mph?

Matt93SE

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I had an ACT on my previous tranny. when I shattered its guts, I was busy at skool and didn't have time to fix it myself.. had it towed to a shop.. they installed reman tranny with a LuK clutch.
it's basically a stock replacement. I couldn't even chirp 2nd when it was in new condition. it slips under normal driving when it's really cold (like 10-15 deg) outside until the engine gets warmed up.

When I installed the Fidanza, I left the LuK in there because I didn't have the $$ to spend on a clutch when the one I had was still working decent.

I actually think the slipping clutch worked better for the 1/4 times by preventing wheelspin in 1st.. When I launched, I dumped the clutch at 3-4000 rpm and floored it. clutch slipped and the engine held steady at 6000rpm until the tranny caught up with the engine, then I'd bang 2nd at 6500rpm. it only slipped a bit when I stuffed 2nd gear, just enough to keep the tires from chirping. 3rd gear didn't slip at all.

For road racing (which I do more often than 1/4 racing and stoplights), I'd prefer the ACT.. but for 1/4 miles, I think this setup works very well in getting a good launch. I'm sure it's not good on the flywheel or clutch, but it gave me some consistently kickass 2.1 60' times!

crazy4maxima

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ok so you was serious.. so can i get to mids 14's.. i doubt i get into 13's unless i get alot of other stuff aaron ran 14.8's auto too...

Matt93SE

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Yup, I'm serious.
with those mods, you should be at least high 14s, if not mids or better.

what's the altitude there? can play a large role in it. I'm not far from the ocean.. dunno what the altitude is there, but HRP is a pretty fast track due to being pretty low altitude (and I'm sure a multitude of other things)

crazy4maxima

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i think its about anywhere from 70-100 feet above sealevel.. i did a search and found that the closest airport around there is about 87 feet above.

timebomb

wow, there was a meet in ri? Where was it?

crazy4maxima

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http://forums.maxima.org/showthread.php?p=2486937

it was posted in the ne section


anyways.. waiting for n34jz to chime in.. i wonder what he can run

Matt93SE

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woah.. that close to sea level, you should be running some darn good times!

timebomb

hmmm, ive never checked that section out...thanks dood.