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Old Sep 19, 2000 | 02:18 PM
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What will it take to beat a 96 z28 camaro. I have a friend with a 96 z28, and he wants to race. I know he will rape me. But i was wondering what it will take to beat him. Is it even possible on a moderate budget.
Old Sep 19, 2000 | 02:32 PM
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you've already got him beat...

Your car will last longer, will be more reliable, more comfortable, safer on the snow. It can haul 4 people comfortably with 4 sets of golf clubs. I know your sound system is better. Just give him a few months until the Camaro nickel and dimes him enough so he can buy something else- then race that.

Seriously though, the VG Maxima is not going to easily beat a Z28 Camaro. It can take the V6's (before they got the 3.8 200hp) You would have to put on the intake, Ypipe, and a good 75-100 hp shot of nitrous in order to do it. The turbo ideas going around on the list would also prove effective. But nevertheless, it would take serious mods to overtake one in acceleration.

[Edited by Bryan91SE on 09-19-2000 at 04:55 PM]
Old Sep 19, 2000 | 02:40 PM
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I can kick his *** on the twisty back roads here in colorado, but have never even tried to hang with him on the starights.
Old Sep 21, 2000 | 06:44 AM
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You could challenge him to a 4 passenger, 1/4 mile race with a 'Lemans' start.

In case you don't watch old historic stuff on Speedvision, A Lemans start places the drivers around 20-30 yards from their cars. When the flag drops, they must first run to their cars, get in, start it, and go. To make it interesting, I also suggest the additional 3 passengers.

You should be able to pile 4 people in your car and finish the drive before they finish loading the back of the Camaro. Of course, the Camaro may not evern start .
Old Sep 21, 2000 | 07:56 AM
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ROFLMAO!!

either that or just take several of your friends on a float trip or something.. Make them carry the ice chests full of beer. Since there is no trunk space in the camaro, the guys hunched over in the back seat (already bouncing their heads off the back glass) will have to put the ice chests on their lap.

Now for the fun part.. find the nastiest, bumpiest gravel/dirt/backroad you can find.. drive about 20 miles down that.
IF the Chevy even makes it through there, it's passengers will be wearing all the beer because it exploded from being shook up so much. they won't be able to get out of the car because their legs are numb fron the ice chests, and they all have concussions from the back glass.
Max wins.
Old Sep 21, 2000 | 09:40 AM
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Re: you've already got him beat...

Originally posted by Bryan91SE
Your car will last longer, will be more reliable, more comfortable, safer on the snow. It can haul 4 people comfortably with 4 sets of golf clubs. I know your sound system is better. Just give him a few months until the Camaro nickel and dimes him enough so he can buy something else- then race that.
[Edited by Bryan91SE on 09-19-2000 at 04:55 PM]
Typical response from an import owner. Lets look at ur 3rd gen. maxima and its reliablity:
Window regulators suck
Exhaust manifolds suck
CV joints weak
Electrical problems
Interior makes more noise than a baby rattle
valves tick on the VG and lets not forget the VTC on the VE's.

But seriously, the two cars were meant for two different things. Maxima = family oriented Camaro = sports oriented
If you want the best of both buy and M5.


Old Sep 21, 2000 | 10:08 AM
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Yes Funny....

Funny YES, MATT the story Rocked! I've seen that happen in a few hatchbacks in my lifetime However Brian very poor comparison. "Bad Form Sah"
reason I say that.... I Own Domestic and Foriegn.
It would be the same ignorant (unimformed) statement if I said my COBRA is better than my MAXIMA. I'm sorry, both have their good and bad points. When I want a nice smooth peacefull ride, I take the MAX. Yes it has ample power and looks Good, but it's intended use is a far cry form the COBRA. When I want a BEAST to drive I hop in the COBRA and rip tires all day.
BOTH are damn FUN. But as in FORM and FUNCTION the comparrison is weak. you could say that Each one brings out certain aspects of my personality.
MAXIMA: Cruisin, Stylish, Pleasant Ride, Plush
COBRA: Brute, Beast, Rash, Brawny, Rough Rider looking for a race
You got to have at least 2 cars in order to express yourself. Other wise you become narrowminded about Car stereotypes.
Just MY thoughtfull opinion
FLAME ON!
Old Sep 21, 2000 | 11:04 AM
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Take this, you bastard!!!!
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Well said, Mista Rose.

Now if I could only afford my boss's "small" collection of cars to express myself.
Hmmm, do I wanna drive the M3, M5, Carerra 2, Aston Martin, MG, Austin Mini, Corvair, Tasmin TVR, Land Rover, GNX, or Chevy 454SS.. what a tough life, eh?
Old Sep 21, 2000 | 11:48 AM
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beating Z28

if u wanna be serious about this i can almost guarantee that there isn't ANY 3rd gen maxima that can 0-60 beat camaro Z28. I think it runs almost 5.0 flat in 0-60 and ur 160 HP runs 8.8 auto 8.0 manual. If there is someone who has a 3rd gen maxima running this fast tell me what you got on it because I woudl sure as hell like to know! Also even if there is a 3rd gen that runs this^^ I can tell you it wasn't on a moderate budget!

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Old Sep 21, 2000 | 02:42 PM
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Typical response from an import owner. Lets look at ur 3rd gen. maxima and its reliablity:
Window regulators suck
Exhaust manifolds suck
CV joints weak
Electrical problems
Interior makes more noise than a baby rattle
valves tick on the VG and lets not forget the VTC on the VE's.

But seriously, the two cars were meant for two different things. Maxima = family oriented Camaro =
sports oriented
If you want the best of both buy and M5.



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What? my interior is very solid! it has been through a bunch of crap and 130,000 miles and not one rattle on it. way more solid than most other cars.
Old Sep 21, 2000 | 02:56 PM
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Re: Re: you've already got him beat...

Actually Nissan CV joints are tough, the rubber boots tear after 100k though.

Interiors? Ah my 92 maxima interior is better than 95% of all 1992 American whatever out there.

If that's the longest list you have for a 10 year old car, then that's pretty good.

You want to compare TSB and recalls for Maxima VS a Z28??

I could probably dig it up if you want.

Originally posted by LS1Fever
Originally posted by Bryan91SE
Your car will last longer, will be more reliable, more comfortable, safer on the snow. It can haul 4 people comfortably with 4 sets of golf clubs. I know your sound system is better. Just give him a few months until the Camaro nickel and dimes him enough so he can buy something else- then race that.
[Edited by Bryan91SE on 09-19-2000 at 04:55 PM]
Typical response from an import owner. Lets look at ur 3rd gen. maxima and its reliablity:
Window regulators suck
Exhaust manifolds suck
CV joints weak
Electrical problems
Interior makes more noise than a baby rattle
valves tick on the VG and lets not forget the VTC on the VE's.

But seriously, the two cars were meant for two different things. Maxima = family oriented Camaro = sports oriented
If you want the best of both buy and M5.


Old Sep 22, 2000 | 10:15 AM
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re: you've already got him beat

I've been on the list for coming up on 4 years and have never heard of half the problems you mention as inherant problems on the Maxima. I seldom hear any problems with valves, CV joints, interior rattles, or electrical problems. I think you're reaching a bit here.
Old Sep 22, 2000 | 11:07 AM
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Re: Re: you've already got him beat...

Sounds like a typical response from someone trying to defend GM. After 9 years my car still has the origional window regualtors on all 4 windows, never had a problem with CV joints, i have no interior rattles (even after two accidents). Electrical problems? well all alternators wear out. CV joints origionals still. oh and no valve tick. Before you decide to critisize find me a LS1 that has gone 250K miles + (i'll even let you use km 'cause they are shorter) with no major mechanical problems.

Oh and i wouldn't buy an M5 because BMW is about as relaible as a GM, but I'll take a MB CLK430 with the AMG E55 package.


Originally posted by LS1Fever


Typical response from an import owner. Lets look at ur 3rd gen. maxima and its reliablity:
Window regulators suck
Exhaust manifolds suck
CV joints weak
Electrical problems
Interior makes more noise than a baby rattle
valves tick on the VG and lets not forget the VTC on the VE's.

But seriously, the two cars were meant for two different things. Maxima = family oriented Camaro = sports oriented
If you want the best of both buy and M5.


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